[Reader-list] Sanjay Kak on Ram Guha's Book

TaraPrakash taraprakash at gmail.com
Mon Mar 10 18:58:05 IST 2008


I am sorry, you are not making any sense to me.
Come to the point. What is your argument?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Asit asitreds" <asitredsalute at gmail.com>
To: "Pawan Durani" <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
Cc: "TaraPrakash" <taraprakash at gmail.com>; "reader-list" 
<reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Sanjay Kak on Ram Guha's Book


class caste and gender difference is a lived reality in india one
doesnt  need a specialist knowledge to know this common truth and
common sense this applies to kashmir also
asit

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> well is a universal reality this a very common knowledge and commonsense
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>  > Asit ,
>  >
>  > Before you speak more on Kashmir and compare why Moti Lal Nehru sent 
> Jawahar
>  > Abroad for education , you should be atleast aware when that family 
> migrated
>  > out of Kashmir.
>  >
>  > Talk on subject where you have enough knowledge , else you make people
>  > laugh.
>  >
>  > Pawan
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On 3/10/08, Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > justasmall rajoinder if everyone is born equal with equal capacities
>  > > how many dalits, landless labourers and poor kasmiris have madr
>  > > significant contribution like kashmiripandits why doesnt every
>  > > kashmiri gets a barrister degree like jawahar lal nehru the reason is
>  > > simple his father moti lal had the money to send him abroad  why is 
> it
>  > > so that only kasmiripandits excel what is the science behind this
>  > > possibly its a super human race my understaing of socities teach me
>  > > only the elites execel because they have the resources to achiving
>  > > exelllence unless we believe in they are super natural i think this
>  > > has to do about the class postion of kashmiri pandits now the last
>  > > query
>  > > who has the copy right to speak about kashmir
>  > > asit
>  > >
>  > > On 3/9/08, TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > > I hope you are not comparing the struggle in Kashmir with that of
>  > students'
>  > > > revolt in France.
>  > > > In Kashmir, there is one more oppressor which has been given a 
> clean
>  > chit by
>  > > > the movie in question. The independent voice has been severely 
> oppressed
>  > by
>  > > > certain Islamic fundamentalist groups. The women have been attacked 
> for
>  > not
>  > > > adhereing to so-called Islamic code almost foreign to Kashmiri 
> culture.
>  > The
>  > > > al-qaeda kind zellots have thrown acid on the faces of women for 
> not
>  > > > covering their face in public. Not only Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists 
> and
>  > > > moderate Muslims have been murdered in the past and very often by
>  > non-state
>  > > > agents.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > > > From: "Asit asitreds" <asitredsalute at gmail.com>
>  > > > To: "Wali Arifi" <waliarifi3 at gmail.com>
>  > > > Cc: "reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>  > > > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 2:40 AM
>  > > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Sanjay Kak on Ram Guha's Book
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > > though ihavent read ram guhas book but sanjay kaks critiqe is
>  > brilliant
>  > > > > the problem with  liberal historiography is the author doesnt 
> take a
>  > > > > stand lets not forget the famous dictum of parisian students in 
> 1968
>  > > > > its important from which position you are speaking from the side 
> of
>  > > > > oppressed or the opressor
>  > > > > in this sense sanjay kak has beutifully deconstructed ram guhas
>  > > > > irresponsible nuetrality
>  > > > > asit
>  > > > >
>  > > > > On 3/5/08, Wali Arifi <waliarifi3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > > >> In continuation of the recent posting of Sanjay Subrahmanyam's 
> review
>  > of
>  > > > >> India after Gandhi: The History of the World's Largest Democracy
>  > > > >> by Ramachandra Guha · Macmillan, 900 pp, £25.00
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> ------------------------------------------
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> A Chronicle for India Shining
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> by Sanjay Kak
>  > > > >> *
>  > > > >> Biblio* July-August 2007
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> Ramachandra Guha is among Indias' most visible intellectuals, 
