[Reader-list] Modi A Psychic Killer, Worse Than Hitler, says Father of Slain Gujarat BJP Home Minister

Partha Dasgupta parthaekka at gmail.com
Tue Nov 6 11:51:15 IST 2007


Hi,

I think the issue that we're looking at here is that when those who are
supposed to enforce the law are engaged in taking shortcuts for personal
agenda's it sets a dangerous precedent that needs to be stopped.

Whether the Modi genocide or the police killings in false encounters or the
blinkered view of the deaths caused by the Blue Lines or the Rizwanur Rahman
case, what we need to look at is how to ensure that ministers, policemen and
sundry VIPs do not transgress the constitution out of whim - and that they
are punished when they do.

We all are aware of how the Nanda case has been pushed to the sideline and
out of public memory so that he gets away free.

The power is in people who speak in a collective voice and ask for answers.
Not in bickering on semantics or bits of a section spoken by an anguished
father. Instead look at what is causing that father his anguish.

Rgds, Partha
.........................................

On 11/5/07, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The power I mean, the power in the words thats come out of a brahmin.
>
>   TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com> wrote:
>   Maya Vati has not lost her faith in Brahmans. I don't think brahmans as
> brahmans are of any use to anyone else but her.
> Tara Prakash Tripathi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "we wi"
> To: "Yogi Sikand" ;
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Modi A Psychic Killer, Worse Than Hitler,says
> Father of Slain Gujarat BJP Home Minister
>
>
> > Dear Yogi and readers,
> >
> > What an interview, but about these lines
> >
> > >>>But I know in my heart that God will not let him go unpunished. He
> > will die a dog's
> > >>>death. These are the words of a Brahmin.
> >
> > Hope the so called HINDU system and people should answer
> >
> > 1) Is this a MYTH or reality???
> > 2) Do the brahmins have that much power Still???
> > 3) People living throughout INDIA still have the same belief in these
> > words and trust in
> > brahmins?
> >
> > If YES thats great,
> > if NO then why do people lost that faith in BRAHMINS(even vishnu do have
> > faith n fear)???
> > DO THE BRAHMINS(All over India) LOST THE FAITH IN THEMSELVES or do they
> > competing with rest of people whoever doing whatever with the evolving
> > time???
> >
> > If I quote from this link (vasudeva/krishna/VISHNU )
> > http://www.hinduism.co.za/vishnu.htm
> >
> >
> > brahmanyo brahmakrit brahmaa brahma brahmavivardhanah
> > brahmavid braahmano brahmee brahmagno braahmanapriyah.
> >
> > 661 brahmanyah 666 brahma-vid 662 brahmakrit 667
> > braahmanah 663 brahmaa 668 brahmee 664 brahma 669
> > brahma-gnah 665 brahma-vivardhanah 670 braahmana-priyah
> >
> > He that is the foremost object of silent recitation, of sacrifice, of
> > the Vedas, and of all religious acts
> > He that is the Creator of penances and the like
> > He that is the form of (the grandsire) Brahma
> > The Biggest, the Vastest, the All-pervading
> > He that is the augmentor of penances
> > He that is conversant with Brahma
> > He that is the form of Brahmana (Brahmin)
> > 668. He that has for His limbs Him that is called Brahma
> > He that knows all the Vedas and everything in the universe
> > He that is always fond of Brahmanas (Brahmins) and of whom the Brahmanas
> > (Brahmins) also are fond
> > Regards,
> > Dhatri.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yogi Sikand wrote:
> > *Modi A Psychic Killer, Worse Than Hitler, Should Be Jailed, says Father
> > of
> > Slain Gujarat BJP Home Minister *
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Interview of Vithalbhai Pandya by Yoginder Sikand*
> >
> >
> > *Q:* What do you feel about the recent judgment by the POTA court in the
> > Haren Pandya murder case?
> >
> > *A:* I firmly believe that my son Haren Pandya was killed at Modi's
> behest
> > through D.G. Vanjara, head of Gujarat's Anti-Terrorist Squad and Modi's
> > blue-eyed boy. This was because Haren was a transparent and efficient
> man,
> > whom Modi thought of as a threat to his power. Haren was opposed to the
> > worship of any individual, and so became a thorn in Modi's flesh. He was
> > the
> > only BJP MLA in Gujarat who did not act according to Modi's will. When
> the
> > train coach was set alight in Godhra, Haren told Modi to confine the
> > incident to Godhra itself and not to spread violence in the rest of
> > Gujarat,
