[Reader-list] Need an address

[Punam Zutshi]

Could I please have the e mail address of Chander Nigam whose recent posting
( 26th, I think) I accidentally deleted...
Punam Zutshi

Below is proof I am a bonafide member


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To: <pz at vsnl.net>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:31 PM
Subject: Welcome to the "reader-list" mailing list


> Welcome to the reader-list at sarai.net mailing list! Welcome to the
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> The Reader List partly serves as a platform for online discussion on
> the themes that emerged in the Sarai Reader 01, and partly to create a
> lively community that discusses and debates key issues in new & old
> media  practice and theory and reflects on the experience of the
> everyday, as well as technology, culture and politics in city spaces.
> The Sarai Reader's concern with the theme of the Public Domain means
> that the list is especially open to reflections on what is the nature
> of a free public space in our cities, and in our various practices,
> and what it might come to mean. The people who often post on the list
> include social theorists, activists, filmmakers, telecommunications
> engineers, artists and software programmers.
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> LOCATING THE LIST The list is administered out of Sarai in Delhi, on a
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> You could say that the List is beginning to be truly reflective of the
> dispersed nature of internet culture, although we do need more people
> from places that are nearer (in geographic terms) and perhaps more
> distant (in virtual terms). It would be great to get postings from
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> LURKERS AND POSTERS As in all lists, (and especially new lists) the
> majority of subscribers are also lurkers, (everyone who has ever been
> on an online discussion has lurked for some time - there is nothing
> wrong with lurking as long as it does not last for ever). I am sure
> you would agree with me that over time one can even recognize
> personalities and quirks of regular posters, and that we look forward
> to our personal favourite correspondent who has been silent for some
> time. So do lurk, but only for a while, and we look forward to reading
> what you have to say.
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> DIRECTION(S)? We at Sarai who have been involved with the list on a
> day to day basis feel that future directions for and on the list
> should emerge from the community of subscribers. To this end, we
> propose that we spend some time discussing the list itself and how
> best to make it as lively and convivial as possible, how best to
> maintain a provocative edge so that there is always room for fresh and
> new perspectives, and how to ensure the broadest possible
> participation, so that the list does not become subject to anyone's
> private agenda, but a true digital commons, very much in the 'public
> domain', where everything that is relevant to cities, media and the
> flows of information, culture, knowledge and power can be discussed
> and talked about.
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> WHAT SHOULD THE LIST DISCUSS So far, there has been a tendency on the
> list to have a great deal of discussion on computer technology,
> (especially free software) the internet, online surveillance, privacy,
> even water. Even though these strands may look quite disparate,
> interestingly enough, a common binding principle has been reflecting
> on public access to resources. Some of these may have seemed to speak
> to and from specialists, but we are sure that most people got the
> gist/essence of the discussion, although we urge all posters that they
> try and make their postings sufficiently accessible to non-technical
> people. The habit of using metaphors and experiences from outside
> one's immediate discipline and experience is a good one, it connects
> people with 'idea bridges' and the more 'idea bridges' there are the
> more walking across can be done.
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> Anyway, what we do realize is that it is not necessary for these
> issues to dominate the list to the exclusion of all other issues. So
> please go ahead and post on things that seem relevant and important to
> you.
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> CONVERSATIONS Please be willing to enter into an argument, post
> something that is interesting, and take issue with each other, in a
> frank and civilised manner - we can then have a reasonable yet an
> interesting online culture of debate.
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> INTER DISCIPLINARY CONVERSATIONS This list is a platform for
> inter-disciplinary conversation, and that can happen if techies,
> artists, activists and the theorists who are on the list realize that
> they are not talking to people of their own kind alone.
>
> This list is as much about the last film that you saw that made you
> sit up and think, as much as it is about the last piece of code that
> challenged your humanity. It is also as much about the delight and the
> rage of living in a city, and it is especially looking for resonances
> between urban experiences located in different places.
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> The list needs to have a sustained take on other issues of
> significance, like the presence of media in urban spaces, the politics
> of information, spaces of autonomy and freedom in contemporary culture
> - the aesthetics, ethics and politics of representation - all of these
> are equally important to us, and we need to talk about all these as
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> GLOBAL/LOCAL What is also important is the ability of the list to have
> a sustained reflection on what goes on around us in the immediate
> vicinity of our lives. For example, there has been a reasonably active
> discussion thread on online surveillance and the politics of
> information which at times wove in the realities of many places, (esp.
> Delhi and Amsterdam) onto a complex map of what happens when
> information and power coalesce, but such discussions have tended to be
> limited to thoughts on the 'Digital Domain' alone.
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> This skews the list into a mirror of the activity that happens 'in
> other places' and a silent, mute bystander to what goes on close to
> our own offline realities. We all know how easily our sense of what
> constitutes our reality is defined by the mainstream media. How the
> filters that are locked into place by the big media also ensure that
> many things that concern us remain unexpressed, unknown and
> unarticulated. This is particularly true of the happenings and
> realities in South Asian cities. This list can then be seen as a space
> for the free encounters  for the ideas, reports and reflections that
> either slipped out of, or were suppressed by the 'big' (old & new)
> media.
>
> Over time, we can see a whole cluster of lists emerging around the
> Reader List, with sub-themes, and perhaps with invited moderations, or
> proposals for discussions on specific topics. All this can happen, and
> will depend on how much initiative and energy we all put into the
> list.
>
> WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE For starters, we have a few suggestions.
> These are not mandatory, but we would like you to give them due
> consideration, as a sketchy roadmap of where the list can go.
>
> 1. That people on the list write a paragraph about themselves and
> their interests and and send this to me (the list administrator). This
> will help us all get a sense of who we are, and allow many lurkers to
> have their say. I will prepare digests of these postings and put them
> back into the list.
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> 2. That topics and threads for discussion be proposed for discussion,
> within the broad ambit of the interconnections between old and new
> media practices, city spaces, info-politics and net criticism.
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> 3. That the list spends some time discussing itself, and what
> direction(s) it wants to take.
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> 3, That we try and ensure that as much material that reflects South
> Asian realities gets into the list as do news and views from
> elsewhere.
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> This is a long and perhaps unusual welcome note, but I hope that it
> provides something to chew (and then post) on. I would welcome any
> responses, and urge that they be made on the list itself, and I hope
> we can spark a thread of discussions on discussion itself.
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> Warm regards, and welcome again. For old threads, do check the
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