[Reader-list] The Bajrang Bombers and Other Stories AboutHindutvaTerrorism

[radhikarajen at vsnl.net]

Yes, that is the advantage of being hindu, this is the only way of life, which is truely secular, respects all thoughts of others, accepts criticism and finds merit if any in such thoughts. in any other faith, dissent is met with only violent means, as Galeleo as gauged out of eyes, stoned to death in others cases. 

 As hindu one has no compulsion to visit temples, to confirm to be any of the "conditions" that, he/she must visit on friday prayers, sunday prayers, can commit sin and get rid of the sin by confessions. !
Hindu can be totally atheist but still he is not shunned, a reformist like raja Ram Moan Roy is accepted, his thoughts are validated and sati which was evolved when the society was tormented by invaders armies, raping the vanquished soldiers wife, such women found buening fire more welcome than the atrocities of the winning armies of inhumans. But whe such conditions vanished sati also so got reformed, 
   In other faiths, no such reforms are to be seen as they  still read the scriptures , which were written in the light of animal fats candles, even now neon lights cant change their mindsets. ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:00 am
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The Bajrang Bombers and Other Stories AboutHindutvaTerrorism
To: Prabhakar Singh <prabhakardelhi at yahoo.com>
Cc: reader-list at sarai.net

> no no he must be a hindu -a truley secular hindu. 
> because a muslim or a christian will never say anything against 
> his/her co-religionist. 
>  
> this must be the reason  
> (1) why this hindusthan was invaded by foreigners again & again 
> before 1947
> (2) why this country was partitioned in 1947
> and
> (3) even after creation of pakistan why this country is suffering 
> so much at the hands of muslim terrorists 
> vedavati
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Prabhakar Singh <prabhakardelhi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Prabhakar Singh <prabhakardelhi at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The Bajrang Bombers and Other Stories 
> About HindutvaTerrorism
> To: radhikarajen at vsnl.net, "Shivam Vij शिवम् विज्" 
> <mail at shivamvij.com>Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 12:38 AM
> 
> I don't think he is a Hindu at all.He should change his name too 
> accordingto his adopted religion or faith as his name causes a lot 
> of confusion when we
> read his baseless inflmmatory anti-Hindu writings day in and day out.
> Prabhakar 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "radhikarajen at vsnl.net" <radhikarajen at vsnl.net>
> To: Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् <mail at shivamvij.com>
> Cc: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008 7:35:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The Bajrang Bombers and Other Stories About
> HindutvaTerrorism
> 
> True, SECULAR hindu like you are trying to terrorise all of us in 
> society with
> pen which is mightier than
> GUN.  When in your SECULAR opinion the danish cartoon is not work 
> of art, but
> hussains work is art, great logic indeed for secular thoughts. 
> Then, in Orissa
> when evangelists use guns to shoot down a 90 year old man, it is 
> not crusade but
> picnic of the evangelists.!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् <mail at shivamvij.com>
> Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:27 pm
> Subject: [Reader-list] The Bajrang Bombers and Other Stories About
> HindutvaTerrorism
> To: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> 
> > Dear friends,
> > 
> > I think the time has come when the term "Hindutva terrorism"
> should
> > stop raising eyebrows. There has been yet another instance of 
> Bajrang> Dalis trying to make bombs and the bombs went off. (See 
> Mail Today
> > report by Piyush Srivastava pasted below). There has also been
> > political violence by Hindutva elements in Orissa, and and as we 
> know> the violent agitation in Jammu is supported by the Hindutva 
> cadres and
> > front organisations. I think the likes of Vedavati Jogi will no 
> longer> be able to say on the list that "all terrorists are Muslims."
> > 
> > Please see this cover story in Communalism Combat:
> > http://sabrang.com/cc/archive/2008/july-aug08/cover1.html
> > 
> > And more stories in that issue:
> > http://sabrang.com/cc/archive/2008/july-aug08/index.html
> > 
> > 
> > o o o
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > BAJRANG DAL BOMBERS
> > 
> > Sangh activists blow themselves up planning revenge attacks
> > 
> > by Piyush Srivastava in Lucknow
> > Mail Today, 26 August 2008
> > mailtoday.in
> > 
> > IT'S OFFICIAL. The Sangh Parivar members have now joined in plotting
> > terrorist attacks. On Sunday afternoon, a bomb accidentally went off
> > in Kanpur killing a former Kanpur city convener of the Bajrang 
> Dal and
> > his associate while they were assembling a bomb in a private hostel
> > room.