> > as that would tear apart the fabric of our society and cause irreparable
> > economic, besides human, destruction. But, yet, Modi went ahead, and
> > organized a meeting in Sabarkantha where he plotted the genocide of
> > Muslims
> > throughout the state. These were state-sponsored massacres. I am saying
> > this
> > in the capacity of the father of the then Gujarat Home Minister, because
> I
> > knew this from Haren himself.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have leveled specific charges against Modi but the CBI did not
> > interrogate him. Under stiff pressure from Modi and his mentor, Lal
> > Krishen
> > Advani, then Deputy Prime Minister and Home Minister of India, the CBI
> did
> > not conduct a proper probe. Modi, Advani and Vanjara are all criminals.
> It
> > is the height of tragedy that the criminals I have pointed to have not
> > been
> > interrogated and punished and key witnesses have not been called to
> court.
> > Advani and Modi must be arrested and sentenced for their anti-national
> > activities, for spreading communal hatred and violence and thereby
> tearing
> > apart our country and destroying its unity and integrity.
> >
> >
> >
> > From the very beginning I have been arguing that Modi was not killed in
> > his
> > Maruti car outside the Law Gardens in Ahmedabad, contrary to what the
> CBI
> > claims in order to pass the blame on to the arrested Muslim youth. A
> team
> > of
> > top forensic scientists who studied the matter also concurred with me on
> > this. No blood drops were found in the car, nor was there any residue of
> > the
> > bullets. Haren was shot at in the scrotum and the bullet traveled
> > vertically
> > from there, which would not have been possible if he had been shot at in
> > the
> > car. Since the data in the form of investigation is wrong, how can the
> > judgment be right? The court did not consider the opinion of the
> forensic
> > experts due to political interference in the case. I demanded that Modi
> be
> > first removed from the post of Chief Minister of Gujarat and then let
> the
> > CBI conduct its probe if it is to be fair and impartial, but, sadly,
> this
> > did not happen, for obvious political reasons.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* Have you appealed in the court to present your case?
> >
> > *A:* I applied to the court to file my appeal. I wanted to appear as a
> > party
> > in person but I did not get any reply from the court. I then wrote to
> the
> > Supreme Court, but from there, too, I got no response. I also appealed
> to
> > the President of India, the Prime Minister, the Chief Justice and
> leaders
> > of
> > various political parties to take up the case, but no one showed any
> > sincere
> > interest. I sent letters to BJP and RSS letters, but they, too, did not
> > reply, despite the fact that my son was a top BJP leader, the Home
> > Minister
> > of Gujarat.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* What, then, do you think of the RSS and the BJP?
> >
> > *A:* The BJP is today not a genuine political party at all. It is a gang
> > of
> > a few sophisticated ruffians. These people are hungry for money and
> power.
> > Their speech and their actions do not match. They want to spread
> communal
> > hatred in the name of Hinduism and thereby climb to power. According to
> > the
> > noted scholar Ashish Nandy, Modi shows all signs of being a psychopathic
> > dictator. He, Advani and their likes have worked against the unity and
> > integrity of this great nation. For their anti-national and
> > anti-Constitutional crimes they must be arrested and jailed.
> >
> >
> >
> > People are losing faith in the RSS. Modi has created a vertical split in
> > the
> > RSS, and many RSS leaders tell me that they dislike him. He has also put
> > aside the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), and is, instead, patronizing a
> > bunch
> > of *sadhu*s who constantly flatter him. Ambitious, selfish people have
> > taken
> > control of the RSS and the VHP. Look at Modi's ministryâ€"it contains so
> > many
> > criminals and ruffians. Modi's government in Gujarat is being run on
> > *jhoot*(lies),
> > *julm* (oppression) and *jasusi* (spying). Modi has his spies in every
> > office. And Gujarat is now engulfed in crime, in riots.
> >
> >
> >
> > RSS and VHP leaders have amassed vast amounts of money in the name of
> > destroying the Babri Masjid and building a temple in Ayodhya. Some time
> > ago,
> > Gauri Advani, Lal Krishen Advani's daughter-in-law came out with a
> > statement
> > that Advani was not a true Hindu, that he was misusing the name of Rama.
