[Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?

Mon Jan 21 10:54:35 IST 2008

You are absolutely correct now Mr. Krishna..
Kashmir was never a Hindu region...  It was only before Mughal invasion..

And I don't understand... Do you know what Lord Krishna has preached in Geeta... What he himself did...
You don't understand the depth of your own name..
Give me chance and I will let you know

(If you are not a dummy Hindu here)...

----- Original Message ----
From: Krishna Chaithanya <tulunadu at hotmail.com>
To: Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>; Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com>
Cc: reader-list <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:55:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?

"It is a historical fact that Kashmir has been intolerant towards hindus since last almost 1000 years and there have been more than 8 major exodus ofKashmiri pandits ".

Does that mean that Kashmir was never a Hindu Country...!? What are you saying Pawan?

KC

> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:43:38 +0530
> From: pawan.durani at gmail.com
> To: asitredsalute at gmail.com
> CC: reader-list at sarai.net
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
> 
> Dear Mr Asit ,
> 
> I just wanted to clarify that the word Kashmiriat was used very cleaverly by
> Kashmiri Muslim leaders to hide the atrocities on Kashmiri Hindus.
> 
> It is a historical fact that Kashmir has been intolerant towards hindus
> since last almost 1000 years and there have been more than 8 major exodus of
> Kashmiri pandits .
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pawan Durani
> 
> 
> On 1/20/08, Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > lets not communalise the kashmir scene with talking about pandits and
> > muslims what is imporatnt is kasmiriyat ant the national liberation of
> > kashmir it is a occcupied territory of both pakistan and india we make a
> > big
> > scene about pandits what about thousands of kasmiri youth killed by the
> > indian army the tortures the rapes and the natinal indignination of kasmir
> > its not a question of hindus or muslims but the colonisation of kasmir by
> > india and pakistan
> >
> > asit
> >
> >
> > On 1/20/08, radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Same is the case when Theesta and the likes with "secular" media claim
> > > "thousands of " muslims bucthered in Gujarath, but who bothers about
> > truth
> > > when one can get saudi riyals to defend the traitors of the nation with
> > > highly paid "criminal" lawyers. ?
> > > In riot both hindus and muslims loose their beloved, many lives are
> > lost,
> > > but this has origin in creating the Pakistan and then not encouraging
> > the
> > > indian muslims to go the land and nation they created for faith, after
> > > promising to live in India like brothers to their society. ?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Wali Arifi <waliarifi3 at gmail.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:58 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
> > > To: reader-list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Last two decades of turbulence in Kashmir have taught us many
> > > > lessons. One
> > > > being that there is always a tendency to exaggerate figures when
> > > > it comes to
> > > > human loss.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But accuracy is always useful, and doesn't reduce the loss. In
> > > > fact accuracy
> > > > adds to the dignity of those who have suffered the loss. In essence
> > > > multiplying figures is reflective of a tendency to take refuge in
> > > > propagandaand cloth the truth with it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mr Durrani in his post has said: "….for killing of more than 3000
> > > > Kashmiripandits. Not to talk of rape and arson against this
> > > > community."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I wonder where this figure of "3000" has come from? What is Mr Durrani
> > > > trying to prove or achieve by multiplying the number of killings?
> > > > Is he
> > > > helping the community by exaggerating the figure?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > According to the Jammu and Kashmir government, 208 Kashmiri
> > > > pandits were
> > > > killed in the state from 1990 to 2006.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It has to be understood that multiplying figures is dangerously
> > > > counterproductive for those who call themselves as the champions and
> > > > custodians of the interest of Kashmiri Pandits. Forget about the
> > > > use of
> > > > words like genocide, holocaust, pogrom, ethnic cleansing and so on...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kashmir's history will be written by those who have dreamed of a 'just
> > > > Kashmir'.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Let it be asked to Mr Durrani... Is he writing history, or trying
> > > > to create
> > > > it to suite a program that translates 'democracy' into what it has
> > > > actuallybeen in all practice... **Majoritarianism.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Wali
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