> > 
> > The police suspect that the two were planning retaliatory 
> attacks in
> > the aftermath of the bomb blasts in Ahmedabad and could be part 
> of a
> > larger conspiracy. They were reportedly making six to seven 
> bombs to
> > trigger off a serial blast in the Muslimdominated areas of 
> Ahmedabad.> 
> > The hostel room was badly damaged in the explosion. The police
> > stumbled on substantial quantity of bombmaking material from the 
> spot.> They recovered three kg of lead oxide, 500 gm of red lead, 
> one kg of
> > ammonium and potassium nitrate, 11 hand grenades, seven timers, over
> > two kg of bomb pins and pellets, seven batteries, 12 bulbs and about
> > 50 m of wires. Two of the timers found at the spot were attached to
> > batteries with wires.
> > 
> > The dead men havebeen identified as 25- year-old Rajeev Mishra and
> > 31-year-old Bhupendra Singh Chopra. The explosion was so intense 
> that> both the legs of Chopra and Mishra were blown off and they 
> died within
> > minutes. Two other youths, who were in the adjoining room, sustained
> > serious injuries when the room's wall collapsed due to the 
> explosion.> 
> > Identifying the slain bombers as part of the Sangh Parivar, Kanpur
> > senior superintendent of police (SSP) Ashok Kumar Singh told MAIL
> > TODAY, "I am told Bhupendra Singh Chopra was a Bajrang Dal member.
> > Even earlier, Bajrang Dal activists were found to be indulging in
> > antisocial activities in Kanpur." A resident of Shastri Nagar in the
> > city, Chopra was the convener of the Bajrang Dal in Kanpur city
> > between 1998 and 2000.
> > 
> > Prakash Sharma, the national convener of Bajrang Dal, is from Kanpur
> > and knew the duo pretty well. Talking to MAIL TODAY, Sharma said
> > Chopra and Mishra were members of his organisation. "I don't deny
> they
> > were active in the Bajrang Dal a few years ago. But, they were
> > inactive these days," he said.
> > 
> > The injured have been identified as Vikas Singh, 21, of Fatehpur and
> > Bupendar, 20, of Chitrakoot. They are students of a Kanpur 
> polytechnic> institute. The condition of the two was said to be 
> serious.> 
> > Sharma feigned ignorance of the activities Chopra and Mishra were
> > involved in. About the explosives Sharma claimed, "Such things 
> can be
> > bought from the market any day during Dussehra and Diwali. 
> Though both
> > Bhupendra and Rajeev used to meet me, I didn't know what they were
> > planning to do."
> > 
> > Kanpur range inspector general of police S.N. Singh pointed towards
> > the possibility of serial blasts. "It was meant for a larger
> > conspiracy. Most probably these people had planned serial 
> blasts. We
> > are investigating their links."
> > 
> > Another officer said the police had information about more 
> explosives> that had been dumped by the two Bajrang Dal members 
> and hoped to
> > recover them soon.
> > 
> > Mithilesh Kumar Pandey, the officer in charge of the bomb disposal
> > squad of Kanpur said he found enough material at the blast site for
> > assembling seven bombs of high intensity. They had used bulb 
> filaments> in place of detonators to ignite the explosives. The 
> hand grenades
> > recovered from the spot were improvised and could be opened from 
> both> sides on which iron panels were fixed. The scene suggested 
> that the
> > bombmakers were well trained in their job.
> > 
> > The incident took place around 3 pm in the room of a private 
> > hostel in
> > Rajiv Nagar colony of Shardanagar area in Kanpur city. The 
> hostel is
> > run by Shiv Saran Mishra, Rajeev's father. A retired employee of
> > Kanpur Electric Supply Company (KESCO), he had reportedly 
> severed his
> > links withhis son two years ago and was living in his ancestral
> > village of Nankari on the outskirts of the city. Shiv Saran had 
> rented> out six hostel rooms to students of a polytechnic but 
> Rajeev, an
> > executive with a private firm in Lucknow, had forcibly occupied 
> > one of
> > the rooms two months ago, apparently against his father's wishes.