> > Such is the state of the BJP.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* So, do you feel that the Muslims arrested and sentenced in the
> Haren
> > Pandya case are actually innocent?
> >
> > *A:* I am concerned with the actual motivator of the murder, who, I say,
> > is
> > Narendra Modi. The Muslims who were arrested are poor and illiterate,
> and
> > such people can be used. Modi is worse than Hitler. He will use all
> means
> > to
> > protect himself, including threats and enticements.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* But what about the Muslims arrested? Do you think they are innocent
> > and
> > have been wrongly framed?
> >
> > *A:* Maybe they are innocent. This is something that should be properly
> > investigated. How can I cite my own opinion? I am in touch with the
> > families
> > of these Muslim men. They respect me greatly. They have told me that
> their
> > sons were not at all involved in Haren's murder. It may be that the CBI
> > has
> > fabricated the whole story about these Muslims in order to save Modi.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* So, are you saying that you think that these Muslims were not
> > involved
> > in the killing?
> >
> > *A:* They were not involved. They did not kill Haren. They had no role
> in
> > his murder. But, still, this is a matter for the court, so what can I
> say?
> > The court should have been impartial but it was not. Key witnesses, such
> > as
> > myself and Haren's secretary, have not been examined. I believe Vanjara
> > arranged for Haren's murder to please Modi in order to get a promotion,
> > and
> > the story of these innocent Muslims being involved was concocted in
> order
> > to
> > further fan Hindu emotions while getting rid of a major rival to Modi.
> One
> > man, Mufti Sufiyan, who was under constant police vigil, was allowed to
> > cross over to Pakistan so that witnesses could be made hostile and Modi
> > could escape conviction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Further, efforts were made to destroy all possible evidence. All the
> > telephone numbers on Haren's mobile phone of calls made on the 25th
> > and 26thof March, that is the day before and the day of his murder,
> > were later
> > deleted. The Hutch company may have been bribed or led astray or put
> under
> > pressure to do so. Had the numbers not been deleted, it could easily
> have
> > been ascertained who it was who had called him the morning he was
> > murdered,
> > because it was after getting this call that he left home in haste,
> shortly
> > after which he was killed. Obviously, that person must have been very
> > familiar to him, otherwise he would not have rushed out like that. And
> > then
> > when he reached the place which he must have mentioned to this caller,
> he
> > must have been surrounded by the killers, who pushed him on the ground,
> > because of which some gravel got lodged in his knees. They must have
> shot
> > him there, then put him in his car and taken it and his corpse to the
> Law
> > Gardens. The fact of the gravel in his knees clearly indicates that he
> was
> > not shot inside the car, but that he was killed elsewhere.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have clear-cut evidence to prove that Modi was responsible for Haren's
> > murder. It is as good as a dying declaration. Some two or three months
> > before Haren's murder, Modi asked the President of the Gujarat unit of
> the
> > BJP to issue Haren a show-cause notice, because he felt that Haren was
> > emerging as a powerful challenge to him. Haren said that he feared that
> he
> > might fall a victim to Modi's ego, vendetta and revenge. Haren did not
> > follow Modi's whims, and so Modi arranged for this show-cause notice to
> be
> > issued. The President of the BJP state unit had to do as Modi had told
> > him,
> > although he held Haren in great respect, and was literally in tears when
> > he
> > informed Haren about the notice.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 24th March, two days before he was killed, Haren, referring to Modi,
> > told
> > me, 'Take it from me, this Ghanchi (oil-presser, the caste to which Modi
> > belongs) may be rusticated from Gujarat within 15 days, by around the
> > 10thof April, otherwise I am not a Brahmin.' And that matter leaked
> > out. Haren
> > may have told the same thing to someone else, who might have informed
> > Modi,
> > and then became the apple of Modi's eye.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* And who is that person?
