[Reader-list] Hosts in Vedavati's house

[Rahul Asthana]

Vedavati ji,
Akbar was more Indian than me;I am an NRI and will get
dual citizenship soon.Akbar was a third generation
Indian and lived his whole life in India.
pur, khair chhoren yeh sub.This is kind of stating the
obvious.
Ye batayen,Aap itni naraaz kyu hain?What is the real
reason for your anger?And please try to reply without
mentioning Shuddha or anyone else.Of course,your anger
is bigger than the reaction to any one persons
opinion.I ask sincerely.
regards
Rahul
--- yasir ~ <yasir.media at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dears
> 
> lets try another simple supposition based on real
> life.
> suppose my ancestors were kashmiri pandits.
> they may have been there forever, or they may have
> come from elsewhere,
> or a combination of such families.
> at some point the guests arrive.
> and to the utter horror of some of us, some people
> from my family take
> a liking to their religion. being muslim for being
> brahmin.
> these muslim brahmin pandits are no guests, by any
> standard of guests
> that does not equally apply to the brahmin pandits
> themselves.
> they may live separately now, they may be
> ostracised, but are they not
> still family.
> 
> y
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/7/07, S Fatima <sadiafwahidi at yahoo.co.in>
> wrote:
> > Dear Vedavati
> > I don't want to offend you, but your analogy
> sounds
> > too childish to be taken seriously (although I
> don't
> > mean to demean children by saying that!). The
> complex
> > history of south Asia cannot be trivialized like
> that.
> > Even if we could use this analogy, then, I think
> our
> > house has been so huge and so resourceful that it
> > didn't mind having a few guests from outside
> taking
> > refuge in it. And they didn't come as guests -
> they
> > came to do trade and business, just as your (and
> my)
> > brethren and sistren go to America to becomes
> NRIs.
> > Now, once these "outsiders" decided to call it
> their
> > home, they are no longer outsiders (whether they
> are
> > born here or came from outside). As a matter of
> fact,
> > how can even you prove that you are an "insider".
> Just
> > because you are a Hindu?
> >
> > Having said that, now let's talk about the guests
> > taking over the house and asking the owners to
> leave.
> > Yes, if they do so, it is wrong. (But remember, no
> one
> > can claim to be the "original" resident of this
> house
> > - its been too damn long to argue on that). So,
> you
> > have no authority to ask Shuddha or me to leave
> the
> > country if we do not subscribe to the hollow words
> > called Patriotism and Nationalism.
> >
> > I am not commenting on any specific case (such
> Sanjay
> > Kak's film, which I haven't seen). But in general,
> I
> > believe that the exodus of the pundits from
> Kashmir is
> > a sorry affair, and if one has to find a long-term
> > solution to the Kashmir problem, it must involve
> the
> > re-location of Kashmiri pundits safely in their
> > original homes. But at the same time, the
> brutality
> > suffered by the innocent Kashmiri Muslims at the
> hands
> > of Indian forces cannot be wished away. And if
> Kak's
> > film (or anyone else) does take sides, then it is
> > bound to lead to this kind of situation. Let us
> stop
> > taking sides and come to the middle ground if need
> to
> > resolve any of our conficts.
> >
> > S.Fatima
> >
> >
> > --- Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I will try to answer this question,
> > >
> > > Imagine a situation, 10 people, say your friends
> or
> > > distant relatives come to your house & start
> staying
> > > with you, they expect you to accomodate them
> > > permanently, they expect you to do everything
> for
> > > them, they try to do away with your
> wife's/mother's
> > > authority & establish their supremacy in the
> > > kitchen.
> > > And ultimately they ask you to leave your house
> &
> > > take refuge elsewhere.......... Can you afford
> to be
> > > liberal in this case? Will you not try to
> protect
> > > the rights of your wife/mother?
> > > Be honest & give me the reply!
> > >
> > > These guests are outsiders and you will
> definitely
> > > try to throw them out. In a way you are showing
> > > narrowmindedness but you can't do without that.
> > > Because that is not in your family's interest.
> > >
> > > Same thing is applicable to your nation.
> > > 'Nationalism means doing everything which is in
> the
> > > interest of your country' (e.g killing
> terrorists in
> > > Kashmir or flushing out Bangladeshi Muslims from
> > > Bengal or Assam.)
> > >
> > > Still if you say that 'you are neither a
> nationalist
> > > nor a patriot' then I am sorry to say so, but
> you
> > > have no right to stay in my country!
> > >
> > > Vedavati
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >       Do you get hundreds of mails everyday?
> Delete none. Go to
>
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