[Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?

[chanchal malviya]

Muslims always paint picture of Kashmir that Muslims face problem there..
I have asked many questions and no one answers...

Who is creating problems in Pakistan (is it Hindus).. Dear friends, Kashmir is no less then Pakistan..
Kashmir is more than 95% Muslim... The story ends here... Whatever is happening in Kashmir is due to the Faith In Quran.. that is all...

As far as few years back history is concerned - It is Hindu women (in thousands) they have been kept Captive and used in Harem by Muslims... Senior Muslim officers of Army demand for those women... and even the Muslims concept of Jannat is all about enjoying women... Let me not quote now on this...

Hindus have been massacred (no riots, no reaction - only action and proaction by Muslims).. as Quran asks them to do this... Let me not again quote here...  though if challenged, I will quote heedlessly...

There is enough abuse to Hindus... The tolerance shown has no value... The only value Muslims hold is the false notion that God has told them to kill... and they all worship the every-killing and terrorised God...

We are happy with our Idols, which are ideals in variations... If one ideal is not agreeable, there is yet another... Diversity is basis of existence.. and Hindus have practiced unity over diverstions in true reality...

This might be a scrap and old for some... For me, that is what is the true nature of India...

Let the Muslims now first talk about Terrorism.. let them first demand Afzal  before talking on Modi.. let them first accept India as their motherland... 
Only then, the secularism would meet its purpose...


----- Original Message ----
From: Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com>
To: "radhikarajen at vsnl.net" <radhikarajen at vsnl.net>
Cc: reader-list <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 3:31:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?

lets not communalise the kashmir scene with talking about pandits and
muslims what is imporatnt is kasmiriyat ant the national liberation of
kashmir it is a occcupied territory of both pakistan and india we make a big
scene about pandits what about thousands of kasmiri youth killed by the
indian army the tortures the rapes and the natinal indignination of kasmir
its not a question of hindus or muslims but the colonisation of kasmir by
india and pakistan

asit


On 1/20/08, radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
>
> Same is the case when Theesta and the likes with "secular" media claim
> "thousands of " muslims bucthered in Gujarath, but who bothers about truth
> when one can get saudi riyals to defend the traitors of the nation with
> highly paid "criminal" lawyers. ?
> In riot both hindus and muslims loose their beloved, many lives are lost,
> but this has origin in creating the Pakistan and then not encouraging the
> indian muslims to go the land and nation they created for faith, after
> promising to live in India like brothers to their society. ?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wali Arifi <waliarifi3 at gmail.com>
> Date: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
> To: reader-list <reader-list at sarai.net>
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> >
> >
> > Last two decades of turbulence in Kashmir have taught us many
> > lessons. One
> > being that there is always a tendency to exaggerate figures when
> > it comes to
> > human loss.
> >
> >
> >
> > But accuracy is always useful, and doesn't reduce the loss. In
> > fact accuracy
> > adds to the dignity of those who have suffered the loss. In essence
> > multiplying figures is reflective of a tendency to take refuge in
> > propagandaand cloth the truth with it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr Durrani in his post has said: "….for killing of more than 3000
> > Kashmiripandits. Not to talk of rape and arson against this
> > community."
> >
> >
> > I wonder where this figure of "3000" has come from? What is Mr Durrani
> > trying to prove or achieve by multiplying the number of killings?
> > Is he
> > helping the community by exaggerating the figure?
> >
> >
> >
> > According to the Jammu and Kashmir government, 208 Kashmiri
> > pandits were
> > killed in the state from 1990 to 2006.
> >
> >
> >
> > It has to be understood that multiplying figures is dangerously
> > counterproductive for those who call themselves as the champions and
> > custodians of the interest of Kashmiri Pandits. Forget about the
> > use of
> > words like genocide, holocaust, pogrom, ethnic cleansing and so on...
> >
> >
> >
> > Kashmir's history will be written by those who have dreamed of a 'just
> > Kashmir'.
> >
> >
> >
> > Let it be asked to Mr Durrani... Is he writing history, or trying
> > to create
> > it to suite a program that translates 'democracy' into what it has
> > actuallybeen in all practice... **Majoritarianism.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Wali
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