> and his
>  > > > >> newspaper columns and television appearances mark him off from 
> the
>  > more
>  > > > >> reticent world of academic historians. At 900 pages his new book
>  > India
>  > > > >> after
>  > > > >> Gandhi is not shy of claiming its own space on the bookshelf: 
> from
>  > it's
>  > > > >> title page, where it announces itself as "The History of the 
> World's
>  > > > >> Largest
>  > > > >> Democracy" (not A History, mind you, but The History); to it's 
> end
>  > > > >> papers,
>  > > > >> which tells us that the author's entire career seems in 
> retrospect to
>  > > > >> have
>  > > > >> been preparation for the writing of this book.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> So first the happy tidings from the back of the book: things in 
> India
>  > > > >> (after
>  > > > >> Gandhi, that is) are overall okay. They could be better, he 
> agrees,
>  > but
>  > > > >> for
>  > > > >> now we must be satisfied with what the Hindi cinema comic actor 
> Johny
>  > > > >> Walker
>  > > > >> kept us amused with: phiphty-phiphty. For those hungry for a 
> modern
>  > > > >> historical understanding – or even an argued opinion – on 60 
> years of
>  > the
>  > > > >> Indian Republic, this piece of dissimulation is an early sign of
>  > things
>  > > > >> to
>  > > > >> come.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> There are some notable features of the paths by which The 
> Historian
>  > > > >> arrives
>  > > > >> at this facile and frivolous conclusion of fifty-fifty. The 
> first is
>  > that
>  > > > >> all that is troubling and challenging in the short history of 
> this
>  > > > >> republic
>  > > > >> is co-opted into the nationalistic narratives of 'success' and
>  > 'victory',
>  > > > >> turning our very wounds into badges of honour. "At no other time 
> or
>  > place
>  > > > >> in
>  > > > >> human history" he says, "have social conflicts been so richly
>  > diverse, so
>  > > > >> vigorously articulated, so eloquently manifest in art and 
> literature,
>  > or
>  > > > >> addressed with such directness by the political system and the
>  > media".
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> I can think of at least five issues that have bedeviled India 
> all the
>  > way
>  > > > >> from 1947 which simply fail this assertion: Kashmir, Manipur,
>  > Nagaland,
>  > > > >> Naxalism, and of course, Dalit rights. These are at the head of 
> a
>  > very
>  > > > >> long
>  > > > >> list which seriously challenge Guhas' assertion that the Indian
>  > nation
>  > > > >> has
>  > > > >> been successful at even addressing conflicts, leave alone 
> dealing or
>  > > > >> managing them. I use the word 'successful' here because justice 
> has
>  > not
>  > > > >> even
>  > > > >> appeared on the horizon on most of these fronts.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> Right at the outset of the book he lets us know that the real 
> success
>  > > > >> story
>  > > > >> of modern India lies "not in the domain of economics, but in 
> that of
>  > > > >> politics". So it's not the software boom that he offers for 
> approval,
>  > but
>  > > > >> Indias' political success as a democracy. Politics for him is, 
> in the
>  > > > >> main,
>  > > > >> narrowly defined, and remains the domain of parliamentary 
> politics.
>  > From
>  > > > >> Prologue to Epilogue, Guha vicariously digs out every negative
>  > prediction
>  > > > >> ever made for India's future as a democracy, and then since 
> India has
>  > had
>  > > > >> elections for 50 years, turns it into a vindication of it's
>  > democracy.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> No surprise then, that it's the romance of the Indian elections 
> for
>  > which
>  > > > >> he
>  > > > >> reserves his unqualified enthusiasm. Every General Election 
> since
>  > 1951 is
>  > > > >> celebrated in tourist-brochure speak, so by 1967, elections no 
> longer
>  > are
>  > > > >> a
>  > > > >> "top-dressing on inhospitable soil", they are "part of Indian 
> life, a
>  > > > >> festival with it's own set of rituals, enacted every five 
> years". As
>  > > > >> evidence we are offered statistics of large turnouts, and 
> accounts of
>  > > > >> colourful posters and slogans. By the 1971 polls, the logistics 
> are
>  > > > >> offered
>  > > > >> in giddy detail: "342,944 polling stations, each station with
>  > forty-three
>  > > > >> different items, from ballot papers and boxes to indelible ink 
> and
>  > > > >> sealing
>  > > > >> wax; 282 million ballot papers printed, 7 million more than were
>  > > > >> needed…".
