[Reader-list] IIM RESERVATION: Kozhikode Shows The Way

[Tapas Ray]

Dear Ranjith,

 > 1) I also second the question of language. but not in the vein of
 > prabhakar. The language of counter culture will always be offensive to
 > the oppressors.

Which culture is being countered on this list, and by whom?

Who are the oppressors on this list? Who are they oppressing, and how?

What is the nature of the "counterculture"? Who are its bearers on this 
list? What is their claim to this status?

> 2) the silent revolution happening in Indian society s testimony to it. 
> look beyond the caste-blinded satvik 'selves" ... any one can see it/

"Governmentality" is a technical term. Once again, how does it apply to 
Ambedkarite reservation policy? What is the rationale for this claim?

What is the nature of the "silent revolution"?

What is the "satvik" self? Which members on this list have that type of 
self, and what are your reasons for believing this? Who is caste-blinded 
here, and what is the basis of that conclusion? What is the nature of 
your own self, and what are your reasons for believing this to be the case?

Best,

Tapas


> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tapas Ray <tapasrayx at gmail.com>
> 
> 1. I second Prabhakar's comment on the language of these posts.
> 
> 2. I think the list would benefit from an explanation of the notion
> that Ambedkarite reservation policy uses "governmentality" to counter
> upper-caste monopoly (incomplete as it has been) in education, jobs,
> etc.
> 
> Tapas
> 
> 
> 2008/7/26 Ranjith Thankappan <ranjit_hcu at yahoo.co.in> 
> 
>  > Perhaps u r talkng abt political reservation. That too was contextual.
>  > How could the venom of brahminsm (not brahmins) be completely washed 
> away within a decade? if we cant cure it even after this many years, it 
> d be foolish to think of curing it within 10 years. one needs to 
> annihilate it, as rightly put forth by Ambedkar.
>  > The caste/cultural capital of "upper" castes have made social 
> reservation for them. It still continues. Ambedkarite reservation policy 
> uses govermentality to counter it and therby transform various cultural 
> spheres into a democratic and inclusive one. And it was along with 
> Ambedkar that Dalits of this country declared; "We wont die as Hindu". 
> It s history.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----
>  > From: Prabhakar Singh <prabhakardelhi at yahoo.com 
>  >
>  > Ambedkar had made a very cautious  provision for reservation only for 
> initial 10 years for only very limited section of the society.But now it 
> is perpetual for the divisive vote-bank politics and about to touch 100% 
> as per increasing demands from different sections of the society.We 
> should learn from what Nelson Mandela has done in South Africa to bind 
> and integrate different sections of the society there.
>  > It will better if we can have a semblance of respect for one-another 
> and refrain from  using insulting and derogatory words in this forum 
> whatsoever may be the difference in opinion.It is the difference in 
> opinion which keeps this forum alive by  generating useful discussions 
> enlightening us in the process.Moderator of the forum may kindly look 
> into this aspect and stop such abusive e-mails from circulation and 
> maintain some kind of decency,respectability and discipline.
>  > Prabhakar
>  >
> 
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