> >
> > *A:* Oh, let that person go to hell. As I said, Haren might have told
> some
> > friends of his the same thing that he told me. It may have been a very
> big
> > builder in Ahmedabad, who might have told this to Advani, and maybe Modi
> > came to know of this through him. That is why Modi might have conspired
> to
> > have him killed. Haren wanted to drive Modi out of Gujarat using
> > constitutional means. He disliked Modi's attitude, his arrogance and his
> > unconstitutional deeds.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* What do you feel about the burning of the coach of the Sabarmati
> > Express at Godhra, which was then used by Modi to engineer a genocide of
> > Muslims across Gujarat?
> >
> > *A:* I think it was a pre-planned strategy of Modi to use the Hindutva
> > card
> > to keep himself in power at any cost.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* So, are you saying that you think that the train was set alight on
> > Modi's instructions?
> >
> > A: Yes.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* Not by some Muslims in Godhra?
> >
> > *A:* No, no, no.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* So are you saying that you believe that Modi was involved in the
> > burning of the coach?
> >
> > *A:* Definitely.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* Did Haren Pandya tell you that?
> >
> > *A:* He told me that Modi would certainly do something (*Modi zaroor
> kuch
> > na
> > kuch karega*).
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* But did he explicitly tell you that Modi had planned the burning of
> > the
> > coach?
> >
> > *A:* No, he did not tell me this. But I believe that the Muslims of
> Godhra
> > were not responsible for the burning of the coach. The *karesevak*s
> > returning from Ayodhya in the train were absolutely frenzied and then
> this
> > happened.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* But do you mean to say that you think the coach was burnt at Modi's
> > instigation?
> >
> > *A:* Definitely. Definitely. Definitely.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* Since you believe that the Gujarat High Court's judgmnent is wrong,
> > have you demanded a reinvestigation into the Haren Pandya murder case?
> >
> > *A:* Yes, yes. I have sent numerous letters to leaders of the country
> > demanding a reinvestigation. I wrote to the President of India, the
> Chief
> > Justice and also delivered a letter to Sonia Gandhi in person. However,
> I
> > have got no response at all. Maybe there is some pressure not to go
> ahead
> > with the reinvestigation. I've been moving heaven and earth to get at
> the
> > truth but as long as Modi and Advani are not punished justice will elude
> > me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Q:* What do you feel about Modi's chances of winning in the coming
> > elections in Gujarat?
> >
> > *A:* He is feeding the people with sleeping pills, fanning communal
> > hatred.
> > But this time I don't think he will be elected. Who knows, prior to that
> > he
> > might be behind bars? I wish I could file a suit against him to
> disqualify
> > him, but I am an ordinary middle-class man and cannot afford the
> > exorbitant
> > cost that this would entail. And then, only a lawyer who will not
> succumb
> > to
> > Modi's tacticsâ€"bribes and intimdationâ€"can take him on.
> >
> >
> >
> > But I will continue my struggle against Modi. It is not a struggle for
> my
> > son, but for Gujarat, for justice and democracy, for humanity, for the
> > victims of those thousands of innocent Muslims who Modi arranged to have
> > massacred. I am 80 years-old, and now at the fag end of my life. I am
> > doing
> > what I can to see that Modi and Advani and their likes are brought to
> > justice. I send off letters to various leaders demanding justice. I
> cannot
> > even remember the number of these letters. I have yet to get any
> positive
> > response, even from the Congress. But still I shall continue to raise my
> > voice. Otherwise, what is the use of living? I don't want to live like
> an
> > inert corpse.
> >
> >
> >
> > Modi behaves like the monarch of all he surveys. But I know in my heart
> > that
> > God will not let him go unpunished. He will die a dog's death. These are
> > the words of a Brahmin.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sukhia Sab Sansar Khaye Aur Soye
> > Dukhia Das Kabir Jagey Aur Roye
> >
> > The world is 'happy', eating and sleeping
> > The forlorn Kabir Das is awake and weeping
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