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> To so easily substitute 'election' for 'democracy', to be 
> preoccupied
>  > > > >> with
>  > > > >> the procedural – rather than the substantive¬ – aspects of 
> democracy,
>  > and
>  > > > >> indeed of politics, is conceptually problematic, and not a 
> mistake
>  > any
>  > > > >> serious scholar of politics would make. The obsession with
>  > parliamentary
>  > > > >> democracy, with its first-past-the-post, winner-takes-all bias, 
> also
>  > > > >> means
>  > > > >> that descriptions of India's recent political history remain 
> here
>  > focused
>  > > > >> on
>  > > > >> those in Parliamentary Power, and at best, those in 
> Parliamentary
>  > > > >> Opposition. But when he has to deal with the more fundamental
>  > questions
>  > > > >> raised about Indian democracy from outside of this, by the 
> Naxalites
>  > in
>  > > > >> the
>  > > > >> 1960s, or by Jaya Prakash Narayan and Sampoorn Kranti in the 
> 1970s,
>  > or
>  > > > >> indeed the Narmada Bachao Andolan in the 1990s, Guha seems to 
> lose
>  > his
>  > > > >> way,
>  > > > >> and his enthusiasm for 'politics' is more subdued.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> A second clue as to how he reaches here seems to lie in 
> methodology,
>  > and
>  > > > >> Guha explicitly states his: to privilege primary sources over
>  > > > >> retrospective
>  > > > >> readings, and "thus to interpret an event of, say, 1957, in 
> terms of
>  > what
>  > > > >> is
>  > > > >> known in 1957, rather than 2007". One of the reasons he cites 
> for
>  > this is
>  > > > >> the paucity in India of a good history of India after Gandhi: by
>  > training
>  > > > >> and temperament, he says of Indian historians, they have 
> "restricted
>  > > > >> themselves to the period before Independence". So combine this
>  > ascribed
>  > > > >> lack
>  > > > >> of historical interest with Guhas' own stated preference for
>  > 'primary'
>  > > > >> sources: together they lay out before him a vast – and clearly
>  > > > >> unchallenged
>  > > > >> – canvas.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> This is a curious methodological assertion. With the exception 
> of
>  > some
>  > > > >> primary sources (and some first-time sources, like the PN Haksar
>  > papers)
>  > > > >> the
>  > > > >> bulk of the book seems to draw upon the excellent work of at 
> least
>  > two
>  > > > >> generations of historians and social scientists. The copious 
> Notes at
>  > the
>  > > > >> back of the book happily acknowledge at least some of this to be 
> so.
>  > With
>  > > > >> the work before us of Sumit Sarkar, Partho Chatterjee, Rajni 
> Kothari,
>  > > > >> Tanika
>  > > > >> Sarkar, Yogendra Yadav, Zoya Hassan, Christopher Jafferlot 
> (amongst
>  > > > >> others),
>  > > > >> why does Guha pronounce this area to be a tabula rasa, one that 
> this
>  > book
>  > > > >> alone bravely sets out to fill?
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> Ramchandra Guha's earlier book on Verrier Elwin was proof of his
>  > > > >> dexterous
>  > > > >> use of archival material, and over the years his newspaper 
> columns
>  > have
>  > > > >> been
>  > > > >> rich with his joyful – even eccentric¬ – use of the archive. 
> Here too
>  > he
>  > > > >> locates some nuggets, which its sources may now well want 
> returned to
>  > the
>  > > > >> darkness of the archive. In 1944, the Bombay Plan, mooted by a 
> group
>  > of
>  > > > >> leading industrialists, making a case for 'an enlargement of the
>  > positive
>  > > > >> functions of the State', going so far as to say that 'the 
> distinction
>  > > > >> between capitalism and socialism has lost much of it's 
> significance
>  > from
>  > > > >> a
>  > > > >> practical standpoint'. In 1966, as groups of Mizo National Front
>  > rebels
>  > > > >> appear ready to storm at least two towns in Mizoram, the 
> strafing of
>  > > > >> Lungleh
>  > > > >> by the air force, the first time that air power had been used by 
> the
>  > > > >> Indian
>  > > > >> State against it's own citizens. Or in 1977 India's favourite
>  > > > >> businessman,
>  > > > >> JRD Tata, speaking to a foreign journalist during the dark days 
> of
>  > the
>  > > > >> Emergency, finding that things had gone too far, adding that 
> 'The
>  > > > >> parliamentary system is not suited to our needs'.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> But this history by bricolage inevitably ends up with 
> embarrassingly
>  > > > >> ahistoric conclusions. For example, to bolster his own naïve 
> view
>  > that
>  > > > >> "Rural India was pervaded by an air of timelessness" at the time 
> of
>  > > > >> Independence, he quotes a British official writing in an 
> official
>  > > > >> publication in 1944: 'there is the same plainness of life, the 
> same
>  > > > >> wrestling with uncertainties of climate… the same love of simple
>  > games,
>  > > > >> sport and songs, the same neighbourly helpfulness…" I don't 
> doubt
>  > that
>  > > > >> this
>  > > > >> qualifies as 'contemporary narrative', but surely even within 
> the
>  > > > >> impoverished state of Indian social science that Guha seems to
>  > encounter,
>  > > > >> he
>  > > > >> has heard of enough respectable scholarship, that contests – and 
> even
>  > > > >> confounds – this static image of the "Indian" countryside? The
>  > peasant
>  > > > >> rebellions, the tribal movements, the caste conflicts?
