[Reader-list] Amarnath row reignites Azadi sentiments

Tue Jul 8 10:35:06 IST 2008

Shivam ,

Pls verify your facts again . And if you want i may eductae you more on
Panun Kashmir and how it not only for Pandits but for free flow of Indian
constitution in a would be union territory.

Pawan

On 7/7/08, Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् <mail at shivamvij.com> wrote:
>
> Inder,
> Pawan is not interested in grass but blood. He seems to suggest that
> Kashmir's grass is soaked exclusively with Hindu blood, and the
> Muslims are happily enoying their picnic on that grass, and the grass
> has no Muslim blood. In fact Pawan went to Kashmir, the part which
> Panun Kashmir wants as Pandit zone, and did DNA tests on the grass and
> has successfully established that Muslim blood never touched it.
> best
> shivam
>
> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:29 PM, inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:
> > dear pawan ji
> >
> > it looks u are interested in the GRASS only
> >
> > i too once had a deep facination of the grass, but time move and i see
> > there are other things too which can intoxicate
> >
> > love
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:03 PM, inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> now POLITICALLY, i see, THERE IS A DEEP MISTRUST BETWEEN HINDUS AND
> >> MUSLIMS OF JAMMU AND KASHMIR AND YET THERE IS SO MUCH OF TRADE,
> >> FRIENDSHIP AND HARMONEY AT THE GRASS ROOT LEVEL...but politics seems
> >> to win in the ends, sadly....
> >>
> >> now since this sharp divide has come to the fore, i find this an
> >> opportunity to doubt the existence of the God.... i dont personally
> >> want a debate on that.... but we can atleast behaves like SCEPTICS...
> >> that might perhaps give us a chance to realize the minds of saints
> >> poets and wise people in the past and in the present...if that had not
> >> happened they too might not have been there..... even prophets and
> >> gods have come to to earth because they had the courage to doubt ...
> >>
> >> i guess it is this doubt that gives us the idea of universal love....
> >> strong belief in this or that might finally harm our own undertanding
> >> of the self...
> >>
> >> choice is ours
> >>
> >> with love
> >> inder salim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> And the Jammu news doesnt appeal to the born slaves.
> >>>
> >>> On 7/3/08, Shuddhabrata Sengupta <shuddha at sarai.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Shivam,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for your reports from the valley. They help us get a
> >>>> clearer image of the situation and what people are thinking and
> saying.
> >>>>
> >>>> best
> >>>>
> >>>> Shuddha
> >>>> On 03-Jul-08, at 8:33 PM, Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > [As published this morning]
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Amarnath row reignites azadi sentiment
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Shivam Vij / Srinagar
> >>>> > Sakaal Times / 3 July
> >>>> > http://epaper.sakaaltimes.com
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The writing on the wall is clear: The Kashmiri demand for
> independence
> >>>> > from India is not over yet. Separatist leaders and commoners alike
> >>>> > have hailed the withdrawal of the land transfer order as the victory
> >>>> > of the Kashmiri people and called to revitalise the azadi movement.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > This is clearly a turning point in the 20-year-old militant
> struggle.
> >>>> > There is also talk of boycotting the coming assembly polls and
> >>>> > reunification of the two factions of the Hurriyat Conference. The
> mood
> >>>> > was reflected in every local daily's frontpage headlines. PEOPLE
> WIN,
> >>>> > said Greater Kashmir. Kashmir Savours Victory, said the Kashmir
> >>>> > Observer. Kashmir win, said Amroze Kashmir. VICTORY! said Etalaat.
> >>>> > People win, Order revoked, said Kashmir Monitor.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The emphasis that it was a people's agitation rather than one of
> >>>> > leaders is shared by everyone. The sentiment is shared by every taxi
> >>>> > driver, shopkeeper, houseboat-owner, journalist — too widespread
> >>>> > to be
> >>>> > brushed away as anybody's political gimmick. The agitation was lead
> by
> >>>> > the ACALT committee which had, apart from Hurriyat leaders,
> apolitical
> >>>> > religious leaders, representatives from trade and transporters'
> >>>> > organisation's, the Kashmir Chambers of Commerce and the Bar
> Council.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Vehement support was given by the Valley's Sikhs and most Kashmiri
> >>>> > Pandit organisations as well. The biggest winner is Hurriyat leader
> >>>> > Syed Ali Shah Geelani, who was the first to begin mobilising the
> >>>> > public with a signature campaign. In a press conference on
> Wednesday,
> >>>> > he emphasised: "This punctures New Delhi's theory that our movement
> is
> >>>> > standing on Pakistani support," he said, adding, "did you see a
> single
> >>>> > agitator using violence?" "The movement lives on in the hearts and
> >>>> > minds of the people," he told Sakaal Times.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The relatively smooth rule of the PDP-Congress coalition and the
> >>>> > decline in militancy had led observers to believe that people's
> >>>> > participation in polls could increase. "Nobody will vote now," said
> >>>> > Etalaat editor Zahiruddin. In fact NC's Omar Abdullah is believed to
> >>>> > have said as much to the NSA in his meeting with him in Delhi.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > "Mainstream politicians in the Valley who believed the movement was
> on
> >>>> > its deathbed have got a rude jolt," he said. "This is very
> unpleasant
> >>>> > for the Indian government and intelligence agencies who were already
> >>>> > talking of a postconflict scenario," says human rights activist
> Parvez
> >>>> > Imroz.
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