[Reader-list] Fear and Loathing in Big Cities

S.Fatima sadiafwahidi at yahoo.co.in
Sun Apr 13 08:53:19 IST 2008


Dear Radhika
I am replying to you very late, since for some strange
reasons, Sarai mails are coming late or some of them
not arriving at all.

You mentioned that the poor Muslims are quick to turn
into mobs (especially to overpower a pizza delivery
boy). I simply wanted to ask you: have you ever heard
of "Road Rage of Delhi"? Not a day passes when people
of Delhi don't chase, abuse, thrash, stab, kill, rape
and crush other people of Delhi for slightest of
excuses. Tell me: are all those people coming from
Muslim ghettos like Jamia nagar?

Also, can you cite just one example of a Muslim who
can get away without paying Indian taxes because he
thinks that his zakat is enough?

 
SF



> On 4/8/08, radhikarajen at vsnl.net
> <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> >
> > My dear sister Fathima and her post was very
> thought provoking. But let us
> > be honest to see the facts in the right
> perspective, is it not true that
> > poor muslims are second grade citizens like all
> others in other faiths
> > divided by castes. But the difference ends there,
> the poor in other faith do
> > not resort to violence at the flimsy excuse if the
> pizza carrying vehicle
> > touches their children playing on the roads, they
> are not out immediately in
> > groups to demand money for the accident.They do
> not loot with mob power.Hard
> > working individuals irrespective of their faith
> always see success in life
> > inspite of bad systemic flaws of vote bank
> governance,that is how one can
> > see yarn merchant Ambani and his next generation
> in wealth.But
> > unfortunately, many muslims think that their
> zakath is only legal and not
> > taxes a citizens have to pay, but they want
> "subsidy" even when the HOLY
> > script says you travel with your honest hard
> earned money.
> > A system of governance which delivers good
> governance to ALL in society
> > with fair and just form is the democracy, but do
> we have it in place.
> > ?Citizens are  divided in to groups of castes,
> minorities and "mahorities
> > and ultimately, a minority rules the citizens
> defying the oath of
> > governance, with all fear, with all unfair means
> for the votes, unless all
> > citizens irrespective of faith unite as a single
> society this game will go
> > on, appeasing one section of citizens at the cost
> of other sections of the
> > society.
> >
> >   Regards.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Shuddhabrata Sengupta <shuddha at sarai.net>
> > Date: Monday, April 7, 2008 6:53 pm
> > Subject: [Reader-list] Fear and Loathing in Big
> Cities
> > To: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> >
> > > Dear Fatima, Naeem dear all,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your posts on pizza delivery and fear
> and loathing in
> > > big
> > > cities, and how New York and New Delhi, when it
> comes to the sharp
> > >
> > > edge of exclusion, can seem like shadows of each
> other. I recently
> > >
> > > saw something in the Delhi edition of the Indian
> Express that I
> > > think
> > > would be of interest to the ensuing discussion.
> Its about a wall.
> > > No,
> > > Its not in Palestine, but in South Delhi. I
> thought it would echo
> > >
> > > (from a different angle) some of the thoughts
> being expressed in
> > > Naeem and Fatima's posts.
> > >
> > > best
> > >
> > > Shuddha
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------
> > > Great Wall of Kalkaji
> > > Preeti Jha, Indian Express
> > > Posted online: Saturday , April 05, 2008 at
> 11:51:20
> > >
>
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Great-Wall-of-Kalkaji/292736/
> > >
> > > New Delhi, April 04 Construction of a five-foot
> wall to divide a
> > > slum
> > > cluster from neighbouring middle-class colonies
> is wreaking havoc
> > > in
> > > south Delhi's Kalkaji Extension.
> > >
> > > Standing in the remnants of her grocery store,
> Seema Sagar watches
> > > as
> > > a young boy jumps from one mound of debris to
> another, before
> > > precariously balancing on a stray brick. All
> this to safely cross
> > > the
> > > stream of sewage that now floats outside her
> house.
> > >
> > > On Monday, bulldozers razed down more than 1,000
> small shops and
> > > homes to make way for a wall that will encircle
> all three camps in
> > >
> > > the slum cluster: Bhumiheen, Nehru and
> Navjeevan. Four hundred
> > > metres
> > > of the proposed 2-km wall are already in place,
> under construction
> > > by
> > > the Delhi Development Authority (DDA) since
> December. "We are
> > > acting
> > > on an order from the High Court," says DDA's
> executive engineer K
> > > K
> > > Khanna.
> > >
> > > And the High Court was responding to a petition
> filed by Arsh
> > > Avtaar
> > > Singh, former president of Kohinoor Apartments'
> Resident Welfare
> > > Association, in May 2005. The petition sought a
> solution against
> > > encroachment of roads and services by slum
> residents.
> > >
> > > 'Block them out'
> > > Neighbouring middle-class colonies support
> Singh's efforts. A flat-
> > >
> > > owner from nearby Konark Apartments, who does
> not want to be
> > > named,
> > > says: "All my life savings have been used to
> purchase this flat.
> > > For
> > > 22 years I have lived with the stink from open
> defecation, and
> > > constant over-crowding from blocked roads."
> > >
> > > Residents want slum dwellers to be relocated in
> 'pukka' housing.
> > > "I
> > > feel bad for them," says Singh, whose own
> domestic help lives in
> > > Bhumiheen Camp. "They should be given an
> alternative home
> > > immediately."
> > > But the DDA claims it needs time to relocate the
> slum dwellers.
> > > "The
> > > wall is a temporary arrangement to offer
> protection to flat
> > > owners,"
> > > Khanna says.
> > >
> 
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