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> What this often results in is a naïve – even absurd – acceptance 
> of
>  > what
>  > > > >> is
>  > > > >> described to us by the privileged 'contemporary narrative'. 
> "Living
>  > away
>  > > > >> from home helped expand the mind, as in the case of a farm 
> labourer
>  > from
>  > > > >> UP
>  > > > >> who became a factory worker in Bombay and learnt to love the 
> city's
>  > > > >> museums,
>  > > > >> its collections of Gandhara art especially". This is no doubt 
> true
>  > for
>  > > > >> this
>  > > > >> exceptional individual, but does this aid our understanding of 
> the
>  > > > >> processes
>  > > > >> of rural deprivation and urbanization that translate into the 
> journey
>  > > > >> from
>  > > > >> village in Uttar Pradesh to textile factory in Mumbai? (And 
> where did
>  > > > >> that
>  > > > >> worker go, refined sensibilities and all, once the textile mills
>  > began to
>  > > > >> shut down in the 1980s?)
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> And when Nehru formally inaugurates the Bhakra dam in 1954, "for 
> 150
>  > > > >> miles
>  > > > >> the boisterous celebration spread like a chain reaction along 
> the
>  > great
>  > > > >> canal…" Because Guha is committed to understanding 1954 in its 
> own
>  > terms,
>  > > > >> we're often left just there, in 1954, without the illuminating 
> oxygen
>  > of
>  > > > >> contemporary scholarship on the Bhakra dam and its consequences, 
> for
>  > both
>  > > > >> the people displaced by the dam (still without re-settlement 50 
> years
>  > on)
>  > > > >> or
>  > > > >> for the land and waters of Punjab (now feeling the ill effects 
> of the
>  > > > >> massive hydraulic meddling and its handmaiden, the 'Green
>  > Revolution'.)
>  > > > >> At
>  > > > >> such moments we must be forgiven for feeling that we are rifling
>  > through
>  > > > >> the
>  > > > >> brittle pages of an official, sarkari history of India.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> Where official archives and histories don't exist, the 
> excessive –
>  > and
>  > > > >> selective –reliance on newspapers and journals seems even less
>  > > > >> convincing.
>  > > > >> Who amongst us has not read the newspaper of the day about an 
> issue
>  > or
>  > > > >> event
>  > > > >> that we know about and understand, and not despaired at the 
> errors
>  > and
>  > > > >> biases inherent? Who amongst us has not shuddered at the thought 
> of
>  > some
>  > > > >> future historian trawling the pages of the Times of India and 
> the
>  > Indian
>  > > > >> Express and forming a narrative of what is happening in India in
>  > 2007?
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> Through the book, Guha's writing on Kashmir, for example, is 
> peppered
>  > > > >> with
>  > > > >> insights from a journal called Thought, apparently published out 
> of
>  > > > >> Delhi.
>  > > > >> Forgive me, but what was Thought? Insights extracted from such
>  > narratives
>  > > > >> can be useful to the historian, but also highly problematic, 
> unless
>  > we
>  > > > >> can
>  > > > >> contextualize them, compare them with other assessments, and
>  > understand
>  > > > >> the
>  > > > >> nature of the biases we are dealing with. Otherwise we are 
> simply
>  > left
>  > > > >> with
>  > > > >> arbitrary assessments of shaky provenance: in1965, of Lal 
> Bahadur
>  > > > >> Shastri,
>  > > > >> second Prime Minister of India, who gets a positive appraisal by 
> the
>  > > > >> Guardian newspapers' Delhi correspondent, as well as a 
> condescending
>  > > > >> exchange of letters between two ex-ICS men: "I can't imagine 
> Shastri
>  > has
>  > > > >> the
>  > > > >> stature to hold things together... What revolting times we live 
> in!"
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> Guhas' selective dependence on 'contemporary' narratives, and 
> his
>  > > > >> distaste
>  > > > >> of politics that is not 'parliamentary' comes through most 
> clearly in
>  > his
>  > > > >> treatment of Jaya Prakash Narayan. He musters the following: RK
>  > Patil, a
>  > > > >> former ICS officer who asks of JP: "What is the scope of 
> Satyagraha
>  > and
>  > > > >> direct action in a formal democracy like ours…? By demanding the
>  > > > >> dismissal
>  > > > >> of a duly elected assembly, argued Patil, the Bihar agitation is 
> both
>  > > > >> unconstitutional and undemocratic". To this Guha adds the 
> opinions of
>  > the
>  > > > >> "eminent Quaker" Joe Elder, who hectors JP on launching a mass
>  > movement
>  > > > >> "without a cadre of disciplined non-violent volunteers". And 
> finally,
>  > > > >> Indira
>  > > > >> Gandhi herself, who dismisses JP as a "political naif… who would 
> have
>  > > > >> been
>  > > > >> better off sticking to social work." With such a slanted set of
>  > > > >> 'contemporary' narratives, it's no surprise who Guha is able to 
> pin
>  > the
>  > > > >> blame on for the tumult of those years, asserting that the 
> honours
>  > for
>  > > > >> imposing the Emergency should henceforth be equally shared 
> between
>  > Indira
>  > > > >> Gandhi and Jaya Prakash Narayan!
