[Reader-list] Scuffle near Hazratbal; Shabir Shah among 14 injured

[Rahul Asthana]

Hi Inder,
Your position of "not believing in nationalism" is typical of many on this list.I am not arguing for nationalism against anarchy. I do not think there is anything noble in being a nationalist \patriot. But I do realize the utilitarian value of the concept of nation.Anyhow, lets for a while assume that your idea of "not believing in the nationalism" is the way to go.
What do you suppose we should do now? Organize an Indo-Pak concert where someone will sing "Imagine there's no country" or perhaps Sayonee by Junoon and then everyone will start hugging,kissing and dancing kumbaya with each other, halwa poori or nihari\paya will be distributed and all will go home and live happily ever after. Is that likely to happen?
A while back,when I was making the argument that sovereign Kashmir is not a feasible state(for reasons that I had given earlier),the arguments I got in response was that I was not romantic enough,I had a diseased mind, Kashmir is too beautiful to stay occupied etc etc.. Then there was the usual "I dont believe in nationalism".
Your dislike of nationalism may be  the principle around which you frame your argument but THAT STATEMENT, BY ITSELF CAN NOT BE YOUR ARGUMENT.If you can build any realistic and pragmatic course of action around that principle then you should forward it.Just chanting this mantra of  "not believing in nationalism",is neither here nor there and would make you irrelevant.Till the time that nation states are a reality you cant just ignore them or wish them away.

Regards
Rahul

--- On Tue, 7/8/08, inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Scuffle near Hazratbal; Shabir Shah among 14 injured
> To: reader-list at sarai.net
> Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 12:39 AM
> dear kshmendra
> 
> for now, all i want to say is that i am not for any kind of
> nationalism.... i dont know what that will lead to, i think
> it will be
> perhpas better for  humanity, if nation states disappear
> suddenly and
> enable people to move freely on this planet earth....
> 
> i have a dream, you may say it is utopian... so what.
> 
> desire for nation is not bad, i have huge admiration for
> people like
> Bhagat Singh, but the the powers sturctures that cling on
> the that
> state in the name of democracy or people is fradulent. Now
> dont tell
> me that we helpless to not-to-see-the-other
> 
> it is interesting to notice how people's simple faith
> gets translated
> into something necessary costly rituals... say prem
> chand's Govdaan,
> .. . i see misery for the innocent lot, and for that i have
> every
> right to undermine, a state, a religion or an
> identiy....and once it
> becomes a system that gnaws the dignity  existential core
> of human
> being,..... i want to restore that
> 
> one is free to remain glued to something as long as it
> keeps on
> milking other's cow. that is why i talked about morals
> and ethics.
> 
> now see, there is a great democracy in america and england
> but when i
> comes to their foreign affairs they looks barbarians....
> and i dont know how to admire their democratic systems 
> endlessly if
> there is no change.... right now, everyting is stuck,
> 
> just see, what their democracies did to afganistan and
> iraq.   i have
> more respect for a poor afgani who
> has no choice but to shoot alongwith a taliban commander
> and work in
> poppy fields in comparison to some one who is drinking beer
> in new
> york while criticizing muslim fundamentalism....
> 
> in that sense, i have nothing against politics, but against
> the
> polticians who are at the helm of affairs.....as jean paul
> sartre says
> that politics enters through all the pores of your
> body,....and
> realization of that  sensitizes me, realization of that
> reduces my
> arrogance, and i think that is how i want to understand
> politics,
> 
> and that way i know what is the meaning of GAME in
> politics.... now you that....
> 
> now religion, i believe,
> the state has no business to enter the affairs of the
> shrine.... why
> on earth state should provide facilites to a piligrim...
> a true piligrim has to be really prepared , both physically
> and mentally....
> and above all, SHIVA i believe is about death also... you
> might be
> knowing, there is a mountain , just one stop before the
> amarnath cave
> which is called Bhairav Baal, and it was famous for real
> piligirms to
> climb it and jump on the other side of it....a true love of
> shiva will
> be quite educated and brave and should understand the
> significance of
> death and sprituality in one go...
