[Reader-list] 'Tolerant Kashmiris': An editorial in Etalaat

Pawan Durani pawan.durani at gmail.com
Sat Jul 5 12:20:35 IST 2008


And you seem to have a monoploly of fiction.

On 7/5/08, Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् <mail at shivamvij.com> wrote:
>
> You mean to say they HAVE published accounts? You mean to say they are
> NOT collecting  in the name of donations? I mean, I went to Baltal
> yesterday and saw the 'donation' receipts and all, spoke to a lot of
> people... but you seem to have a monopoly on facts
>
> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > If only you know the facts , Mr Jor Na Less Stick.....
> >
> > On 7/5/08, Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् <mail at shivamvij.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Actually the ISI refused to finance my trip because Pakistan is not
> >> taking any interest in Kashmir. Separatists here are both surprised
> >> and relieved that PTV did not pay attention to the mass uprising. So
> >> my employers were forced to finance my trip. Would you like to look at
> >> the bills and accounts? You might also wants to ask the Shri Amarnath
> >> Shrine Board, in the same vein, to publish their accounts. As a Hindu
> >> I demand to know how they have been spending the money they collect
> >> from Muslim (Gujjar, Kashmiri) ponywalas and tentwalas, which they
> >> collect as compulsory taxes but show as voluntary donation. Oh and the
> >> 20 years old Vaishnu Devi Shrine Board has never published its
> >> accounts either...
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:57 PM,  <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> >> > Hi, Shivam,
> >> >
> >> >     who is financing your stay in Srinagar, it looks like you are
> being
> >> > held hostage with good food and your thoughts are that of a hostage
> talking
> >> > good about his kidnappers.! By the way I hope you are guest of Gulam
> nabi or
> >> > Mufti as both are known spin doctors who use the bakras like you.?
> >> >
> >> >  Regards.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् <mail at shivamvij.com>
> >> > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008 8:53 pm
> >> > Subject: [Reader-list] 'Tolerant Kashmiris': An editorial in Etalaat
> >> > To: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> >> >
> >> >> Tolerant Kashmiris
> >> >> 26 June, 2008 08:10:48
> >> >> http://www.etalaat.net/english/viewpoint/editorial/1111.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Vested interests are all out to communalize the on-going agitation
> >> >> against transfer of forest land to the Amarnath Shrine Board. Time
> and
> >> >> again it has been made clear that the on-going agitation is not
> >> >> against the Yatra or the Yatries. The agitation is against
> >> >> politicization of the Yatra. Kashmiris want the government to entrust
> >> >> the job of conducting and facilitating Yatra to the local people who
> >> >> have been conducting it effectively since 1860.
> >> >>
> >> >> To understand the on-going agitation against land transfer in its
> >> >> right perspectives one has to look into the history of Kashmir.When
> >> >> important decisions concerning the future of Kashmir were taken
> >> >> Kashmiris were always ignored. In 1947 a decision was imposed on the
> >> >> reluctant people and since then the trend continues. In early 60s the
> >> >> government of India omitted Article 238 from Indian constitution and
> >> >> thus rendered article 370 infructious. The Article 370 which
> >> >> guarantees a special status to the state of Jammu Kashmir reads: "Not
> >> >> withstanding any thing nothing in Article 238 shall apply to the
> state
> >> >> of Jammu Kashmir." Article 370 is still there but article 238 which
> >> >> contained the heart and soul of 370 is not there in the constitution.
> >> >> Kashmiris to this day do not know about this fraud.
> >> >>
> >> >> Similarly the government of India abolished the permit system which
> >> >> required the non-state subjects to obtain a permit for entering the
> >> >> state. Again the people were not taken into confidence.  In 1975 a
> >> >> popular movement was strangled. Again the people did not protest. In
> >> >> 1978 the draconian public safety act (PSA) was framed. People did not
> >> >> protest. In 1984 TADA was extended to the state. People remained
> >> >> silent. The Gulmarg issue shook them and the transfer of land did the
> >> >> miracle. Even this time the government had taken the people for
> >> >> granted.
> >> >>
> >> >> People are angry but they have not thrown caution to the winds. They
> >> >> have upheld the high traditions of tolerance and have not harmed any
> >> >> Yatri or a tourist. This is exactly what Islam teaches them. The
> >> >> Yatries are welcome and so are the tourists. Kashmiris are known for
> >> >> their hospitality and they will not disappoint the pilgrims and other
> >> >> guests.
> >> >>
> >> >> History is witness to the fact that Kashmiris have always protected
> >> >> their non-Muslim brethren.  Hundreds of instances can be quoted to
> >> >> prove the point. However, the following incident shall suffice. A
> >> >> person who retired as the Chief Conservator of Forests lived in
> >> >> Shahr-e-Khaas during his college days. One day while on his way to
> the
> >> >> college he was intercepted by a crowd. Taken for a Bakra (A supporter
> >> >> of Mirwaiz Yusuf Shah) he was given  sound thrashing. Somehow he ran
> >> >> away but only to be caught by another violent group. This time he was
> >> >> taken for a Sher (Supporter of Sheikh Abdullah) and beaten to pulp.
> >> >> Again he managed his escape. When caught for the third time, he
> >> >> shouted: "I am a Pandit." Nobody touched him this time. He was given
> >> >> safe passage.
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