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> For the first 600 pages of his chronicle, Guha piles up the 
> bricks
>  > and
>  > > > >> artifacts of this structure sort of chronologically, 1947 
> through to
>  > > > >> 1987.
>  > > > >> Then quite arbitrarily he announces a change in tack, moving 
> from
>  > > > >> 'history'
>  > > > >> to 'historically informed journalism'. He approvingly cites the
>  > > > >> thirty-year
>  > > > >> rule of archives, adding grandly, that as a historian "one also 
> needs
>  > a
>  > > > >> generation's distance. That much time must elapse before one can
>  > place
>  > > > >> those
>  > > > >> events in a pattern, to see them away and apart, away from the 
> din
>  > and
>  > > > >> clamour of the present".
>  > > > >> The claim of 'history' and 'historically informed journalism' is 
> at
>  > once
>  > > > >> too
>  > > > >> strong for either section of the book. Because if indeed the 
> section
>  > from
>  > > > >> 1987 onwards is 'historically informed' then shouldn't history
>  > actually
>  > > > >> inform our understanding? Should this method not prepare us for 
> some
>  > > > >> things:
>  > > > >> the emergence of the non-Congress governments; of Kanshi 
> Ram-Mayawati
>  > and
>  > > > >> the BSP; for Liberalisation and India's relationship with the
>  > > > >> International
>  > > > >> Financial Institutions? Why then does each of these appear on 
> the
>  > horizon
>  > > > >> of
>  > > > >> this book fully formed, with no lead-ins or alerts?
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> The relentless, even plodding attempt at being comprehensive, 
> and the
>  > > > >> dizzying collation of disparate facts, seems to tire Guha out 
> too,
>  > and
>  > > > >> then
>  > > > >> his usually elegant prose begins to flag, and the ideas it 
> carries
>  > become
>  > > > >> tedious, eventually grinding down to a sort-of Year Book listing 
> of
>  > > > >> significant facts and figures, people and events. In a chapter 
> called
>  > > > >> 'Rights' (and which in news-magazine style is followed by 
> sections
>  > called
>  > > > >> 'Riots', 'Rulers' and 'Riches'), a brief 28 pages races us 
> through
>  > Caste,
>  > > > >> the Mandal Commission and Dalit assertion; and an update on the
>  > conflicts
>  > > > >> in
>  > > > >> Assam, Punjab, Kashmir, Manipur, and Nagaland! But wait, there 
> is
>  > also
>  > > > >> demography and gender – in a single paragraph that begins with 
> "there
>  > was
>  > > > >> also a vigorous feminist movement" and then deals with the 
> women's
>  > > > >> movement
>  > > > >> in 15 lines. Tribal rights fares a little better than Women's 
> rights
>  > (or
>  > > > >> perhaps worse, I'd say fifty-fifty): it just crosses a page, 
> much of
>  > it
>  > > > >> about the Narmada Bachao Andolan, where the 18 year old history 
> of
>  > the
>  > > > >> Andolan is reduced to it's leader, "a woman named Medha Patkar", 
> who
>  > we
>  > > > >> are
>  > > > >> told, "organized the tribals in a series of colourful marches… 
> to
>  > demand
>  > > > >> justice from the mighty government of India". And then, "The 
> leader
>  > > > >> herself
>  > > > >> engaged in several long fasts to draw attention to the 
> sufferings of
>  > her
>  > > > >> flock".
