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[Shuddhabrata Sengupta]

Dear Vishal-ji,

Excellent ! I am glad that you have seen shining light. I have also seen 
the shining light. Pure breeze of wisdom is now blowing on this list 
after nightmare of last few days. With vigilant right minded 
intellectuals like Dhatri-ji in our midst, to protect us with Santan 
Dharma and intellectual property, we are at last in safe hands. Here at 
last is an intellectual who is serious about his property.

But there is a problem. Which I am adding to the problem already 
mentioned by you, Vishalji, in the form and shape of Roman Numerals.

You must know 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9 are also referred to as Arabic 
Numerals. And this is a real serious problem. Now we must do something 
about these evil arabic numbers. After you have pointed out the danger 
posed to us by Roman numerals, I have become very vigilant about arabic 
numerals also. I smell a Vatican-Jihadist conspiracy to decimate us. Oh, 
davati-deva, even the decimals are a Roman plot. And if you think of the 
fact that the space between any two real numbers are taken by infinite 
fractions then the mind and the bank account of sanatan akhand bharata 
varsha truly begins to boggle.

I have heard it said that these arabic numerals are actually hindu 
numerals. But since a number is not a vivadit sthal, a disputed 
structure, we cannot pull down one number and try and build another in 
its place, as we did with the Shri Ramjanmabhoomi Mandir (Lord Rama 
Birthplace Temple). And how many numbers shall we pull down, and how 
many numbers shall we build. Yugas and Kalpas will pass even before we 
have reached a respectable few billion. This is a problem, other wise we 
could have proposed an all india Hindu Number Liberation Struggle. What 
to do. What to do. What to do.

Does this mean that the descendents and camp followers of those mlecchas 
who Dhatriji has accused of ruling roost over Bharat Bhoomi will 
completely walk out of the patent treasury loaded, and use their ill 
gotten arabic numeral induced gain to convert yet more hindus, and then 
what will happen to hinduism, i mean hindooism, with the double 
barrelled zero in the midle, will it become a big zero? Is that what we 
mean by Nada Brahma. He Bhagwan. And all this will happen because our 
traitor left handed intellectual class did not warning us in advance 
about the danger of patenting zero and the danger of not patenting 
zero.They are cheating not only in history,geography and mythology but 
in mathematics also. I think this is known as a zero sum game.

At least the Buddhists are able to make some capital out of their 
cunning philosophical concept of shunyata (or zero-ism) but us Hindus, 
we do not even have zeroism, we have dualities (dvaita) qualified 
dualities, and to top it all we have non-duality (advaita) that is 
actually infinity, and which are all totally useless in a commercial 
context and from the point of view of national economic growth because 
every infinity can be made paradoxically more as well as less infinite 
by the addition of an evil arabic number after it. So what will we do 
when we are reduced to zero? Infinity will be of no help to us. Not even 
Infinity Foundation which is doing so much good in Amerika-Dham by 
flying the flag of Dharma will be of any use. Hai Deva, Hai Rama, Hai 
Aryabhatta, Hai Hai, Hai Hai.

Vishaal ji, do you have any way out of this serious dilemma? I am 
reduced to nothing. You are vishaal, you are infinite, you are sarve 
sarva. Tell us, guide us, lead us. Shall we request Pravinji Togadiaji 
of Vishwa Hindu Parishad to propose a Vishwavyapi (world wide) campaign 
to ban all Arabic and Roman Numerals. Or should we ask for this campaign 
to remain confined to national level only. Is this happening because of 
globalization? And what will happen to our rising power, backed by 
binary number and computerization if we drop this arabic one, this evil 
aaleph from the binary duet of one and zero. Why are our patriotic 
computer scientists not building computers based only on pure santan 
mathematical concept of unity in infinity. We must do something, anything.

