[Reader-list] are these nationalists

Asit asitreds asitredsalute at gmail.com
Sun Jan 20 13:56:12 IST 2008 

dear all
given the magnitude of voilence in gujrat this is no justice until modi
himself is not punished
asit


On 1/19/08, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Fatima Ji ,
>
> NamaskAr
>
> If you would have read my mail without any prejudice , you would have
> observed that I had written that atleast few people have been *CONVICTED*
> in
> Gujarat.
>
> Muslim ruled Kashmir has created a history that no killers have been
> convicted so far , and those Islamic fanatics have been responsible for
> kilings of Hindus to start with.Ironically the killers like Yasin Malik is
> being compared with Gandhi by *intellectuals* like you .
>
> God Bless
>
> Regards
>
> Pawan
>
>
> On 1/19/08, S.Fatima <sadiafwahidi at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> >
> > Do you really think the justice has been served in
> > Gujarat? And no one's living in concentration camps
> > any more?
> >
> > And this number of Kashmiri pundits killed... you
> > folks always come up with a different number.
> > Sometimes one of you says 3000, then 8000, then
> > 40,000. Please decide it for once. I am not making fun
> > of this - I know all the pain and suffering someone
> > gets, but lets make a mockery of things by hurtling
> > stones at each other.
> >
> >
> > --- Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > At least 6 years after the Gujarat riot , which
> > > started after some
> > > fundamentalists burnt alive scores of Hindu Pilgrims
> > > returning from Ayodhya
> > > , few people were convicted.
> > >
> > > Compare it with the case of Kashmiri Pandits , even
> > > after 18 years , not
> > > even a single person has been convicted in Kashmir
> > > for killing of more than
> > > 3000 Kashmiri pandits . Not to talk of rape and
> > > arson against this
> > > community.
> > >
> > > For that reason that the state is ruled by
> > > camouflage Islamic fundamentalist
> > > and Islamic groups are in majority.
> > >
> > > When will the justice be served to Kashmiri Pandits
> > > ? At least in Modis
> > > gujarat ....it has been served.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/18/08, S.Fatima <sadiafwahidi at yahoo.co.in>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Friends
> > > > Look at these two news items for what's being
> > > > discussed on this list right now:
> > > >
> > > > 12 convicted in Bilkis Bano rape case
> > > > 18 Jan 2008, 1710 hrs IST,PTI
> > > > MUMBAI: Twelve persons, including a police
> > > official,
> > > > were convicted by a special court here on Friday
> > > in
> > > > the Bilkis Bano gang-rape case related to the
> > > > post-Godhra communal violence in Gujarat.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/12_convicted_in_Bilkis_Bano_rape_case/articleshow/2711484.cms
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > 'Modi gave us a free run to do whatever we wanted'
> > > > 26 Oct 2007, 0101 hrs IST,TNN
> > > >
> > > > NEW DELHI: "We made a complete rocket launcher
> > > here...
> > > > We distributed so many weapons, people were
> > > shocked.
> > > > We'd make them here and then test them."
> > > >
> > > > Here are some more such shocking 'testimonies':
> > > >
> > > > Suresh Richard, an accused in the Naroda Patiya
> > > > episode in which over 200 Muslims were officially
> > > > estimated to have been killed, said on camera that
> > > > Modi visited the locality the same evening,
> > > February
> > > > 28, and thanked the perpetrators of the violence
> > > > saying, "Aap dhanya ho... (You are blessed)."
> > > >
> > > > Rajendra Vyas, a senior VHP functionary who was on
> > > the
> > > > Sabarmati Express that was set on fire in Godhra,
> > > > said, "The Muslims had played a one-day match with
> > > > us... They have given us a target of 60... We have
> > > to
> > > > win this match at any cost, so don't stop till you
> > > > have made 600 runs... Modi gave us a free run to
> > > do
> > > > whatever we wanted... The police were with us..."
> > > >
> > > > Babu Bajrangi, a Bajrang Dal activist who has been
> > > in
> > > > the news for blocking the carnage movie Parzania
> > > from
> > > > being screened in the state, revealed that police
> > > > commissioner P C Pande, who has recently been
> > > moved
> > > > out of the DGP's post by the Election Commission,
> > > had
> > > > ordered that the 700-800 dead bodies at Naroda
> > > Patiya
> > > > be clandestinely picked up and dumped all over
> > > > Ahmedabad.
> > > >
> > > > "The commissioner came that night and said that if
> > > > there were so many dead at one place, it would
> > > create
> > > > trouble for him... After killing them, I felt like
> > > > Maharana Pratap... We killed at will, turned the
> > > place
> > > > into Haldighati."
> > > >
> > > > Key witness in the Godhra case, Ranjitsingh Patel,
> > > a
> > > > petrol pump employee who deposed that he had sold
> > > 140
> > > > litres of petrol to the accused on the eve of the
> > > > Sabarmati episode, admits that he and his
> > > colleague
> > > > were both paid Rs 50,000 each by Noel Parmar, the
> > > > chief investigating officer.
> > > >
> > > > "Noel saheb gave me fifty thousand, showed me a
> > > > photograph and said I had to identify him." Two
> > > BJP
> > > > members, Murli Mulchandani and Kakul Pathak, who
> > > > claimed to be eyewitnesses to the Godhra attack
> > > and
> > > > identified many of the accused, admit they were
> > > not
> > > > even at the station that fateful day.
> > > >
> > > > Mulchandani said: "I wasn't at the station, I was
> > > > sleeping at home. But the police put me among the
> > > > witnesses." Pathak said, "The police gave all the
> > > > names. None of the eyewitnesses wrote their
> > > > statements. The police did."
> > > >
> > > > Arvind Pandya, the government's counsel in the
> > > ongoing
> > > > proceedings before the Nanavati-Shah Commission
> > > > probing the carnage, said that the accused had
> > > nothing
> > > > to fear from either of the retired judges.
> > > "Nanavati
> > > > is a clever man... He wants money... Of the two
> > > > judges, Shah is intelligent... woh anpe wala hai
> > > (he
> > > > is our man)... he is sympathetic to us... Nanavati
> > > is
> > > > after money."
> > > >
> > > > Bharat Bhatt, a public prosecutor, said that he
> > > was
> > > > shielding the Hindu accused even as he was
> > > supposed to
> > > > be arguing against them.
> > > >
> > > > "I tell all the Hindus not to smile when they see
> > > > me... not to say a word to me. I tell them that I
> > > will
> > > > scold them if they do so... Sometimes I deceive
> > > > them... I scare them but later show my affections
> > > > too..."
> > > >
> > > > In the Gulbarg Society massacre, accused Madan
> > > Chawal
> > > > gives a first-hand account of how former Congress
> > > MP
> > > > Ehsan Jafri was hacked limb by limb and burned. He
> > > > says Jafri offered them money in return for his
> > > life.
> > > > "We said yes. When he came out, we took the money
> > > and
> > > > pounced on him."
> > > >
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