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> This is India's most well-known non-violent resistance movement,
>  > engaged
>  > > > >> in
>  > > > >> articulating the largest internal displacement in our recent 
> history,
>  > and
>  > > > >> in
>  > > > >> case you had missed anything, it's her flock. Without prejudice 
> to
>  > either
>  > > > >> Vogue or Cosmopolitan, this condescension could probably never 
> even
>  > make
>  > > > >> it
>  > > > >> to their pages, and defies belief in a work of history written 
> in the
>  > > > >> 21st
>  > > > >> century. Apart from the fact that the NBA is only one of the 
> hundreds
>  > of
>  > > > >> people's resistance movements in India, many of whom are in the 
> front
>  > > > >> ranks
>  > > > >> of the struggle against neo-imperialism.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> Quite early in the book, in assessing the historian KN 
> Pannikar's
>  > > > >> opinions
>  > > > >> of Mao Zedong, Guha reminds us that "Intellectuals have always 
> had a
>  > > > >> curious
>  > > > >> fascination for the man of power". He then puts on display his 
> own
>  > > > >> unseemly
>  > > > >> fascination with Power, with History from Above. (With a few
>  > exceptions,
>  > > > >> even the small selection of haphazardly organized pictures in 
> the
>  > first
>  > > > >> edition of the book seems fixated by the man – or woman – of 
> power,
>  > from
>  > > > >> Lord Mountbatten to Amitabh Bachhan.) This I suppose is 
> symptomatic,
>  > this
>  > > > >> disinterest, even condescension, towards the fragile and 
> powerless,
>  > and
>  > > > >> this
>  > > > >> is what finally prevents his version of history from 
> illuminating our
>  > > > >> times.
>  > > > >> Because the powerless may not always be so, and 'historically
>  > informed
>  > > > >> journalism' would need to tell us what brought Laloo Prasad 
> Yadav,
>  > and
>  > > > >> Mayawati to us. Even what preceded Medha Patkar and the Narmada
>  > Bachao
>  > > > >> Andolan. (What forms of Adivasi and other organization made 
> their
>  > > > >> movement
>  > > > >> possible? And what in its turn did the NBA make possible, not in 
> the
>  > > > >> struggle against large dams alone, but in creating a climate in 
> which
>  > the
>  > > > >> resistance to SEZs can be contemplated today?)
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> For in the privileging of the 'primary', the question is, what 
> are
>  > your
>  > > > >> 'primary' sources? Will they be restricted to the libraries of 
> the
>  > India
>  > > > >> Office, London and the Nehru Memorial, New Delhi, or are they 
> going
>  > to go
>  > > > >> beyond? Will we, for example, look at Urdu papers in Srinagar 
> (and
>  > > > >> Muzafarabad) to understand what was happening in Kashmir from 
> 1947 to
>  > > > >> 1987?
>  > > > >> Will we look at Dalit Hindi language little magazines to 
> understand
>  > the
>  > > > >> phenomenon of Kanshi Ram and Mayawati? Because if we don't do 
> that,
>  > The
>  > > > >> History of the World's Largest Democracy – like the Indian 
> State –
>  > will
>  > > > >> continually be surprised by the events and consequences of the 
> day to
>  > day
>  > > > >> history of the little in this country.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> In the past, however arguable his ideas, Guhas' prose has been 
> highly
>  > > > >> readable. But here, hobbled by some Herculean compulsions to be
>  > > > >> comprehensive, to reduce everything down to the manageable scale 
> of
>  > one
>  > > > >> grand narrative, ambition eventually does damage to his book.
>  > Impatient
>  > > > >> with
>  > > > >> the increasingly workmanlike narrative, but determined to see it 
> to
>  > it's
>  > > > >> end, I found myself drifting into marginalia: for example Guha's
>  > peculiar
>  > > > >> obsession with certain kinds of academic pedigree. Jawaharlal 
> Nehru
>  > was
>  > > > >> of
>  > > > >> course a "student at Cambridge", and so was the "Cambridge 
> educated
>  > > > >> physicist" Homi Bhabha. Krishna Menon and P N Haksar are 
> identically
>  > > > >> "educated at the London School of Economics". P C Mahalanobis is 
> "a
>  > > > >> Cambridge-trained physicist and statistician, Saif Tyabji too is 
> "an
>  > > > >> engineer educated at Cambridge", and of course, Manmohan Singh 
> has
>  > > > >> "written
>  > > > >> a Oxford D Phil thesis". I'm then curious as to the reasons why 
> the
>  > same
>  > > > >> insight is not provided to us for Acharya Kriplani, Ram Manohar
>  > Lohia,
>  > > > >> Shiekh Abdullah, Zakir Hussain; or for Indira Gandhi, Kanshi 
