[Reader-list] Fwd: Sanjay Kak on Ram Guha's Book

Sun Mar 9 12:27:35 IST 2008

  I attach here a news article written by one Mir Tariq about Kak's recent
screening in Jamia where he was taken to task for his biased views by common
scholars. Kak again spoke lie to the media...here read it...

Jashn-e-Azadi generates debate in New Delhi

  *Mir Tariq*
New Delhi, Feb 22: The screening of Sanjay Kak's 2 hours and 19 minutes
documentary film Jashn-e-Azadi (how we celebrate freedom) generated a heated
debate among the scholars in Jamia Millia Islamia (JMI) University here on
Saturday.
Despite the censorship setback in many states, the film was screened by the
AWAM-a group of a religious and a political scholar in Delhi on 22 Feb 2008,
in the seminar hall of History Department JMI, where hundreds of students
and scholars participated and discussed the film with its director Sanjay
Kak
Jashn-e-Azadi is an unsettlingly subdued documentary about the daily
struggle of Kashmiris. The  film is at its most effective when juxtaposing
scenes of the Kashmiri people enjoying their coveted land of paradise with
footage of Indian troops maliciously assaulting the homes of innocent,
leaving entire villages in ashes.
The most effective scene in the film is the figures of the first-ever"
survey of conflict related deaths in Kashmir.
The survey reveals that at least 100,000 Kashmiri youth have died in past 18
years of turmoil while 10,000 are missing and presumed dead. The troopers
admit that 5000 of their men too have died in the conflict.
Apart from two Kashmiri scholars who were on the side of Kak, almost all the
other scholars  present there criticized Kak for making Jashn-e-Azadi and
accused him of being a fan of separatist leaders' like Sayed Ali Shah
Geelani and Yasin Malik

"The film lacks research.  The Kashmir Pandits have not been covered in the
film who have faced lot of hardships during the turmoil" said Janvi, a
History Scholar from JMI.
Another scholar from the same department said, "The film is biased as the
director has covered only the atrocities and killings by Indian Army and has
not exposed the killings carried out by militants"
Meanwhile a Kashmiri scholar Saleem Jahangir advocated the empiricism of
Jashn-e-Azadi and made sound arguments to drive home his point about the
Kashmir issue. The other students who were unaware about the ground
realities of Kashmir argued with Jehangir. At last he said, "Come what may
be the background of the issue, the bottom line is that the common man is
suffering irrespective of class, creed and caste," Saleem Jahangir added.

While speaking to the audiences Sanjay Kak said "I am not the fan of any
Kashmiri separatist leader, they are doing their work in the same as army is
doing its duty in Kashmir."

*"During the film making I approached the various Pandit families but due to
lack of authenticity I was not able to present their real picture."*
*

*While answering the question on the problems Kashmiri Pandits, Kak said
"The migration of Kashmiri Pandits is a among the main issues of the Kashmir
conflict, but it needs to be studied and scholars should come to make
research in this field."
Sanjay Kak, a Kashmiri Pandit, is an independent documentary film-maker
whose film Words on Water (2003) on the anti-dam movement in the Narmada
Valley in Central India has been widely screened in India and abroad,
including at film festivals in Durban, Hong Kong, Locarno and Turin.

