[Reader-list] Kashmiri Pandits protest against Amnesty International

Fri Jan 25 20:16:37 IST 2008

Ah dear Murtaza,
the word Bashir Asrar and Bijbehara has opened a flood gate of memories,
thanks a ton for that...
ur name was mentioned to me by quite a few friends here and Kashmir....
but,  please do a favour , just send me a profile photo. i would celebrate
looking at it

thanks for reading some of my comments.....
i guess, we are unfortunately surrounded by rightwinged arguments, which i
find, quuite shallow... that is why....most of us have enven branded the
erestwhile liberals as right wingers....so what to do....

i guess, we need to quite frank with our our judgements, and be honest to
declaring that we know little about this and that.... why to be hard.

but i know that is the struggle, so be in touch

with love,
inder salim

On Jan 24, 2008 7:31 PM, Kashmir Affairs <kashaffairs at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Dear Inder Salim,
> Greetings!
>
> I have read few notes and posts from u around various groups with pleasure
> and interest. Keep u the good the work.
> Just out of curiosity I wanted to know what do u do these days. I remember
> meeting u nearly two decades back in Bijbehara with a book printed by Bashir
> Asrar which contained some of ur sketches.
> I am Bijbehara as well, though i haven't lived there for quite a long
> time.
>
> khudayes hawal,
> Murtaza Shibli
>
> *inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> On Jan 22, 2008 11:55 PM, inder salim wrote:
> > Dear Arifi, Dear Ajay
> >
> > Rasul chu zanith deen te mazhab rokh te zulf chaen
> > Kav zani kayah gov kufu te islam nigaro
> > Your face and your hair. That is all I know about different forms of
> > Religion. How come, I am expected to know what is Islamic or what is
> > un-islamic. ( Rasool Mir- poet Kashmir
> >
> > Your face and your hair: Kashmiri Pandits and Kashmiri Muslims,
> > although in contrast, but they belong to one language, one poet, one
> > unique civilization: a singularity.
> > Kashmiri Muslims yearn for " a just Kashmir" in contrast to Kashmiri
> > Pandits who want " a just India's Kashmir" Right!
> >
> > I believe, this whole conflict is embedded in the desire… how to utter
> > the inner core of the respective beings involved.
> >
> > Both the parties, by now, need to realize that it is a long drawn
> > conflict, so they need to sustain, and see who is outwitting the
> > other, if they are truly into the game of language. Both of them can
> > engage their beings into that 'Kasheer thing' deeply, if there is a
> > inner need to enter that Aag ka darya hai aur doob kay jana hai.
> > Needless to mention that all actions finally translate into to signs
> > and help us to generate other sings and symbols and future actions,
> > and therefore, language with capital L. Language is not a dry subject;
> > there is blood in it. Just see how we read history, and how easily we
> > get so involved. All I want is a serious involvement, and not a
> > sentimental one.
> >
> > How to say the same thing that does not seem out of place. Words tell
> > us the secret of this and don't tell us, even.
> >
> > " .. that the imagination depends on words. Words complete our
> > fantasies, fill in their gaps, support their inconsistency, prolong
> > them, enrich them with what cannot be seen or touched" Jean Paul
> > Sartre.
> >
> > I personally appreciate any effort that rips the word, because,
> > language is out there to be treated as vegetable or a chicken under
> > the knife. One can be thousand times wrong grammatically but one can
> > not be shallow or trivial. There is nothing sacred or profane in the
> > word, it in-it-self yearns for a bolder approach, a passionate
> > penetrator.
> >
> > Here, Faiz, in fact never abandoned the romantic or the political
> > even. One can see that "Your face and your hair in his poem
> > simultaneously. Can we too do it. That is a challenge ?
> > If I don't seem drifting too far, I believe, Meera had something to
> > with Socrates. Not only because they had to drink poison in the end
> > but they had a unique power to outwit the establishment. Meera mingled
> > with the other and the popular and lifted it to the heights of
> > metaphysical and so did secretes when he said while drinking hemlock "
> > now I see my face merging with the mask " There was intense political
> > hidden in both, besides that personal " Knowthyself".
> >
> > with love
> > inder salim
> >
> >
> > On Jan 21, 2008 7:48 PM, Wali Arifi wrote:
> > > Mr A of ARKP,
> > >
> > >
> > > Never rest till you "rights" are recognised!
> > >
> > > Until the "killings" and "purging" of your community are not
> recognised as
> > > "genocide, holocaust" etc etc etc whatever you may want it to be...
> > >
> > > There must be hope in the Amnesty.
> > >
> > >
> > > Keep up the good work!
> > >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > Wali
> > >
> > > On Jan 18, 2008 12:35 AM, Aditya Raj Kaul wrote:
> > >
> > > > Kashmiri Pandits protest against Amnesty International
> > > >
> > > > *New Delhi*
> > > > *A worldwide initiative of the Kashmiri Pandit youth "Roots In
> Kashmir"
> > > > protested against the international human rights group Amnesty
> > > > International
> > > > on the occasion of 60th anniversary of Universal Declaration of
> Human
> > > > Rights
> > > > on Sunday.*
> > > >
> > > > *The group accused Amnesty of being biased in their human rights
> reports
> > > > in
> > > > the last two decades on the issue of Kashmir and Kashmiri Pandits.*
> > > >
> > > > *"It has just failed to come to our rescue; Amnesty has failed to
> rise to
> > > > the occasion wherein it could have played a greater role in raising
> the
> > > > issues connected with the Kashmiri Pandit exodus," said a group
> member.*
> > > > **
> > > > *Read detailed story, pictures and more at -
> > > > http://www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com/*
> > > > **
> > > > *Thanks*
> > > > *Aditya Raj Kaul*
> > > > *New Delhi*
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