> Ram,
>  > > > >> Mayawati,
>  > > > >> or even Medha Patkar? Of course, BR Ambedkar makes it, because 
> he has
>  > > > >> "doctorates from Columbia and London University". Jagjiwan Ram
>  > scrapes
>  > > > >> through because he is the first Harijan from his village to go 
> to
>  > High
>  > > > >> School, and then onto Benares Hindu University. (Equal 
> Opportunity in
>  > the
>  > > > >> New Republic!) Kamaraj doesn't, but he does get a fuller 
> description:
>  > "K
>  > > > >> Kamaraj… born in a low-caste family in the Tamil country… was a
>  > thick-set
>  > > > >> man with a white mustache… he looked like a cross between Sonny
>  > Liston
>  > > > >> and
>  > > > >> the Walrus". I looked in vain for an equally entertaining 
> description
>  > of
>  > > > >> former President APJ Abdul Kalam.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> If these obsessions with pedigree were the only things impeding 
> my
>  > > > >> reading
>  > > > >> of the book, there would be little to worry about. But armed 
> with the
>  > > > >> dangerous licence of 'historically informed journalism' for the
>  > crucial
>  > > > >> last
>  > > > >> two decades of his book, he seems at liberty to comment without 
> even
>  > the
>  > > > >> minimum disciplines of 'history'. To take one example, he draws
>  > together
>  > > > >> what he thinks of as "the two critical events that… defined the 
> epoch
>  > of
>  > > > >> competitive fundamentalisms: the destruction of the Babri Masjid 
> and
>  > the
>  > > > >> exodus of the Kashmiri Pandits" (from Kashmir). He then goes on 
> to
>  > make
>  > > > >> the
>  > > > >> astonishing comment: "Would one trust a state that could not 
> honour
>  > its
>  > > > >> commitment to protect an ancient place of worship? Would one 
> trust a
>  > > > >> community that so brutally expelled those of a different faith?"
>  > Neither
>  > > > >> needs to be established, both are stated as a priori facts.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> He sees a striking similarity between the two pogroms he 
> acknowledges
>  > in
>  > > > >> independent India: that directed at the Sikhs in Delhi in 1984 
> and at
>  > the
>  > > > >> Muslims of south Gujarat in 2002. "Both began as a response to a
>  > single,
>  > > > >> stray act of violence committed by members of the minority 
> community.
>  > > > >> Both
>  > > > >> proceeded to take a generalized revenge on the minorities as a
>  > whole".
>  > > > >> Guha
>  > > > >> is careful to quickly wipe his sleeve, and draw attention to the
>  > > > >> innocence
>  > > > >> of the victims, but I do wish he had shared with us what was the
>  > "single,
>  > > > >> stray act of violence" committed by minority Muslims in Gujarat?
>  > After
>  > > > >> all,
>  > > > >> the jury on the terrible burning of the train in Godhra is still 
> out,
>  > is
>  > > > >> it
>  > > > >> not?
>  > > > >> At another point he describes the protests against the 
> acquisition of
>  > > > >> land
>  > > > >> by the Tatas in Kalinganagar, Orissa, where in the first week of
>  > 2006, "a
>  > > > >> group of tribals demolished the boundary wall provoking the 
> police to
>  > > > >> open
>  > > > >> fire. The tribals placed the bodies of these martyrs on the 
> highway
>  > and
>  > > > >> held
>  > > > >> up traffic for a week ". How does he establish who was provoking
>  > whom,
>  > > > >> and
>  > > > >> how?
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> Or what can explain his saying, about the aftermath of Sant 
> Harchand
>  > > > >> Singh
>  > > > >> Longowals' killing, in Punjab in 1988: "The sant's assassination 
> was
>  > a
>  > > > >> harbinger of things to come with a new generation of terrorists
>  > taking up
>  > > > >> the struggle for Khalistan". I carefully looked over at least a 
> dozen
>  > > > >> references to the troubles in the Punjab in his book, there are 
> never
>  > > > >> Militants, always "Terrorists".
>  > > > >> The point of bringing together these instances is simply to 
> underline
>  > the
>  > > > >> inherently establishment nature of the positions taken by 
> Ramachandra
>  > > > >> Guha's
>  > > > >> History. This sometimes leads him to places the intelligent 
> reporter
>  > –
>  > > > >> leave
>  > > > >> alone the historian – would not want to be stuck in. About the 
> early
>  > > > >> 1990s
>  > > > >> in Kashmir he says: "As the valley came to resemble a zone of
>  > occupation,
>  > > > >> popular sentiment rallied to the jihadi cause. Terrorists 
> mingled
>  > easily
>  > > > >> with the locals, and were given refuge beforeor after their 
> actions".
