[Reader-list] Conclusion

Sat Nov 10 20:15:51 IST 2007

Dear Partha,

On Dalits,

 In the name of reservations this that there is much happening.

On the contrary let me write about GAUTAMA BUDDA TURNED INTO BODHISAVTA.
There are 4 reasons that GAUTAMA/SIDHARTHA to give up social life at NIGHT like a thief or roberrer.
By that time he was survived with WIFE AND CHILD along with parents.  

  He is so weak in such a way that, having been watched the sorrows of life and bothered to wipe them out of EVERYBODY LIFE. By the time he was survived with a wife and a child beside from parents. But did he really think about them? what happen if he become a yogi or took sanyaas? Who will take care about them and their responsibility?? But He left everything in NIGHT(Sleeping time) became BODHISATTVA and Invented Buddism.  Later KINGS followed and spread it.  Followers spread it with modifications in present form whatever.

BODHISATVA never thought about family?  Do I say like this?  

Brahmin class never be considered as Aryans.  

The greatest mountain in India always was Maha Meru , which literally touches  the sky. The Sun and Moon were supposed to go round that mountain. The Vindhya  ranges which are in the middle of India got very jealous of this state of  affairs and started growing taller and taller. A stage came when the Sun and the  moon were not able to travel to the South. So Indra requested Agasthya to do  some thing about it. It was at this time that Lord Shiva decided to marry  Goddess Parvathi. People all over the world started traveling to Himalayas to  attend Lord Shivas marriage. Due to this earth started tilting north wards. God  Shiva had to stop this so he requested Sage Agasthya (whom he thought as equal  to all people on earth) to travel towards the south, so that the great penance  he did will balance the earth. Unwillingly Sage Agasthya traveled to south. On  his way he was forced to cross the Vindhya mountain which was extremely tall.  Sage Agasthya requested the Vindhya
 Mountain to become tiny so that he can  easily cross it. The Vindhyas acceded to the request of sage Agasthya. Sage  Agasthya requested the mountain to be tiny till he came back to North. The  mountain agreed to this also. But sage Agasthya settled in south of India and  never went back.

Like that settlers and traversaries happened  east to west and south to north.

Regards,
Dhatri.

Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote: Dear Dhatri,

 Atleast get the logic / argument straight instead of posting such junk.

 1.   We all have seen the ugly face of caste with the treatment of Dalit's which exists to date.

 2.   Buddhism is a separate religion by a Hindu ruler who was sickened by the killing
       (and I do not see any cries of being marginalised)

 3.   If all invaders have to go, so do Aryans (including the entire Brahmin class) and leave
       India to the Dravid's who are the initial know inhabitants.

 Rgds, Partha
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 On 11/10/07, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:  Dear All,    

    What I observe is that the debates are going about culture,religion,caste and history here in fallacious way.  Buddism will never be considered a separate religion and the ideologist GAUTAMA/SIDHARTHA himself hails from KSHATRIYA CASTE.  MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIAN created a false IMAGE about the CASTE system, to spread their own religion with all witch  crafts.Using CASTE system of HINDUISM in their favor is just another technique. Similarly Christians.  

     Scholar Sri ADI SHANKARACHARYA(REINCARNATION OF SHIV) reconstructed HINDUISM from its dis-integration stage.  

 Since Hindu system is an old and Hindu system has flaws (as per accusations),  many religions generated/encouraged/transported and people joined into them and following them SINCERELY.  Do they really??? Definitely no. people joined in new religions and feeling/thinking/following the same age old tradition and ideology. Why??? 

   Lets say UPPER CASTES in the HINDU religion USED POWER PLAY but they never tuned the society into ATHEIST WAY(DON'T HAVE BELIEF IN EVERYTHING). But now UNDER Christians,Muslims,LOWER castes RULING, isn't it more worsen ? These common idealistic,secular,democratic people or rulers following any different ruling system for better life that they or anybody enjoyed in UPPER-CASTE RULE.  The society we are living becoming FEELING-LESS for EVERYTHING.   

 If SARAI is partial recent days by not publishing all subscribers views, and SARAI is encouraging non-democratic,non-Indian,non-Hindu Ideology for whatever reasons.  
 Being citizens of INDIA,residents of JAMMU AND KASHMIR and threatened silent viewers of ransacking(PAST OR PRESENT), whats wrong if Pawan durani and Rashneek kher,... write here about the situations PAST OR PRESENT.    

 For talking or writing about INDIA and its cultural,traditional roots the depth I quoted on several mails is insufficient and for that subscribers expressed their impatience and shown greater solutions in the name of different feelings and technology for their OWN REASONS.  How can INVADERS HISTORY AND THEIR 4000 year old odd altered/duped occurrences/incidents/theories can stand for all criticisms/arguments/logic's.  

 Regards,
 Dhatri.

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