I remain

Shunya Shuddha

Vishal Rawlley wrote:

> Dhatri-ji said:
> 
> " --On 0,
> ...
>  I would like to bring a point on WTO, probably most of the members aware
> that except a few all countries signed WTO Free trade Geneva pact.  Under
> this India can claim Patents/IPR over 0.  How is this useful and applicable
> to India?  Let me explain more scientifically.
>  Hitech world use computers day-to-day life everywhere. Computers operate on
> "bit".  A bit is nothing but a binary digit (0 or 1). If India claim and get
> Patenting and IPR over 0, those all countries under the cover of WTO Pact
> should take the permission from India to operate their ELECTRICAL, NUCLEAR,
> MILITARY, DEFENCE, SPACE, R & D, INUDSTRIAL RELATED or whatever COMPUTERISED
> automation systems.  And general use of 0, India may/may not uses minimal
> charge. We (Indians) are so kind enough to allow countries to use 0 for
> general purposes. It depends again."
> 
> I say:
> Why no response by any "intellectual" on this question of "0" importance???
> 
> But Dhatri saahab, if we patent "0" and charge for its usage, won't people
> give us a "0" amount in return?? They will say:"scientifically" speaking, we
> have only zero to offer in return of a zero!
> 
> These Indians, I tell you, they are smart but they do not know how to profit
> from their smartness, we shall therefore remain poor only, alas. Hai Rama.
> 
> Now if we had invented I, II, III, V, X, XX, XXX, L, M etc. as the smart
> Romans did, then we should most defenitely have patented all those and
> charged IIIVXXXLM.... amounts for each single use and then we would have
> been a super power already and Akhand Bharat could have been a reality!!!
> 
> Now I hope no Romans read this and use this idea against us. Then, for
> example, each student going to standard IV might have to pay IV Euros  to
> them. That will surely ruin our education system. No? Then only the children
> in 'chauthi kaksha' (fourth grade) from hindi medium schools would be able
> to afford education, as they never even used the IV notation! Maybe, that
> will turn out to be a good thing after all! Hindi is really suffering in
> this country and so are all the regional languages. What say?
> 
> Jai Hind!!!
> 
> -Vishal
> 
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> 
> On 9/12/07, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>>Dear Readers including Junaid in particular,
>>
>>Your Must understand that Dhatri is a pen name like junaid from Gujarat
>>.  If you go deeper meaning for this pen name Dhatri, Dhatri ==
>>Earth.  Santi,  Sama, Dama are qualities of Mother Earth.  If you have
>>patience to look at these terms just go through the entire link or just fire
>>a find (Cntl+F) and type these terms over there.
>>
>>http://www.upnaway.com/~bindu/anantayogaweb/mind/mindchap37.htm
>>
>>To hell with the junaid sympathy, let me compose with a pity: -
>>
>>I have nothing to do with RSS, Sanghparivar, Vhp, Sadhu, Santh parishaths,
>>Madras's and Junaid party elsewhere and feelings.  India HINDU comes first
>>and whatever comes is later.  As a Citizen of India, Valid Passport holder,
>>It's my Constitutional right to vote as per my choice and live.  Those all
>>who never completed schooling and aware of India
>>Will never understand this simple thing.  I think this suffices to
>>enlighten those narrowly shattered closed brains.
>>
>>Focusing on the topic now,
>>
>>What is USA will do is subject to change.   Stop writing converse logic
>>and in REVERSE WAY.  Be Positive always.
>>
>>>If you remember Pakistan also detonated its nuclear weapons in the >same
>>
>>month as India, so perhaps they might reply by dispatching some >of them
>>into India if India goes for hot chases, surgical strikes, >masala dosas,
>>bhel pooris etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>YOU FORGET TO ADD wadapav, pohe, kachori (sweet things like India).
>>
>>Let me add Chillies (spicy).  By applying Mathematical
>>
>>Induction,on Junaid statement
>>"Pakistani nuclear weapons won't reach US democrat"
>>
>>so as the same will be true and applicable that "they will not move out of
>>their depots wherever they are".  I will prove it how
>>India can execute it later.
>>
>>--Buddhism is just a flavor of Hinduism.  As I quoted earlier
>>
>>Yada yada hi dharmasya Glanir bhavati bharata
>>Abhyutthanam adharmasya Tadatmanam srjamy aham
>>TRANSLATION
>>Whenever and wherever there is decay of righteousness, O Bharata, and a
