[Reader-list] Is Kasab a Pakistani?

[Pawan Durani]

Dear Taha,

The only reason I support the introduction of this card is for security
reasons , and at the same time i do agree that the introduction is not fool
proof.

We have had example in Jammu & Kashmir that an inflitrated Pakistani Citizen
managed to even contest elections and we have another example from North
East . These two examples whould have been fool proof , but we failed.

I also feel once the cards are created , Govt should owe more responsibility
towards the citizens in terms of security ,insurance etc.

Pawan



On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Taha Mehmood
<2tahamehmood at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Dear Pawan,
>
> Thank you carrying the conversation forward.  Let me state this I am in no
> way against the introduction of national identity cards as I am in no way
> against the non-introduction of National Identity cards.
>
> I think given the times that we live in, it is but -natural- for us to have
> a identity document of some sort.
>
> The reason I would like to pose some questions to you is because I think
> insofar as the introduction of national identity cards in India is concerned
> we have a very curious situation of the almost deafening silence on the side
> of the discourse contrasted by a cacophony of industrial activity related to
> manufacture of plastic cards, RFID technology, chips, smart cards and so
> on.  Hence I feel it is high time we in India start thinking and talking
> about this issue.
>
> Hence,
>
>
> You state-
>
>  I do believe that we in India should create the national ID bank. We may
> have hiccups but then we need to start. Let us not be deterred by failures
> in system , it is possible wherever there are humans and technology.
> We need the system to build up as somehow we have to control the
> 'uncontrolled' infiltration.
>
> What I would like to know from you or  possibly anyone on this list who is
> interested in this debate is,
>
> 1. Why do we need a national identity card in India in the first place?
> 2. Why now?
> 3. What justifies the disbursement of funds to create this national
> database? What is the opportunity cost of these funds?
> 4. Where in this world do we have a precedent both in temporal and in
> spatial terms which shows a positive co-relationship between issuance of
> identity cards and a decline in infiltration?
> 5. What is the evidence do we have that in the event of a disbursement of
> an identity document, we have the requisite capacity for a -just-
> disbursement?
>
> I do not expect you to answer them because I understand that most of these
> questions relate to work-in-progress, but at the same time I would be
> interested in knowing your views about them.
>
> Warm regards
>
> Taha
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Javed,
>>
>> Honestly, i hated to view Mumbai blast as a hindu / muslim issue
>> ....however I must admit that Fatima let me down.
>>
>> It was a covert act by her to create a suspicion.
>>
>> Coming back to the Identity card issue , I do believe that we in India
>> should create the national ID bank. We may have hiccups but then we need to
>> start.
>>
>> Let us not be deterred by failures in system , it is possible wherever
>> there are humans and technology.
>>
>> We need the system to build up as somehow we have to control the
>> 'uncontrolled' inflitration.Look at the kind of inflitration we have in
>> North East from Bangladesh etc.
>>
>> Do we need things to continue in the same way ?
>>
>> Pawan
>>
>>
>