[Reader-list] Re: [arkitectindia] Tips for Writing Public Emails for ArkFoundationInternet Discussion Forum
Vedavati Jogi
vrjogi at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 4 19:14:42 IST 2005
hearty congratulations mr. ashok. you could dare to expose these
psedosecularists, they are more dangerous than terrorists. can secularism be
more imporatant than nationalism? i sincerely feel indian secularism is all
'bakwas'. these secularists will not mind selling off this country to
terrorists because latter happened to be the muslims.
i am a maharashtrian married to a kashmiri pandit who has become regugee in
his own country. as they are hindus nobody in interested in their welfare
because this act will tarnish their secular image. 'talking to pakistan'
'talking to terrorists' etc. etc. is secular because they are muslims. i
hate this pseudo secularism i hate these secularists.
vedavati ravindra jogi
>From: ASHOK ROW KAVI <arowkavi at vsnl.in>
>Reply-To: arkitectindia at yahoogroups.com
>To: arkitectindia at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [arkitectindia] Tips for Writing Public Emails for
>ArkFoundationInternet Discussion Forum
>Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:33:52 +0530
>
>Correct Meher,
>This whole lot is a set of cowards. For example, they will post anonymous
>postings abusing Hindus and then send you backdoor messages abusing you --
>still anonymous, mind you.
>This list is full of hypocrites and liars. It is not about community action
>or work at all. It is about abusing Hindus and must be kept on a watch
>list.
>But remember, the anonymous postings will not stop. They are such cowards.
>They attack the Hindus when their own communites are full of filth and
>hatred. The very Kalma excludes other religions and spiritual thoughts.
>But they will never face the facts. All Muslims are NOT terrorists, but
>every terrorist caught till now is a Muslim.
>The anonymous poster knows that and he is a coward. Therefore he will never
>give his name. It would be interesting to trace him but then he might be
>headed for the USA.
>If the intelligence bureau is monitoring this please get Left-n-right or
>the other way around. Who cares?
>He's a coward. if he iahs the guts let him enter this list using his real
>name. I'll expose his backdoor messages later on
>Ashok Row Kavi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: meher engineer
> To: arkitectindia at yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [arkitectindia] Tips for Writing Public Emails for
>ArkFoundationInternet Discussion Forum
>
>
> Dear Dr Ansari,
>
> I did not seek to enter this Forum; I think someone suggested my name to
>the people at JNU who run it. I have two points ro make
>
> i) I do not read all the stuff in the Discussion Group. But when I tried
>responding to a write up, by Farhat Naz (I think that is the correct name),
>about the difficulties faced by Muslim children in getting an education I
>was "electronically" told that I could not do so. I guess some registration
>is needed. Pl. guide me on how I can respond to what I read, when I want
>to.
>
> ii) As to the current row, If Ashok Row Kavi actually wrote "*******"
>without spelling the word out then he was being as silly as the people who
>introduced the phrase "expletive deleted" in the famous Watergate tapes of
>President Nixon. Abuse, however impolite, is something that happens all the
>time e.g., in the Maharashtra Assembly when the new, "Dance Girls" Bill was
>being discussed. But no moderator can allow it to overwhelm everything
>else. He has to be a bit like a Chairman at a turbulent meeting, but his
>job is easier because there are no spoken arguments in cyberspace. Perhaps
>he should warn people when he thinks they are stepping out of line, once or
>twice, and, if they persist just expe him from the Group. In a country
>where expulsion- of children from school - still happens, such an expulsion
>cannot be considered unpardonable.
>
> wirh reagrds,
>
> meher engineer.
>
> PS I hope this gets to you
>
> Ark Foundation <arkitect95 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Dear Members and Supporters of Ark,
>
> We use the Ark Internet Discussion Forum (Arkitectindia) as a media to
>transmit information about, and promote, Ark Foundation's activities as a
>Social Action Group, and share our thoughts and expertise about social
>development directly related to Ark's activities. It may help other social
>action groups in improving their programmes and in the same way we can
>improve our activities. I'm aware that for some of you, the Ark Discussion
>Forum is also a virtual location to hang around and feel part of something,
>which is great!
