[Reader-list] Fwd: kashmir pictures

[Kshmendra Kaul]

Dear Rahul Pandita
 
I do not know who Mahmood Farooqui is and I do not care. I do not know who Rahul Pandita is and again I do not care.
 
What Mahmood 'stands for' and how that "standing" finds expression in the private space in which you know him is a matter between you and Mahmood. I have commented on Mahmood's post in this public space SARAI.
 
Mahmood put a 'poser' in SARAI asking whether 'all press is communal'. He based that 'poser' on the basis of a rather strange interpretation of photographs in 3 Newspapers. I pointed out that 'strangeness' to him. I put counters "posers" to him, which he ignored.
 
To start with, no person of any serious intent would put the poser  whether 'all press is communal' on the basis of a single day photographic coverage of a single event from just 3 newspapers. 
 
Whether you understand or do not understand the not so subtle differentiations, I stand by what I said. I interpret Mahmood's "poser" (with the background for that "poser") as being seemingly a reflection of his himself being communal and seemingly trying to instigate communal feelings.
 
Kshmendra Kaul
 
 

--- On Sat, 8/16/08, Rahul Pandita <rahulpandita at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rahul Pandita <rahulpandita at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Fwd: kashmir pictures
To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>, "mahmood farooqui" <mahmood.farooqui at gmail.com>
Cc: kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 7:19 AM

Kshemendra

I don't know who you are but I know who Mahmood is and what he stands for.
The most unfortunate part of this whole debate is that people like you are
resorting to personal attacks. For God sake, don't throw shit around. If
Mahmood is communal like you have said, then I am Ariel Sharon. 

Let us put a stop to this madness. If you have to express your feelings, please
do it in a decent way. Let us at least respect a platform like sarai. Passions
are alright but let us not turn into Ashok Singhals and Ladens. 

Rahul Pandita


--- On Thu, 14/8/08, mahmood farooqui <mahmood.farooqui at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: mahmood farooqui <mahmood.farooqui at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Reader-list] Fwd:  kashmir pictures
> To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Date: Thursday, 14 August, 2008, 7:57 PM
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: mahmood farooqui <mahmood.farooqui at gmail.com>
> Date: 2008/8/14
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] kashmir pictures
> To: kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
> 
> 
> Thanks Kshemendra, I can't say I am getting the answers
> but the responses
> are making me think.
> 
> Best,
> Mahmood
> 
> 2008/8/14 Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> 
>  Dear Mahmood
> >
> > Whether 'all press' is communal or not, you
> certainly are. You are trying
> > to instigate communal feelings by suggesting a
> communal slant.
> >
> > Times of India and Hindustan Times showed photograph
> of a hoodlum
> > attacking a policeman.
> >
> > Inquilab showed the photograph of a person injured by
> police firing. If
> > this person was a part of the mob attempting to break
> the law and/or
> > attacking the police, then the injured person was a
> hoodlum injured by
> > police firing.
> >
> > What is communal in all of this? You are the one
> making it communal.
> >
> > There was confrontation between the police and law
> breaking hoodlums in
> > Kashmir and in Jammu. What makes either situation
> communal?
> >
> > Which is the 'communal' one between two kinds
> of photographs, one where law
> > enforcers are shown as being attacked by law breakers
> and another one where
> > law breakers are shown as having been hurt by law
> enforcers.
> >
> > Perhaps if you had furnished the captions accompanying
> the photographs, one
> > could make a call on which newspaper showed a
> 'communal' tinge
> >
> > Kshmendra
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On *Wed, 8/13/08, mahmood farooqui
> <mahmood.farooqui at gmail.com>*wrote:
> >
> > From: mahmood farooqui
> <mahmood.farooqui at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Reader-list] kashmir pictures
> > To: "sarai list"
> <reader-list at sarai.net>, "Aamir Bashir" <
> > unattore1 at gmail.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:33 PM
> >
> > Yesterday, nine Kashmiris were allegedly killed in the
> valley because of the
> > police firing.
> >
> > Today, in the Bombay editions of the Times of India
> and Hindustan Times,
> > there is an identical image of a policeman being
> attacked by a Kashmiri.
> > There are no images of any Kashmiris being killed or
> attacked by the police.
> >
> > The Urdu daily Inqilab, however, shows a Kashmiri
> injured by the police
> > firing.
> >
> > Is it simplistic to say that all press is communal?
> >
> > Is the poser itself simplistic?
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