[Reader-list] How someone "well connected" got RIK screening Cancelled

rashneek kher rashneek at gmail.com
Mon Aug 27 15:49:13 IST 2007 

Dear Aman,

Please go through the following blog link (
http://kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com).  As you read various posts you will
yourself connect the sequence of events.For your convenience I am listing
events alongside their dates here.
1.Post on Agrasen Collge dtd Aug,19,07(Sunday)..the last line reads
*"Hope to see you this Friday ie 24th Aug at Kamla Nehru College at 2.30PM."
*
We obviously had permission thats why we wrote it.
2.Post on Screening being refused by College authorities..dtd
Aug,21,07(Tuesday)
3.Post by Nishant titled"Liberals or Hypocrites" wherein he very clearly
without mentioning names says
 *A few days later they revoke the permission assigning the cause as
non-availability of proper facilities. And now we get to know, in the same
time slot and on the same day another movie is being screened at the same
venue.*
4.Post on Saturday,ie 24th Aug,07.
wherein we wrote the post on which you have raised questions.

If it is a coincidence that Kak's movie replaced our screening on the same
slot,same time,same day..it is a great coincidence which through your
journalistic insights you can help us understand.
I have stated events as they happened.
If you still have reasons to disagree/not trust  I will go back to my Wali(
i hope you know who a wali is) Asadullah Ghalib ..who for such occassions
has said

Ya rub na woh samjhe the..na samjhenge meri baat
De aur dil to unko..jo na de mujhe zubaan aur

May God be with you

Rashneek



On 8/27/07, Aman Sethi <aman.am at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Kshmendra,
>
> I have no qualms with Rashneek, Nishant Dudha, or even you, writing
> what ever you please about what ever you please.  However, there is no
> way of verifying Rashneek's sequence of events - or to be more blunt -
> to verify if the author of the report is simply lying.
>
> Further, to then congratulate the said author for brilliant
> "investigative work" seems a trifle premature.  Further, to use a open
> medium like this list to cast aspersions on someone's motives -
> without once more, providing anything other than a series of
> conjectures- is irresponsible.
>
> Thank you suggesting a journalistic method by which to prove rashneek/
> nishant's reportage - however, the onus is not on me as a reader to
> verify the authenticity of a report.  The onus on reporter to convince
> me of the truth of his claim.  In this case Rashneek/ nishant have not
> succeeded in doing so.
>
> At present, the information put out by Rashneek sounds like a spoilt
> 10 year old complaining to his school teacher. Which could explain why
> it is so hard to take him seriously.
>
> I would urge you to read, write, and inform as many as you can,
> especially since you seem to be such an articulate and intelligent
> person.  However, as a professional "word howler" hyena" i would
> suggest that you do a spot of homework before you sit down at your
> computer. Otherwise we "scavenging hyenas" might be reduced to
> laughing hyenas.
>
> Best, as always,
> Aman
>
> On 8/26/07, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Aman
> >
> > For a "journalist" you are quite vague. Is that by design or is it a
> > compulsion arising out of your not having anything concrete to say?
> >
> > What is the "he said, she said" in Rashneek's 'report' (Nishant Dudha's
> > rather)?
> >
> > Rashneek seems to have narrated a sequence of events and stated
> questions
> > arising from them. What is it that you find objectionable?
> >
> > Rashneek is not a journalist (are you Rashneek?). He has spoken with
> passion
> > about his pain. Yet, he has managed to present rationally his
> experience.
> > "Rashneek's report"  did not even state his conclusion. He put it up as
> a
> > question to be answered "Is Indian intelligentsia Liberal or
> Hypocrite?".
> >
> > You Aman, since you have thrust your "journalist" tag in our faces
> should
> > have 'investigated' and presented your reporting of 'what exactly
> happened'.
> > If you did that and if you carried no preconcieved notions and biases,
> you
> > Aman would have ended up with a lot of "he saids" and "she saids". That
> > would be journalism.
> >
> > Aman your derision " It is indeed tragic that he expects to be taken
> > seriously" is nothing but the word-howl of a scavenging hyena.
> >
> >
> > Kshmendra Kaul
> >
> > AFTERTHOUGHT: Many "Journalists" are extremely uncomfortable with the
> > ability of individuals to express themselves and reach readerships
> without
> > having to go through the "As reported by XXX" journalistic route. It
> > threatens the arrogance of their presumed role of being the only ones
> who
> > should report/inform.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Aman Sethi <aman.am at gmail.com> wrote:
> > As as journalist, i have always had a, perhaps misplaced, suspicion of
> > blogmedia. While blogmedia and list-servs have done some fantastic
> > work, what is saddening is how texts based on a series of loosely
> > worded conjectures pass off as investigative work. Of course an even
> > mildly critical viewing of our news channels and news media will
> > reveal the same conjectures passed off as news - usually when it
> > concerns matters of national security, separatism, and of course,
> > jihad. So perhaps i should retract my previous statement.
> >
> > Rashneek's report seems to consist of little beyond a "he said, she
> > said." In fact, he admits to as much in his "pre-emptive" post. It
> > is indeed tragic that he expects to be taken seriously.
> >
> > It would be interesting to view Pawan Durani's list of financiers. It
> > would be even more interesting to know where he gets his lists from.
> >
> > Best
> > A.
> >
> > On 8/25/07, Pawan Durani wrote:
> > > Thank you Fatima ...though it was someting "in between " .
> > >
> > > Jebeesh , what more can you expect from amateurs who unlike Sanjay Kak
> ,
> > do
> > > not have backing of people like Yasin Maliks ....( I hope I am
> > > safe)......and financers whose name i am going to reveal in few days.
> > >
> > > Its Good to be liberal...but it is dangerous to ignore the facts
> > >
> > > Pawan Durani
> > > www.thekashmir.wordpress.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/25/07, S.Fatima wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to butt into this, but maybe calling the police
> > > > is a more innocent reaction than getting someone's
> > > > screening cancelled and being able to get one's own
> > > > film at the exact same time/date/space (IF this claim
> > > > is true, that is).
> > > > The rage seems to be on both sides.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Jeebesh Bagchi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 25-Aug-07, at 8:14 AM, rashneek kher wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > We
> > > > > > filed a complaint and since Sanjay Kak is breaking
> > > > > the law of the
> > > > > > land by
> > > > > > screening a movie which does not have necessary
> > > > > censor certificate,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > Police did the rest.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Did this move satisfy the rage in you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Can testimonies of suffering justify these kinds of
> > > > > invitation to
> > > > > policing of our intellectual lives?
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't taking recourse to punitive action an ally of
> > > > > our deep fear to
> > > > > live life with disagreements?
> > > > >
> > > > > If police is brought in to intervene, will there be
> > > > > people left to
> > > > > argue with and convince?
> > > > >
> > > > > best
> > > > > jeebesh
> > > > >
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