>  > > > >> Once
>  > > > >> again: hugely contested words like 'Jehadi' and 'Terrorist', 
> which
>  > > > >> scholars
>  > > > >> the world over are cracking their brains over, slip off like the
>  > slipshod
>  > > > >> words of television anchors.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> And finally, on the difficulties of nurturing secularism in 
> India in
>  > the
>  > > > >> aftermath of Partition, Guha says: "The creation of an Islamic 
> state
>  > on
>  > > > >> India's borders was a provocation to those Hindus who themselves
>  > wished
>  > > > >> to
>  > > > >> merge faith with state". Does one need to repeat here that the 
> RSS,
>  > with
>  > > > >> its
>  > > > >> fascist ideology borrowed directly from Mussolini, and it's 
> ideal of
>  > a
>  > > > >> Hindu-rashtra, was set up in 1925, and long preceded the idea of 
> the
>  > > > >> Islamic
>  > > > >> State of Pakistan. But Guha dives in head first: "My own view –
>  > speaking
>  > > > >> as
>  > > > >> a historian rather than citizen – is that as long as Pakistan 
> exists
>  > > > >> there
>  > > > >> will be Hindu fundamentalists in India". Can such a completely
>  > ahistoric
>  > > > >> assertion make its place into a history? And then remain 
> unchallenged
>  > by
>  > > > >> historians, commentators and reviewers in the India of 2007?
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> Incredibly, in the last few pages of the book, Guha does admit 
> that
>  > only
>  > > > >> in
>  > > > >> three-quarters of the "total land mass claimed by the Indian 
> nation"
>  > does
>  > > > >> the elected government enjoy a legitimacy of power and 
> authority, and
>  > > > >> only
>  > > > >> here do they feel themselves to be part of a single nation. How 
> then
>  > does
>  > > > >> this admission that in a quarter of the World's Largest 
> Democracy
>  > people
>  > > > >> are
>  > > > >> substantially alienated from the Nation sit with his insistence 
> on
>  > > > >> phiphty-phiphty? At what point will our historians ring the 
> alarm
>  > bells?
>  > > > >> When Half the nation is holding the Other Half by force? When it
>  > really
>  > > > >> reaches fifty-fifty?
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> From the books' well-publicised entry into the world we learn 
> that
>  > the
>  > > > >> author has spent the last eight years working on it. I too seem 
> to
>  > have
>  > > > >> coincidentally spent the same years ruminating on the World's 
> Largest
>  > > > >> Democracy, not as a historian, but as a film-maker, and not with 
> the
>  > > > >> grand
>  > > > >> purpose of this book for certain, but just fishing in it's 
> troubled
>  > > > >> margins:
>  > > > >> first in the Narmada valley, and then in Kashmir. Like many 
> others
>  > who
>  > > > >> are
>  > > > >> somewhat bewildered at events around us, and have failed to join 
> in
>  > the
>  > > > >> celebration of democracy this August, the book is an important
>  > marker. It
>  > > > >> demands to be read seriously, and it's flaws and omissions ask 
> to be
>  > > > >> taken
>  > > > >> seriously by us. Because, in our tumultuous times, when change 
> is
>  > fast
>  > > > >> forcing all of us to choose sides, fifty-fifty has to be seen as 
> too
>  > > > >> cautious an answer, so safe as to translate into an almost
>  > mathematically
>  > > > >> calibrated cowardice.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> What then does the book represent? It's timed for the 
> celebrations of
>  > the
>  > > > >> 60th year of Indian Independence, and arrives amidst the giddy
>  > hosannas
>  > > > >> to
>  > > > >> India's success as a democracy, and our newly unfolding status 
> as an
>  > > > >> emerging economic power. The recent enthusiasm to burnish our
>  > 'shining'
>  > > > >> democracy is, as we all know, tightly tied in with the desire to 
> set
>  > > > >> India
>  > > > >> up as a next destination of global capital. (Essentially, India 
> 1,
>  > China
>  > > > >> 0).
>  > > > >> So the grinding poverty, the dispossession, the cruelty and
>  > oppression
>  > > > >> are
>  > > > >> made charming, and discord and chaos is turned into a tribute to 
> our
>  > > > >> democratic credentials. For all the book's sophistry then,
>  > Ramachandra
>  > > > >> Guha
>  > > > >> emerges as the chronicler of India Shining. In this season where 
> we
>  > > > >> celebrate Indian democracy, surely a reassuring book to pass on 
> to
>  > CEOs
>  > > > >> and
>  > > > >> investors at the next Davos.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> (*Sanjay Kak is an independent documentary film-maker, whose 
> recent
>  > film
>  > > > >> Jashn-e-Azadi (How we celebrate freedom) is about the idea of 
> freedom
>  > in
>  > > > >> Kashmir, and the degrees of freedom in India*.)
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