> 
> i still dont understand how a shiva lover can throw stones
> at others,
> or burn a tyre, if one goes by the kashmiri philisophy of
> shivaism
> well you are within your rights to call it politics, but i
> see decadence in it
> 
> at the best it is opportunism, and once it is so, it is
> free for all,
> 
> once we realize the absence of morals and ethics in our
> political
> acitivity, we are at the mercy of goons and the politicians
> who love
> to make a fool of each one of us.
> 
> about disrespect, just show me one communtiy, at grass root
> level, in
> the world history which not suffered humiliation at the
> hands of their
> rulers.
> that is why i am not interested in those who eulogise kings
> and queens
> for this or that.... people have suffered, even when a
> great king was
> constructing a Taj mahal or making a great wall in china,
> same goes
> for the construction of great temples and mosques.......i
> see pain of
> a human being in the form of an monument, beauty of it
> comes next....
> 
> that way i see the possibity of a shift in histroy, that
> way we can
> see the emergence of a new politics, a new way of living,
> beyond
> mindsets and old designs , old territories....
> 
> my dear, that muse on the classical canvas died long
> ago.... we are
> finished with waste land even, we have come to a stage when
> even
> writing a poem is impossiblity....
> 
> politics is dead in that sense...the issue is ethics,
> environment, and
> my favourite word  'love' is kicking alive,
> 
> with love and regards
> is
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Kshmendra Kaul
> <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Dear Inder Salim
> >
> > You say "i know you know well what i am talking
> about...."
> >
> > No Sir I do not. Either we are talking about different
> things or it must be the limitations of my understanding.
> >
> > It must also be the limitations of my being able to
> express myself that you read meanings other than what I
> think I have placed in my words.
> >
> > - I ddear o not know what "GAMES" you are
> talking about. If you explain them in simple words, I might
> be able to comment
> >
> > - I spoke about "respect" for
> "constancy" in "political positions".
> That could or could not translate into "respect"
> for the person. That also does not preclude the ones being
> talked about being political adversaries or being enemies
> of my country
> >
> > - Let me give another example.  I see China as being
> (if not an enemy these days) inimical towards India on many
> fronts. Yet I have immense respect for China in many
> spheres.
> >
> > - Let me give another example. I see Pakistan as
> continuing to be an enemy of India. I have no respect for
> (I have contempt for) Pakistan's shifts over Kashmir
> especially in the context of it's duplicity with the
> "Hurriyat Pasand". Yet there are things about and
> from Pakistan I love. I love their Muslin and Men's
> Shalvaar Kameez, I love Mehdi Hassan and Nayyara Noor and
> Sabri Brothers, I love Faiz and Parveen Shakir and Amjad
> Islam Amjad
> >
> > - Saw your list of those you respect. I have no
> argument with you over that list.
> >
> > - You do not respect 'politicians'. For me
> that is too generalised a statement. Maybe I would not
> respect "some" or even "most"
> politicians" but the political system is essential (in
> my opinion) to any organised society. Irrespective of the
> form of Government or quality of Governance, every country
> has a political system. It has to have one. If there
> isn't one, there will be anarchy.  In the case of a
> "democracy", the politician is of critical
> importance to the citizen. The Constitution allows Laws,
> Laws take shape from Legislation, Legislation is enacted by
> Legislators, Legislators are Politicians. Every aspect of
> the quality of life in India (for example) is directly or
> indirectly affected on and effected by the Politicians. You
> may be dismissive of Politicians if you want to be. For me
> Politicians are extremely important entities to be
> evaluated and sieved in one's judgement.
> >
> > - I am a firm believer that my final societal identity
> is the Passport I hold or am eligible for. All Inter- Nation
> interactions including those of their citizens are
> conditional to the Laws of each country. Yes I am a firm
> believer in 'nationalism'. I subscribe to Indian
> Nationalism. You perhaps are more tuned (correct if I have
> misheard the strains) into Kashmiri Nationalism. Only the
> forces of Nature respect no National Boundaries. All other
> aspects of our lives are linked to the country we belong to
> (because the Laws of the country govern every other aspect
> of our lives). Actually the Laws of a Country can even
> interfere with the reign of Nature, which is when
> Environmental Concerns take centre-stage.