> > 
> > Shiv Saran said Bhupendra and his son had attended a Bajrang Dal
> > training camp in Lucknow on June 13, 2001 in which they were taught
> > martial arts and the use of arms and ammunitions.
> > 
> > Police officers said Bhupendra and Rajeev were upset after the
> > Ahmedabad serial blasts and would talk about their plans for 
> visiting> Gujarat to take revenge. "Both the men had left their 
> parents'homes.
> > Their relatives knew they were involved in serious criminal 
> activities> since 2001," an officer said.
> > 
> > SSP Singh said Rajeev, who was a bachelor, used to visit Kanpur 
> every> Sunday and used to spend a few hours in the hostel room 
> with his
> > friends. This Sunday, he arrived at around 2:30 pm. Bhupendra 
> reached> there 15 minutes later. The explosion was heard around 3 pm.
> > 
> > Vinay Katiyar, a Rajya Sabha member, national general secretary 
> of the
> > BJP and founder of the Bajrang Dal, said, "I have no connection with
> > the organisation (Bajrang Dal) since 1996. They do not report to me
> > and I do not chalk out their programmes."
> > 
> > piyush.srivastava at mailtoday.in
> > 
> > o o o
> > 
> > 'Cops & govt ignore Hindu terror in Nanded'
> > 
> > By Krishna Kumar in Mumbai
> > Mail Today, 26 August 2008
> > mailtoday.in
> > 
> > SINCE 2006, at 1.30 am on April 6, Bajrang Dal cadre celebrate 
> 'Shahid> Diwas' in Nanded by bursting crackers. They observe the 
> > 'martyrdom' of
> > two colleagues, who died while making bombs meant to be planted
> > outside a mosque in Maharashtra.
> > 
> > Besides the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), Bajrang Dal
> > workers, too, have been involved in perpetrating terror, said Feroze
> > Khan Gazi, a functionary of the Movement of Justice and Peace in
> > Nanded. But, he adds, Bajrang Dal workers do not get charged 
> with the
> > blasts and when they do, as in the Nanded case, they get bail.
> > 
> > The Anti-Terrorist Squad in Maharashtra was puzzled when a
> > low-intensity bomb went off in a theatre screening Jodha Akbar in
> > Panvel on February 20 this year. On May 31, a blast took place 
> at the
> > Vishnudas Bhave auditorium in Vashi and on June 4, a bomb 
> exploded at
> > the Gadkari Rangayatan auditorium in Thane. Both auditoriums were
> > screening the controversial Marathi play Amhi Panchpute, which
> > allegedly mocked Hindu gods and goddesses.
> > 
> > It was only after the arrest of two men from the Sanathan 
> Sanstha (an
> > organisation which claims to be working for the uplift of 
> Hindus) that
> > the police realised it was the work of people who wanted to 'market
> > their own brand of Hindu terror'.
> > 
> > In the Nanded incident, cadres of the Bajrang Dal were planning a
> > blast outside an Aurangabad mosque when one of the bombs exploded,
> > killing two men (Naresh Lakshman Rajkondawar and Himanshu Venkatesh
> > Panse) and injuring four others. All six were Bajrang Dal 
> workers who
> > had formed a hit-list of mosques to be targeted.
> > 
> > Shankar Gaikar, state convener of Bajrang Dal, however, claims 
> the men
> > were not part of his organisation. "The police can say anything but
> > they were not our members," he said even though RSS and Bajrang Dal
> > literature was seized from Rajkondwar's house, where the blast took
> > place.
> > 
> > The police initially tried to dilly dally but had to arrest the
> > accused after intense pressure. "We hoped with the CBI probing the
> > case, we could get justice. But the accused are out on bail," said
> > Gazi.
> > 
> > Maharashtra DGP A.N. Roy defended his men, saying "The chargesheet
> has
> > been filed. What more do you expect us to do?"
> > 
> > Gazi said, "There was another blast in a go-down in Shastri Nagar
> near
> > Nanded. Two people died in the incident. The police initially 
> told us
> > there was a short circuit but the go-down did not have any 
> electricity> connection."
> > 
> > Gazi accused the police of shielding the accused and said the state
> > and Centre let the accused go scot free.
> > 
> > "They only want to portray Islamic terrorism. What about what is
> > happening in Nanded?" he asked.
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