[Reader-list] Kasab brought from Nepal by Indian forces?

[Kshmendra Kaul]

Dear Pawan
 
I agree with Fatima. Your comment clubbing her with Antulay was totally unwarranted. 
 
At the least, I hope your clubbing them together had nothing to do with both being (presumably) Muslims. If that was at the back of your mind then I consider such generalisations of Muslims questioning their loyalty towards India as the handiwork of  Anti-India propagation that seeks to bring about divides amonst the citizens of India.
 
What else can one understand from your comment " And then they say we are very much Indian". Who is the "They"?
 
Fatima simply posted a News Item. It defenitely was interesting. It was from Times News Network. The report itself said that it was a additional "twist to the conspiracy theories in Pakistan's media," 
 
There is nothing very devastating or Anti-India even about the questions raised by Antulay. 
 
The Hindutvavaadis had been with frequency and great vehemence ascribing motives to and attacking Hemant Karkare's investigations into the involvement of "Hindu Terrorists" in the Malegaon Blasts. It is only natural that Karkare's killing (with a bullet-proof vest donned) should not only raise a few eybrows but bring into the arena questions about whether he was eliminated by "Hindu Terrorists". Such suspicions might be far-fetched, might be without duly investigating the facts of 'how and where' he died but such suspicions are not illogical.
 
Kshmendra 

--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Fatima फ़ातिमा <fatimaschool45 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Fatima फ़ातिमा <fatimaschool45 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Kasab brought from Nepal by Indian forces?
To: "Pawan Durani" <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
Cc: "Reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 2:08 PM

Dear Pawan
I simply forwarded a news item - that doesn't mean I believe in a
conspiracy theory, or I agree with what Antulay says.

And what has being Indian got to do with raising a doubt about
something. This does not mean that one is anti-India or anything. Does
raising your doubt or voice about something that doesn't make sense to
you, makes you anti-India?

In this country so many people such as tribals, dalits and woman (not
just Muslims) are being subjected to persecution and prejudice by the
state forces, police, army and media. If someone raises a voice or
doubt, does that become anti-India?

Today everyone is saying that our politicians are corrupt and they are
the ones who have brought us to this state of affairs. And then we
believe exactly what the politicians and the state machinery tells us
as TRUTH. Don't you think truths can also be created.



On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Something is verry common to Fatimas and Antulays of this
> world............And then they say we are very much Indian.....
>
> On 12/16/08, Fatima फ़ातिमा <fatimaschool45 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, I don't want to promote any conspiracy theories, but this
one
>> sounded too interesting:
>> ---
>>
>> Kasab was arrested by Indian agencies in Kathmandu 2 years ago
>>
>> 16 Dec 2008, 0814 hrs IST, TIMES NEWS NETWORK & AGENCIES
>>
>> Adding a twist to the conspiracy theories in Pakistan's media, a
>> lawyer C M Farooque has claimed that the surviving Mumbai attack
>> accused Ajmal Kasab was arrested in Kathmandu in 2006 by Indian
>> agencies with the help of Nepalese forces, media reported from
>> Rawalpindi on Monday.
>>
>> ''C M Farooque, Advocate, said the Nepalese forces arrested
almost 200
>> people including Kasab before 2006 and his application in this regard
>> was lying pending in the Nepalese supreme court in which Nepalese
>> forces and Indian High Commission were made respondents,''
said the
>> report .
>>
>> It added that the advocate had claimed he wrote letters to Pakistan
>> and Indian governments and addressed a press conference in Nepal on
>> the issue . The report further said that Kasab's parents had
contacted
>> Farooque's NGO for help.
>>
>> It concluded, '' The people arrested in Nepal had gone there
on legal
>> visa for business but Indian agencies were in the habit of capturing
>> Pakistanis from Nepal and afterwards implicated them in the Mumbailike
>> incidents to malign Pakistan .'' In the meantime,
sabrerattling
>> ratcheted up in Pakistan's media, both English and Urdu, following
>> reports of 'incursions ' by IAF jets.
>>
>> Although India denied any such incident, and Pakistan's political
>> leadership played it down, several newspaper editorials in Pakistani
>> papers believe otherwise, and ticked off the Pakistan government for
>> its soft attitude.
>>
>> The Peshawar-based Frontier Post said in a sharp editorial ,
'' When
>> the Indian fighter planes intruded into our territory the same day by
>> at least four kilometres in our two sectors located far apart, this
>> cannot be believed to be inadvertent trespassing.''
>>
>> It went on to warn '' if the Pakistan leadership keeps acting
as the
>> apologist of this patently provocative Indian intrusion, it is only
>> shooting itself in the foot''.
>>
>> The tone was censorial in The Nation's editorial as well.
'' Aerial
>> incursions could have been a right time for Islamabad to mount a
>> diplomatic offensive and raise the issue of these violations at the UN
>> to ward off any future military adventurism by India,'' said
the
>> daily.
>>
>> The News, too, suggested that the alleged incursions were no
>> 'mistake'. '' Both New Delhi and Islamabad have put
the incident down
>> to a 'mistake' , this sounds unconvincing. The fact that the
>> incursions happened within 24 hours in two separate sectors makes the
>> official explanations seem still less likely . It is thought the
>> Indians may have been attempting to test readiness,'' said its
>> editorial.
>>
>> Pakistan's leading Urdu daily , Jang, lashed out at India for
>> aggravating the strained Indo-Pak relationship. Its editorial said
>> that India has dangerous intentions and Pakistan should be prepared to
>> meet any challenge .
>>
>> Reminding India that the 17 million Pakistanis have a right to defend
>> their sovereignty , the editorial said that Pakistan could go to any
>> extent to protect itself. An opinion piece by economist Kaiser Bengali
>> in the Dawn provided a argument against state patronage of terrorists
>> .
>>
>> ''Clearly, there is an infrastructure with organizational ,
financial
>> and operational resources to recruit, indoctrinate and train the
>> jihadis. Clearly , such an infrastructure cannot operate without
>> tolerance or support from powerful elements aligned to state
>> agencies.''
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