[Reader-list] ragpicking or recycling: from squattercity

[Rob van Kranenburg]

Hi Jeebesh,

>> fairly accurate. not sure about the percentage though.

I should have made more clear that i'm just citing Robert Neuwirth,  
forgot the " ".
>

> But the bigger question one can ask is do we need formal (mostly
> centralized) systems of garbage and sewage collection and disposal?
> or maybe if the thinking shifts to the "informal" as an site of
> opportunity to think with other modes of doing things, we may be
> looking at the situation differently.

I completely agree, and would very much like to think about local  
manufacturing with
http://reprap.org/bin/view/Main/WebHome
and recycling with
http://metareciclagem.org/drupal/livro/english

as indeed

> All attentive, centralised infrastructures will not work any more in
> many many places in the world. It's days have passed. Better to think
> with what is available than live in a perpetually deferred zone of
> thinking.

these centralized systems will start crumbling in the west soon and  
to then give away your main assets which are everyday personal  
negociations with insecurity,  unsafety and decision making, would  
make no sense,

Greetings, Rob