On 3/9/08, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Pawan,
>
> These people don't have answers to our questions; they only know to argue
> and identify problems with each and every thing without identifying the
> right solution.
>
> I very well remember on the very first screening of Kak's film where his
> master sahab Yasin Malik was the chief guest; how his father had supported
> our protest; not only he but many others present. Kak obviously was
> embarassed for a few minutes.
>
> Kak won't speak in this forum. I know atleast of that. He is busy on a
> mission to spread hatred; be it in Jamia, DU or Gorakhpur.
>
> Kak's insecure nature is very well evident; as he always speaks about
> nothing to with Pandits in all his screenings. And, everywhere he is taken
> to task. Not just by Pandits; but even others including Muslims.
>
> May God give Kak and his blind supporters some sense.
>
>
>  On 3/9/08, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Asit ,
> >
> > Youn would be perfectly right if you would question "Who is Pawan
> > Durani?"
> > for I may be as unknown to you as Sanjay Kak ( Monalisa With A Beard )
> > is to
> > Kashmir and Kashmir issue.
> >
> > Ask the bearded Monalisa did he have answers to the arguments ? The only
> > time he fely happy has been Gorakhpur festival where the reason for his
> > happiness was that no one asked him about Pandits .
> >
> > And that served what he wanted .
> >
> > For us , the Kashmiri Pandits, he has been a traitor and let Sanjay kak
> > admit in this Form , that even his parents are not happy with him.
> >
> > Partha : I forgot to tell you that the bearded Monalisa is the member of
> > this Forum.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Pawan Durani
> >
> >
> > On 3/8/08, Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > dear friends
> > > there has to be some grace and decency in public debates name calling
> > > is juvenile and obscene as if all the  redears list debaters are nobel
> > > prize winners stooping down to the personal under the belt  and
> > > disgraceful attack on sanjay kak i ask who is pawan durani
> > > any one conscious on social issues knows that sanjay kak is a bold
> > > film maker who exposed indian states genocide in kashmir
> > > asitOn 3/6/08, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Dear Partha ,
> > > >
> > > > Let me just ask "Who is Sanjay Kak ?"
> > > >
> > > > Being honest months before the release of some fiction movie called
> > > :Jashn -
> > > > Kashmir " or something like that , i had a querry from a well known
> > > lobyist
> > > > enquirying about Mr Kak. I pleaded my ignorance.
> > > >
> > > > And I still dont want to know him , for he has tried to do the
> > largest
> > > > damage to a victimised community called Kashmiri Hindus.
> > > >
> > > > Having said that , i still would like to challenge his knowledge on
> > > Kashmir
> > > > , and would like to have a public , academic and intellectual debate
> > > with
> > > > him. He may bring in his guests like Yasin Malik to support him.
> > > >
> > > > Last time he met Rashneek at Green Park , he just pleaded ignorance
> > > about
> > > > History.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Pawan Durani
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/6/08, Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Dhatri,
> > > > >
> > > > > a) As far as Kashmir is concerned, neither Sanjay Kak nor Aditya
> > nor
> > > > > Pawan
> > > > > are
> > > > > loving there. That's precisely why Aditya & Pawan are talking
> > about
> > > > > being
> > > > > dispossesed and the pain of not living there.
> > > > >
> > > > > b) Sanjay Kak depicted his point of view as an artist / film
> > maker. If
> > > > > anyone disagrees
> > > > > they are welcome to make their viewpoint heard. He has merely
> > depicted
> > > > > one part
> > > > > or view of a status as he sees it.
> > > > >
> > > > > c) Neither of the above points have anything to do with the
> > current
> > > > > debate.
> > > > > If you feel
> > > > > that there is a lack of veracity in the current debate that is on,
> > > > > please respond to
> > > > > specific portions with your own references.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rgds, Partha
> > > > > ..................................
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:04 PM, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The logic is pretty simple and reachable. Sanjay kak produce
> > false
> > > > > > facts these people including Sanjay kak knew that they are
> > > > > false. Sanjay
> > > > > > kak is not a living being of Jammu and Kashmir like Pawan and
> > > > > Aditya,.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com>* wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Aditya,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's a bit like asking who's Pawan or Aditya or, for that
> > matter,
> > > > > > Partha.
> > > > > > None of us on this list know each other yet we still have the
> > > > > intellectual
> > > > > > honesty to look clearly at a point of view and debate it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who Sanjay Kak is does not matter. What matters is his point of
> > > view,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > you disagree with it, why?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rgds, Partha
> > > > > > .................
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good One Pawan. :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why is an "Intellectual Forum" namely Sarai geting into a
> > > discussion
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > review written by just another person ? Pawan asks rightly,
> > Who is
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > Sanjay Kak ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > Aditya Raj Kaul
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 3/5/08, Pawan Durani wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Joke of the day : Kak's review comes like a breath of
> > > honest,fresh
> > > > > > air.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sanjay Kak and being Honest ........I saw snow on Mumbai
> > streets
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 3/5/08, Namrata Kakkar wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dear everybody,
> > > > > > > > > Having read Sanjay Sub's wrong but
> > > > > > > > > back patting, ridiculous review on the SARAI list, I
> > > > > > > > > was just wondering how could readers at Sarai list
> > > > > > > > > tolerate such nonsensical bribery, blind eye
> > > > > > > > > stupidity. Kak's review comes like a breath of honest,
> > > > > > > > > fresh air. But couldn't Sanjay Sub. himself raise
> > > > > > > > > these questions? Infact anybody a bit literate enough
> > > > > > > > > would tear this book into shreds; but Sanajy could not
> > > > > > > > > do so since Ram Guha is now a new promoter in the
> > > > > > > > > Indian circles--mustering and manipulating crores of
> > > > > > > > > rupees through his (i.e, Indian) Arts Foundation. Ram
> > > > > > > > > guha is a man with book length muscles now.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So even if he continues writing this bull
> > > > > > > > > shit, he will be a Sanjay's public historian ( like
> > > > > > > > > men love public woman ( sorry). One wonders if he too
> > > > > > > > > is aspiring a 50,000 rupees felllowship from Ram Guha.
> > > > > > > > > He may...
> > > > > > > > > But anyway, thank you SARAI.
> > > > > > > > > Namrata
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php
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