[Reader-list] Free expression for a Muslim Traitor-AlienorHindubetrayers?

[mahmood farooqui]

Are intellectuals/artistes/writers special people whom we should treat
differently from other people...are Bangladeshi migrants seeking
freedom from tyranny of hunger part of those whom we can give asylum
to...could this extend to Pakistanis, who went from India, or those
that didn't but who now want to come and live in India...the great
modernist short story writer and poet Ahmed Hamesh, who did his high
school from India, tried hard to return to India and live here, in the
eighties, but failed and had to be deported here...

Would asylum depend on the fitness of the candidate, whethe she is
deserving or not? Can we use examples from lived practices, from the
past, or history, without drawing any general conclusions from it,
without, in short, becoming normative--can history serve us as
particulars alone?

On 14/02/2008, radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>   freedom of speech and then show of lati along with the free speech has
>  resulted in enough violence and show of intolerence in maharashtra,one
>  non-entity who with his navnirman sena went on to destroy the property that
>  belonged to all in his state invoking the marati manoos for the violence,
>  another talking of retaliation holding a lati in his hand, did his best to
>  further divide the citizens in to communes on language and faith. All along
>  the Marata great fuedal lord, minister for agriculture and king of sports
>  body with billions to control all, had secret parleys to divide the commune
>  votes of maratis, and the sufferer in all this game is reflected with death
>  of a marati manoos by a stone thrown at him !
>   So, is freedom of speech available to invoke violence to Abu and Raj who
>  were media hyped into celebrities overnight, that centre had to send para
>  military forces for the drama of arrest and bailing out. ? Is this
>  democratic working of the system where citizens are scared of goons and the
>  system actively helps to breed such goons in the politics of the nation and
>  governance. ?Apologetic words of a CM of a state, that police arrested the
>  culprits and CM has no role in the arrests is atbest a reflection of an
>  impotent ruler who has no courage to own acts of prosecution of evil
>  criminals. ?
>   Regards,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Lawrence Liang" <lawrence at altlawforum.org>
>  To: "ARNAB CHATTERJEE" <apnawritings at yahoo.co.in>
>  Cc: <reader-list at sarai.net>; <shuddha at sarai.net>; "Jeebesh Bagchi"
>  <jeebesh at sarai.net>
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:53 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Free expression for a Muslim Traitor-Alien
>  orHindubetrayers?
>
>
>  > Hi Arnab and Jeebesh
>  >
>  > The doctors have given me permission to take a quick break from this
>  > very painful vasectomy to clarify and add a legal point; There is a
>  > clear distinction in the constitution between Art. 19 (freedom of
>  > speech) and Art. 21(right to life), and while Art 21 is available to  to
>  > all persons, Art. 19 is only available to citizens, which means  that
>  > non citizens do not have the same claim that citizens can in the case
>  > of  free speech, and hence do not have access to same remedies either.
>  >
>  > In any case i read jeebesh's posts as not making a legal argument but
>  > urging us to move beyond the rather narrow conceptual  frame of liberal
>  > legality, and explore the possibilities of a wider set of cultural
>  > resources through which we can think of hospitality, and again not as
>  > candy floss virtue ethic but as   forms of life
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Lawrence
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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