> >
> > - Is the "Kashmir issue" about "Ethics
> & Morals"? Perhaps it is to some degree in some
> areas. I see it more as being about "Rights and
> Responsibilities" and even more so as being
> "Political" and about "Religion"
> >
> > - You speak about the Kashmiri "Muslims"
> having been disrespected.  I do not understand that
> judgement. Perhaps you might elaborate on how the
> "Muslims" of Kashmir have been
> "disrespected".
> >
> > - You speak about the SASB affair having
> "undermined the sensitivity of ....  Muslims".
> Again I do not understand how SASB affair is linked with
> "Kashmiri Muslims". Unless of course you yourself
> subscribe to the view that the SASB affair was one of
> Muslims against Hindus.
> >
> > (By your pointed reference to "Muslims" you
> seem to be in agreement with me that the "Kashmir
> Issue" is about "Religion")
> >
> > - You speak about " 1990 disrespect to kashmiri
> pandits" being about "ethics and morals".
> Perhaps it is to some extent. I see it more as a Political
> affair. I see it more as failure of governance (both at the
> Centre and State) in having allowed a "fear
> atmosphere" to develop.
> >
> > At least in this mail I see the point that you are
> trying to make. Correct me if I understood wrongly. You
> state that you "know" what you should
> "respect" and seem to suggest I do not
> "know". Fair enough. You are entitled to your
> judgement.
> >
> > Kshmendra
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 7/7/08, inder salim
> <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Scuffle near Hazratbal;
> Shabir Shah among 14 injured
> > To: reader-list at sarai.net
> > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 7:00 PM
> >
> > Dear kshmendra
> >
> > i quote myself
> >
> > and once we are finished with these games.... only
> then we can begin
> > to talk about ETHICS and MORALS
> >
> > it is again your choice to ignore the most important
> line of my last
> > post... i dont feel insecure ....
> >
> > i know you know well what i am talking about....
> >
> > now see, you take a position with regard to
> 'Respect',
> > you respect, i dont know whethere with capital R or
> with small r, but
> > u respect the politicians who are against the
> occupation of indian
> > foreces in kashmir.but strangely in the next line you
> think that they
> > are enemies of the indian state and you are Indian,
> right .
> > i
> > on the contrary i dont respect a politican, ....... i
> have respect for
> > a poet, a musician, an ariist, a social worker a
> simple worker, a job
> > less man frustrated by the indiferent state. i respect
> a poor man on
> > the road side, i respect a tribalman  who is contantly
> being driven
> > out of his ecology ,
> >
> >  i respect millions of landless people in india.... i
> have respect for
> > the womens rights, i repect you has a human being and
> in that sense i
> > respect a politician even.
> >
> > yes, i respect the morals and ethics, more than being
> a nationalist
> > merely as an identity tag....i respect rebels...... i
> respect my
> > teacher AK Mir who publically slapped Mufti Mohd Syed
> in Bijbehara
> > because he as a Congress pradesh president
> masterminded 1986 communal
> > riots.... i respect a petty theif who threw shit on
> the judge in delhi
> > because he was languishing in the jail and could not
> afford to bail
> > himself out.
> >
> > i have respect for the courage.... and similarly i
> have respect for
> > those who uphold their existential beings wheenver the
> state or the
> > power structures openly supress and disrespects the
> ethics and morals
> > of the other....
> >
> > that is why kashmir issue is about ethics and morals
> as well.....
> >
> > that is why the land transter to shrine board
> undermined the
> > sensitivity of the already disrespected kashmiri
> muslims...
> >
> > that is why 1990 disrespect to kashmiri pandits is
> also about ethics
> > and morals as well..
> >
> > i see human being through this prism of ethics and
> morals ... i mix
> > love with it and see some possiblity to heal the self
> and the other at
> > the same time..i may fail in the end because plolitics
> is exercised
> > quite ruthlessly in india and abroad.... but i dont
> regret about my
> > position.
