[Reader-list] On KP anger

[Aarti Sethi]

i think actually mahmood has raised a very pertinent and troubling question,
and one that it would be worthwhile to discuss. And on this issue I think
many of us who otherwise have disagreed vehemently with Aditya, Pawan and
Kshamendra on this list might actually like to begin a discussion. Its a
curious question, this.

And this contradiction has surfaced over and over again in the discussions
we have had on the list. So while on one hand there is a rage against what
is seen as being a complicity of the state with the dispossesion of the KPs
from their ancestral homes, there is a simultaneous genuflection to it. Let
me hazard a few guesses:

One, is a realisation of the immense power that the state wields.

Two is a fear that if azadi were to come to Kashmir now, given what has
occurred in the last 15 years, there is a sense that the terms of this azadi
and self-determination will have no place for kashmiri pandits. Therefore if
you cannot support a movement that is seen as being  deterimental to your
intrests then it makes sense to throw ones lot in with the state.

Also I think there is a much more sinister politics at play in which lines
have been drawn along religion so sharply that self-determiantion is seen as
being a kashmiri muslim demand, and the state system is allied, in its
current configuration, with the right. And the state is totally complicit in
producing a situation in which the rights of the kashmiri pandits become
allied to an idea of akand bharat, and therefore any opposition to akhand
bharat is logically seen as detrimental to KP interests.

And in all of this the state grins like the cheshire cat, now you see it now
you dont.

best
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On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:22 PM, inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:

> kashmiri pandits do exist somewhere in the universe, but are not the
> centre of universe. this is what Dear mahmood said, at least i feel
> so.
>
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear Mahmood ,
> > I agree with you . While as we Kashmiri Pandit should not love India as a
> > state as much , but the respect for the Indian nation should be there.
> >
> > I agree that along with terrorists , separatists the Indian Govt has been
> a
> > complicit which resulted in the miseries of the Kashmiri pandits.
> >
> > I must admit that this mail of your has been the only understanding mail
> > which I have received viz a viz our expression on this
> > otherwise pseudo secular and leftist forum.
>
> > Thanks for your understanding.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Pawan Durani
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 6:58 PM, mahmood farooqui <
> > mahmood.farooqui at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have been trying to understand the anger, rage, rather of the KPs. I
> >> understand a fair bit of it, I understand some of the pain of the
> >> displacement--second hand at least-, I understand the resentment at the
> >> disrespect and the neglect shown towards them by the intellectuals and
> the
> >> secularists, I understand something of those things.
> >>
> >> What I want to understand is why does everything turn, for a lot of
> their
> >> exponents here, on the love for the Indian nation, or rather, more
> >> appropriately, on the love for the Indian state. Why must the Indian
> state,
> >> and all its weaknesses, be worshipped to sanctify Kashmiri Pandit pain.
> How
> >> does humiliation turn into glorification for an entity that is actually
> >> complicit in their brutality?
> >>
> >> Is there no other way to make sense of this tragedy?
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