>>rise of unrighteousness then I manifest myself!
>>OR
>>Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, O
>>descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion--at that time I
>>descend myself.
>>So Sidhartha, or Gowtham Buddha, or Buddha for simple understanding is the
>>9th incarnation (out of 10) and one more remaining to come.  The followers
>>of Buddhism now misunderstood it.
>>
>>--And on Yoga as an alternative way that India freshly offers to the world
>>or a bunch of people like you. What to do if people/countries like you are
>>betraying then bullying is the last sort of option.  I don't know how many
>>of the readers aware of this but happy to quote from the first Para of the
>>post
>>
>>--Dandam dasa gunam bhaveth
>>http://ndtv.com/mb/readreply.asp?topicid=1707&id=629543&tablename=Business
>>
>>--On 0,
>>Though you agreed and admitted, it shows you lack of knowledge,
>>understanding and vision.  Your English usage, smartness and joviality
>>(professor student) and your will in favor/against PATENTING and IPR is
>>nothing to do with the practicalities. You may say that countries/you can
>>use 0 as "orez" in your/their OWN WAY.   No problem you/countries can write
>>whatever the way they wish to use.
>>
>>  I would like to bring a point on WTO, probably most of the members aware
>>that except a few all countries signed WTO Free trade Geneva pact.  Under
>>this India can claim Patents/IPR over 0.  How is this useful and applicable
>>to India?  Let me explain more scientifically.
>>Hitech world use computers day-to-day life everywhere. Computers operate
>>on "bit".  A bit is nothing but a binary digit (0 or 1). If India claim and
>>get Patenting and IPR over 0, those all countries under the cover of WTO
>>Pact should take the permission from India to operate their ELECTRICAL,
>>NUCLEAR, MILITARY, DEFENCE, SPACE, R & D, INUDSTRIAL RELATED or whatever
>>COMPUTERISED automation systems.  And general use of 0, India may/may not
>>uses minimal charge. We (Indians) are so kind enough to allow countries to
>>use 0 for general purposes. It depends again.
>>
>>Khalls, junaid and his favorite batch finished.  Forget nuclear dispatch,
>>for moving them people need INDIA permission.
>>
>>We (Indians) can do this practically with a proper planning and need a
>>motivated, will powered political system to execute this.  This is feasible
>>99%.
>>
>>Those 9 points are a few I mentioned there are many more.
>>
>>--On points 1,2,3
>>You are not supposed to speak on Maharana Pratap, Shivaji and Sadhus Shri
>>Pandit Nehru, Gandhi, rest of the patriots (Indian).  Because they are all
>>sadhus and very kind hearted in nature.  You will never compare them with
>>Aurangazeb.
>>For your kind information on India (Akhand Bharat) and its boarders from
>>Alexander to British
>>1)      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidhartha
>>2)      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asoka
>>3)      http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/origin.html#KailasYatra
>>4)      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satavahana
>>
>>For your better understanding
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asian_Stone_Age
>>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/EpicIndia.jpg
>>
>>
>>-- On points 4,5
>>Koh-e-noor, Peacock throne, Shah-e-jahan, Nadir-shaw your writing are in
>>genuine, I request you to please
>>
>>1)      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koh-e_Noor_Diamond
>>2)      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacock_Throne
>>
>>-- On points 6,7,8
>>Zinna tower is there at several places in India.  And Zinna daughter is
>>dying to live for her rest of the life as she did it till her teenage
>>(before partition), in zinna home at Mumbai.  |This is the fact and for your
>>kind information. I pity for Jinnah, for Jinnah daughter and Jinnah sister
>>who migrated to Pakistan during partition.  Once again JAMMU AND KASHMIR is
>>an Integral part of India with those of illegal occupations from Pakistan
>>and China. We can think towards Akhand Bharat, if Junaid or like
>>personalities/world can visit Pakistan and ask them to vacate peaks occupied
>>and offered.
>>Junaid can shout jihad there and see the reflections.  If alive India is
>>ready welcome the kid.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dhatri.
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
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