> >
> > at least i  know what i should respect
> >
> > with love
> > inder salim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Kshmendra Kaul
> <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Dear Inder Salim
> >>
> >> I wish I had understood what point you were trying
> to make.
> >>
> >> What I did notice is your quoting me partially and
> out of context and then
> > using that to put a spin on my words so that you could
> indulge in innuendos and
> > make judgements about me.
> >>
> >> I was talking of having respect for the
> 'constant political
> > position' of people whoever it may be. Geelani was
> an example for the sake
> > of comparing with (what I see as) hypocritical
> declamations of the
> > "moderate" Hurriyatis (especially Umar
> Farooq) and their claims of
> > their brand of the "Hurriyat" call being a
> 'secular' one. It
> > is called 'munaafaqat'.
> >>
> >> Just to explain it further, I similarly have
> respect for the 'constant
> > political position' of Yasin Malik in that he
> wants (or used to want) the
> > erstwhile princely State of Jammu & Kashmir to be
> an Independent Country
> > with it's territories freed from both Indian and
> Pakistani control. Again I
> > say this at the risk of being lynched by my KP
> brethren. Yasin, in proclaiming
> > his having eschewed violence was foolish enough to
> admit that he (and/or JKLF)
> > had previous to that indulged in 'killings'
> >>
> >> I disagree with both positions, of Geelani and
> Yasin, but that does not
> > stop me from acknowledging their constancy.
> >>
> >> Inder you talk about my 'positions' but
> you obviously have no idea
> > of what they are. You only presume.
> >>
> >> Anyone who seeks to disturb the peace in my
> country India is for me an
> > enemy of the nation. Anyone who seeks to break-up
> India or bring in violent
> > divides between it's people is for me an enemy of
> India. They should be
> > recognised as, dealt with and treated as enemies.
> Before your make another
> > presumption, the 'recognising', 'dealing
> with' and
> > 'treating' as enemies neither automatically
> means nor is suggested by
> > me should be done by repressive means or incarceration
> or State Violence.
> >>
> >> The affiliations of these 'enemies' are of
> no importance. They
> > could be from Hurriyat Conference, or JKLF or RSS or
> VHP or Bajrang Dal or SIMI
> > or any other organisation.
> >>
> >> Kshmendra
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, inder salim
> <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Scuffle near Hazratbal;
> Shabir Shah among 14
> > injured
> >> To: reader-list at sarai.net
> >> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 11:39 PM
> >>
> >> Dear Kshmendra
> >>
> >> I quote you, "but I have much more respect
> for the constant political
> >> position of someone like Hurriyati hardliner Syed
> Ali Shah Geelani"
> >>
> >> just read your statment again and remember when
> Syed Ali Shah Geelani
> >> too said similar about RSS.  He really dislkes
> anything secular
> >> because a religous stand is logical for both
> Geelani sahib and for
> >> RSS. anything else is ambigous
> >>
> >> now i quote you again,  "It has amused me
> more to see how easily the
> >> likes of Umar Farooq, Prof Abdul Ghani Bhat,
> Shabbir Shah (and other
> >> Hurriyat 'moderates') are able to fool
> people into buying their
> >> 'secular' credentials"
> >>
> >> just remember when Atal Behari Vajpayee wrote a
> poem about the sad
> >> demolition of Babri Mosque...The words moistened
> the eyes of the
> >> naive, but we knew how crocodile weeps... you also
> know it well
> >>
> >> now i know there are positions, well you are
> within your rights to
> >> hold one ... that is ok
> >>
> >> i just met a kashmiri pandit who was demonstrating
> at jantar mantar
> >> today.... and i sarcastically congratulated about
> the news  KASHSMIR
> >> PANDITOON NAY TODFOD KI, ( riots by kashmir
> pandits ) It is perhaps
> >> for the first time i heard about such a news. He
> understood and
> >> replied quickly... " if we dont resort to
> thes acts who will listen
> > to
> >> us, we are politically  irrlevant  in the present
> political
> >> situation.... we need to read these situations
> quickly, and we do it
> >> from time to time. "
> >>
> >> now see how their brother is  the valley do the
> same things for their
> >> own survial.  for example PDP, who need to
> something from time to time
> >> to stay in relevant in the volatite politcal games
> being played in the
> >> valley..... what is so wrong about it  if
> everything else is not.
