[Reader-list] reader-list Digest, Vol 48, Issue 23
Tapas Ray
tapasrayx at gmail.com
Mon Jul 23 23:50:30 IST 2007
I have been wondering myself. Whatever "MRSG" is, I must thank it for
giving me a role in this movie. Today it's that of a mere apologist for
Bin Laden's boys, i.e., some kind of lackey, but I am not discouraged.
This is only a stepping stone - maybe I can expect bigger roles in
future ... say, get to play Osama himself ;)
But one little thing bothers me: "the issue is not what Pratibha patil
has said". Huh? I thought it was a time to rejoice, because the secular
Left and the secular Congress have joined forces to make sure that we
don't have to look to the saffron crowd for obscurantism any more - it's
now ceremonially ensconced on Raisina Hill itself.
Shedding tears of joy for people's democratic obscurantism,
Tapas
S Fatima wrote:
> (and what is MRSG any way)
>
>
> --- MRSG <mrsg at vsnl.com> wrote:
>
>> Tapas Ray and similar apologists for Islamic
>> fundamentalists would like to trivialise the issue
>> by bringing the issue of Hindu women covering the
>> heads. Though that is not similar to wearing
>> criminal looking black burqua where you do not know
>> what is inside that, putting the cloth on the head
>> by the hindu women is equally bad. Secular Pratibha
>> Patil does that, Communal Sushma Swaraj or
>> Semi-communal Mamata Bannerjee do not. But how that
>> comes into this discussion. No one supported that.
>> Also the issue is not what Pratibha patil has said,
>> the issue is how the the support for islamic
>> fundamentalism is done through intellectual
>> discourse and now also how it is suported by their
>> apologists.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: ratnesh shukla
>> To: reader-list at sarai.net
>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] reader-list Digest, Vol
>> 48, Issue 23
>>
>>
>> It is beyond my comprehension how can one justify
>> a burqa covered woman feeling liberated.Burqa indeed
>> obstucts liberty of a woman's self expression.So far
>> as non-discriminatory nature of burqa is concerned
>> which abolishes class and other such identities I
>> hope Mr Y Sikand would be similarly supporting such
>> uniformities in other walks of life like housing ,
>> food etc.Life is an extremely diverse thing in every
>> field including clothing.Advocacy of uniformity in
>> any field is advocacy of fascism.
>>
>>
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>> 1. Kashmiri filmmaker Arun Kaul passes away
>> (Aditya Raj Kaul)
>> 2. Brouhaha Over the Veil (Yogi Sikand)
>> 3. Re: Brouhaha Over the Veil (MRSG)
>> 4. Re: Brouhaha Over the Veil (Ateya
>> Khorakiwala)
>> 5. Re: Brouhaha Over the Veil (Vedavati Jogi)
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>> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:20:52 +0530
>> From: "Aditya Raj Kaul"
>> <adityarajkaul at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Reader-list] Kashmiri filmmaker Arun
>> Kaul passes away
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>> *Kashmiri filmmaker Arun Kaul passes away*
>>
>> New Delhi, July 21 (PTI): Noted Kashmiri
>> filmmaker and screenplay writer
>> Arun Kaul died here today after a prolonged
>> illness.
>>
>> Kaul, 74, is survived by his wife and two sons.
>> He breathed his last at the
>> All India Institute of Medical Sciences this
>> morning after being
>> hospitalised for nearly a month.
>>
>> Kaul, who was running "Vyeth" (Kashmir name of
>> river Jehlum) Television,
>> shot into fame when his film "Diksha" won the
>> best film award for the year
>> 1992.
>>
>> He has been a screenplay assistant of veteran
>> film maker Gulzar for the
>> films 'Lekin' and 'Ijaazat' besides having
>> written the screenplay for the
>> film star-studed "Chandni" of Yash Chopra.
>>
>> He has also produced a film named "Ek Adhuri
>> Kahani" directed by Mrinal Sen.
>>
>>
>> His television documentary "Dharma Kshetra" won
>> the NFDC Award in 1986.
>>
>> In mid 1990s, his production house, Vyeth
>> Television, started "Kashmir File"
>> on Doordarshan in which the excesses committed
>> by militants were
>> highlighted.
>>
>> The programme was closed after its anchor
>> reporter, Saiuddin Shafi, was
>> gunned down by militants in broad daylight for
>> raising voice against the
>> terrorists.
>>
>>
>> *--
>> Aditya Raj Kaul
>> Blog: www.kauladityaraj.blogspot.com
>> Website: www.adityarajkaul.tk*
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>> From: "Yogi Sikand" < ysikand at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Reader-list] Brouhaha Over the Veil
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>> Brouhaha Over the Veil
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>> Yoginder Sikand
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>> The controversy surrounding recently-nominated
>> President Pratibha
>> Patil's hotly contested statement on Muslims and
>> the veil clearly
>> illustrates how Muslim women's dress has become
>> a central trope in
>> contemporary discourses about Islam. Critics see
>> the veil as
>> 'obscurantist' and 'patriarchal', while its
>> defenders regard it as
>> protecting women from the oppressive male gaze.
>> In this brouhaha over
>> the veil, the fact that there is no single
>> definition of it, that it
>> has different meanings for different people and
>> that what is
>> considered to be normative Islamic women's
>> attire varies across
>> different Muslim ethnic groups and social
>> classes is completely lost
>> sight of. Further, the important distinctions
>> between the veil, the
>> burqa, the naqab and the hijab, all different
>> forms of Muslim women's
>> dress, are overlooked.
>>
>>
>>
>> Interestingly, the Quran does not lay down any
>> particular form of
>> clothing for men or indeed for women. It does
>> not require Muslim women
>> to cover their faces completely and remain
>> confined at home, this
>> being a custom that Muslims later took over from
>> the Byzantine
>> Christians. Instead, it talks about the need for
>> both men and women to
>> dress modestly. Modest appearance means that
>> erogenous
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