>
> Lately, there has been a high volume of emails discussing a broad
>range of subjects. While these topics - e.g. Islam, Hinduism, communalism,
>secularism, Marxism, terrorism, and general chit chat - are often
>interesting, it takes us away from our focus as a community-based
>development organisation.
>
> To remind you, Ark's focus areas are:
>
> 1. Primary Education
>
> 2. Health-Currently we are conducting workshops and
> awareness campaign on "Reproductive Health and
> Family Planning"
>
> 3. Women and Child Care
>
> 4. Environmental awareness
>
> 5. Promoting village development through agency of
> people (local folks/villagers themselves)
>
> 6. Creating and managing collective village resources
>
> The two key PROJECTS which fall into these categories are the
>development of Ark High School in Kataila village, Ghazipur district, Uttar
>Pradesh into a fully fledged primary and secondary school, and Reproductive
>Health workshops for rural women.
>
> TIPS:
> I thought these tips might help to keep our discussion board focused
>and helpful to our cause as a fledgling Social Action Group. Here are a few
>things that you might want to remember:
>
> · Discussion Forums:
> Discussion Forums are more prepared and thoughtfully presented than
>Internet chat rooms, and serve as a written record of our organisation's
>interactions. Discussions might contain a brief flurry of posts, or an
>extended dialogue that may take weeks or months to run its course, as has
>happened in the past.
>
> · Purpose of Ark Discussion Forum:
> To develop and improve the activities and voluntary efforts of Ark
>Foundation and members as well as to promote communication between staff,
>volunteers, members and supportive individuals. Within this guideline there
>are other potential uses, from sharing research and practice information
>and updates between Ark and other individuals and NGOs, recruiting
>volunteers, promoting a project, fundraising for an activity or project,
>reporting on recent workshops and activities, and hosting topical
>discussions on issues directly related to Ark Foundation activities. As
>such, emails are expected to be relevant, concise and professional.
>
> · Purpose of the Moderator:
> The Ark Discussion Forum Moderator has the ability to exert editorial
>control over the discussions by removing unwanted posts, adding or deleting
>users, or creating additional discussion topics, and generally facilitating
>the growth of the discussion forum.
>
> · Avoid Email Overload:
> People on mail lists are used to reading tons of emails a day. Without
>careful selection and good 'promotion' of your points, your email may not
>be posted or read. Things that may help get your message across and
>encourage stimulating debates are:
> - a simple yet effective email title/subject header
> - be clear why this issue relates to the organisation's
> goals and objectives on education and reproductive health etc.
>
> Thank you for reading this. I welcome any comments you may have, and I
>look forward to the continuation our Internet Discussion Forum. Please mail
>your comment and suggestion before August 15, 2005 so that we can include
>your ideas and experiences in moderating the e-forum (Arkitectindia) from
>August 16, 2005.
>
>
> We are open for comment, criticism and suggestion. Please be generous
>in criticizing us so that we can develop a proper understanding before
>starting moderatig the e-forum mails properly.
> Remember most of the active members of Ark are JNU students. It will
>be highly beneficial for individuls and social action groups working in
>different field. It is here we request the experienced and learned member
>of this e-forum to kindly comeforward to guide us for maximum utilisation
>of arkitectindia for the cause of sustainable development. I repeat, the
>last date to email your comment and criticism to run the e-forum properly
>is August 15, 2005. I hope the new intellectuals will get feedback
>accordingly.
>
> Kindly follow the link to know more about Ark Foundation:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arkitectindia/message/336
>
> Regards,
>
> Shaheen Ansari, Ph.D.
> Programme Coordinator
> Ark Foundation
> www.arkindia.org.in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arkitectindia/
> Phone: +919868740449,9868701491,9312838170
>
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