> >>
> >> and once we are finished with these games.... only
> then we can being
> >> to talk about ETHICS and MORALS
> >>
> >>
> >> till then  best
> >>
> >> inder salim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Kshmendra Kaul
> > <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Dear Sonia
> >>>
> >>> There is nothing surprising in the religious
> place Hazrartbal being
> > the
> >> start-point for the 'victory' rally. It
> only reinforces the
> > evaluation
> >> that the 'victory' was sought by one
> religion over the other. For
> > those
> >> who achieved the 'victory', what better
> place to start the
> > celebration
> >> than a Shrine/Mosque.
> >>>
> >>> Our 'secular' commentators may spout
> various theories and
> > analyses
> >> but those who were a part of that
> 'victory' were obviously honest
> > about
> >> what they had achieved and in the name of which
> religion.
> >>>
> >>> Whether it has been the 1931 'bread
> movement' or the intense
> >> rivalry between the 'sher' (of Sheikh
> Abdullah) and
> > 'bakra' (of
> >> Maulvi Farooq) or the Hurriyat
> (freedom/separatist) movement, the pulpits
> > of
> >> both Hazratbal and Jama Masjid have been used as
> much for political
> >> speeches/sloganeering and calls for separatism as
> they have been for
> > religious
> >> sermons.
> >>>
> >>> It has always amused me to see Umar Farooq (as
> just one example among
> >> others) indulge in such political
> speeches/sloganeering from Jama Masjid,
> > or
> >> visit and seek support from his Political Mecca of
> OIC (and/or Pakistan)
> > and
> >> yet at the same time hypocritically claim that the
> "Hurriyat"
> >> movement is a secular one.
> >>>
> >>> It has amused me more to see how easily the
> likes of Umar Farooq, Prof
> >> Abdul Ghani Bhat, Shabbir Shah (and other Hurriyat
> 'moderates')
> > are
> >> able to fool people into buying their
> 'secular' credentials.
> >>>
> >>> My Kashmiri Pandit brethren might lynch me for
> saying this, but I have
> >> much more respect for the constant political
> position of someone like
> > Hurriyati
> >> hardliner Syed Ali Shah Geelani (even if I
> disagree with his arguments)
> > who is
> >> firm in his belief that J&K as Muslim Majority
> 'territory'
> > should
> >> be a part of Pakistan.
> >>>
> >>> I am sure you did not mean to equate the
> situations but I found it
> > strange
> >> that you mentioned in the same breath the
> "peaceful... victory
> > rally"
> >> starting from Hazratbal with "siege of Hazrat
> Bal in the early
> > '90s or
> >> for that matter the siege of Charar e-Sharif in
> '95 or
> >>> for that matter the Golden Temple in the
> '80s".
> >>>
> >>> In all three 'siege' mentioned, there
> were bands of armed
> >> terrorists holed up inside the three religious
> places. Some might choose
> > to
> >> call them 'freedom fighters' or
> "Mujahideen".
> >>>
> >>> Kshmendra
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Sat, 7/5/08, S. Jabbar
> <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> From: S. Jabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Scuffle near
> Hazratbal; Shabir Shah among
> > 14
> >> injured
> >>> To: "Shivam Vij शिवम्
> विज् "
> >> <mail at shivamvij.com>, "sarai list"
> >> <reader-list at sarai.net>
> >>> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:07 PM
> >>>
> >>> I think you may want to ask why it was
> necessary to begin a victory
> > rally
> >>> from a religious place and how any of us would
> have reacted if Advani
> > were
> >>> to embark on another 'victory' rally
> from Somnath or Ayodhya.
