[Reader-list] G world, words, Ajay and Raju

[kirdar singh]

Dear MRSG
It is you who is trying to push this fictitious story down our
throats, so why don't you take a little pain and tell me the exact
name of the book, its author, publisher, page number etc. where you
found those stories. And your source better be authentic.

Kirdar


On 3/4/08, MRSG <mrsg at vsnl.com> wrote:
> Mr. Kirdar Singh, how do you know MRSG is a hindu? What I have written on
> Muhammad (marrying own adopted son's wife and Ayesha's affair in the desert)
> is quite well known.  Muhammad's marriage to his adopted son's former wife,
> Zaynab bint Jashplease can be found in any standard text on this subject.
> How Ayesha got lost in desert and then to clear her up from charges,
> Muhammad got a new revealation - these are well discussed issues. Please
> take a little pain to find those.
> Thanks
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kirdar singh" <kirdarsingh at gmail.com>
> To: "inder salim" <indersalim at gmail.com>; <mrsg at vsnl.com>; <vivek at sarai.net>
> Cc: <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gandu world, words, Ajay and Raju
>
>
> Dear Vivek
> I have been following some of your mails. Its interesting to note that
> some ordinary emails coming to your inbox go into the "Bullshit"
> folder, while the literal bullshit goes into the ordinary folder, and
> you even come to defend it. What's bullshit for MRSG is vlaueable for
> you and vis a versa.
>
> Look I have no problem with the intention of Inder Salim's story - I
> don't need a justification for it. I appreciate the collective past
> and the ontology and so on. But I do have a problem with the language
> and symbolism. You won't care to react to it but I take MRSG's
> following phrase very seriously:
>
> "Everytime one Salim starts like this, it will be replied like this."
>
> Now I know Inder Salim will not care to clarify to MRSG what his
> religious identity is, or the fact that he is neither a Muslim nor a
> Hindu (and I respect and appreciate that). But are you happy about the
> fact that your posting has been simply misunderstood by someone as a
> "provocation by a Muslim" and it naturally has to be replied with a
> further provocation to all Muslims. The entire internet is full of
> such provocative and abusive debates between Hindus and Muslims.
> Inder, you mentioned rabid communalization in your rejoinder (which
> you are against), but isn't your original post (due to its sheer
> creative language) leading to further rabidity (unless you clarify).
>
> But I think that's what most of us don't want to do - we do not want
> to simplify and straighten our communication since it would no longer
> be creative. All the problems of this world (which you have mentioned,
> Inder) need clarifications, dialogue, clearing of misunderstandings
> first. Art and black humour can come later. That's my opinion - you
> may disagree.
>
> Kirdar
>
> (and by the way, MRSG, could you specify a source from which you got
> the "history" about Muhammad and his indulgences)
>
>