> >> These
> >>> so-called victory rallies will only add fuel
> to the Jammu-Kashmir/
> >>> Hindu-Muslim conflagration.
> >>>
> >>> Hazrat Bal and the Jama Masjid are not neutral
> sites and have been
> >>> politically charged ever since the 1930s when
> the Quit Kashmir
> > movement
> >> was
> >>> launched against the Maharaja.  What must have
> started off as an
> > equally
> >>> 'peaceful' gathering turned violent
> and a man was killed.
> > That
> >> was
> >>> reason
> >>> enough for mass rioting.  You may be aware of
> the siege of Hazrat Bal
> > in
> >> the
> >>> early '90s or for that matter the siege of
> Charar e-Sharif in
> > '95
> >> or
> >>> for
> >>> that matter the Golden Temple in the '80s.
> >>>
> >>> The Hurriyat is not unaware that the state
> cannot risk a religious
> > site
> >>> becoming another site of contestation.  It
> would try and control what
> > in
> >> all
> >>> likelihood would turn into yet another
> communally charged and violent
> >> event.
> >>> And yet it decided to go ahead.  The stakes
> are high and I really
> >> don't
> >>> think anyone is above using religion to
> further their political ends.
> >>> --sj
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 7/5/08 12:43 PM, "Shivam Vij
> शिवम्
> > विज्"
> >>> <mail at shivamvij.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This is what happens when you prevent
> people from addressing
> >>>> peaceful
> >>> gatherings...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> o o o o
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Scuffle near Hazratbal; Shabir Shah among
> >>>> 14 injured
> >>>
> >>> Special Correspondent, 5 July
> >>>> 2008
> >>>
> http://www.hindu.com/2008/07/05/stories/2008070559931300.htm
> >>>
> >>> The clash
> >>>> followed prayers to celebrate the
> "victory" in the land
> >> transfer
> >>>> issue
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> SRINAGAR: Senior Hurriyat Conference leader
> Shabir Shah was among
> >>>> 14
> >>> people injured on Friday, following a scuffle
> between police and
> >>> supporters
> >>>> of separatist leaders after they offered
> prayers at the
> >>> Hazratbal shrine to
> >>>> celebrate the recent "victory"
> in the land
> >>> transfer issue.
> >>>
> >>> The call for
> >>>> "Hazratbal Chalo" was given by
> Syed Ali Geelani, head of
> >>> a faction of the
> >>>> Hurriyat Conference and supported by
> Mirwaiz Umar
> >>> Farooq, head of another.
> >>>> However, both were placed under house
> arrest
> >>> by the police. Mr. Shah and other
> >>>> leaders, however, reached Hazratbal
> >>> amid heavy deployment of police and
> >>>> paramilitary CRPF and offered
> >>> prayers besides addressing the people.
> >>>
> >>> Mr. Shah
> >>>> and Ashraf Sehrai, another senior leader
> denounced the
> >>> government for putting
> >>>> Mr. Geelani and Mr. Mirwaiz under house
> arrest.
> >>>
> >>> A protester hurls back a tear
> >>>> smoke shell towards the police.
> >>>
> >>> On their way back, Mr. Shabir Shah, Mr.
> >>>> Sehrai, Naeem Khan, Sheikh
> >>> Aziz, Shafi Reshi, Firdous Shah and others led
> a
> >>>> strong procession,
> >>> which was lathi-charged.
> >>>
> >>> Fourteen people, including Mr.
> >>>> Shabir Shah, were injured. He was
> >>> shifted to the S.K. Institute of Medical
> >>>> Sciences (SKIMS) for
> >>> treatment.
> >>>
> >>> Even as rumours spread that he was critical,
> >>>> Director SKIMS Abdul
> >>> Hamid Zargar told The Hindu that he was
> stable. Another
> >>>> procession
> >>> taken from Jamia Masjid and led by the head
> imam, was dispersed
> >>>> by
> >>> police with smoke shells. Many people were
> arrested. Another
> >>>> Hurriyat
> >>> leader Javed Mir was arrested when he tried to
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> >>>> procession
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