[Reader-list] Kashmiri Pandits demand ‘internally displaced persons’ status
inder salim
indersalim at gmail.com
Sun Nov 2 23:14:49 IST 2008
let somebody tell me
please
what the difference between LoC and Boarder?
i prefer LoC in J&K instead of Boarder,
this way atleast one can see the hypocritical state of mind inside a
STATE. which one can also see in numerous other forms that often
affect us, but we ignore.
forget about the solution to Kashmir problem, i am not insisting that,
but we need to speak a language which even highest offices of both the
countries use, what is the fault? perhaps, we need to know the
difference between a buffalo and a deer, why is a burden for most of
indians and pakistanis to use it differently, when the state machinery
uses is comfortably as and when they meet. why we, here on the list,
can speak about the kashmir conflict without getting personal. why?
love
is
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> well said
>
> On 11/2/08, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Aarti,
>>
>> Needless to say your comments are just ridiculous. At the time of PAKISTAN
>> creation under 2 nation theory It was under legal accession of
>> INDIA(BRITISH). It was the INDIA(on its own) gave life to PAKISTAN 2nd
>> time after 1971 war. You should awake from your unconcious, absentive
>> state of mind. Hence you start demaning for POK and rest of the occupied
>> terrotories return. Probably at some day it may possible as it was not
>> possible before.
>>
>> Dhatri.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Aarti Sethi <aarti.sethi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Aarti Sethi <aarti.sethi at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Kashmiri Pandits demand 'internally displaced
>> persons' status
>> To: dhatr1i at yahoo.com
>> Cc: aman.am at gmail.com, reader-list at sarai.net
>> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 7:37 PM
>>
>>
>> As usual Dhatri you miss the point. The territorial return makes sense when
>> there was a legal accession in the first place. Since this never occurred,
>> because the plebiscite India committed itself to never happened, you would
>> need to re-think your position.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:26 PM, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If INDIA possess other provinces like PAKISTAN any body should quote the
>> word plebiscite. Instead the reverse is true for INDIA as POK and like
>> boarder areas in occupation from PAKISTAN AND CHINA, you and everybody
>> including UN should insist for the territorial return.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Aman Sethi <aman.am at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Aman Sethi <aman.am at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Kashmiri Pandits demand 'internally displaced
>> persons' status
>> To: reader-list at sarai.net
>> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 3:42 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you should insist that India carry out the UN mandated
>> plebiscite as well.
>> a.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Kashmiri Pandits demand 'internally displaced persons' status By
>> Indo-Asian
>>> News Service
>> <http://www.freshnews.in/author/indo-asian-news-service/> on
>>> Friday, October 31, 2008
>>>
>>> Kashmiri Pandits held a silent sit in protest outside the United Nations
>>> High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) office here Friday, demanding that
>>> the community, which fled the Kashmir
>>> Valley<http://www.freshnews.in/tag/kashmir-valley>during the peak of
>>> militancy 20 years ago, be declared as internally
>>> displaced persons (IDPs).
>>>
>>> The community represented by Kashmiri youth organisations in the capital
>>> like Roots in Kashmir, Internally Displaced Youth Front, All India Kashmir
>>> Samaj, Panun Kashmir and others, along with elderly members of the
>> community
>>> in Delhi, presented a five-page memorandum of their demands to Nayona Bose
>>> of the UNHCR to be forwarded to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, who is
>> on
>>> a two-day visit to India.
>>>
>>> "We welcome the UN secretary on his visit to India. As a community
>> we,
>>> therefore, appeal to him to help us - declare the Kashmiri Hindu community
>>> as IDPs," Lalit Ambardar, 35, a qualified engineer who was one of the
>>> 100-odd protestors, told IANS.
>>>
>>> "The Human Rights Working Group on Minorities in Geneva had
>> recognised
>>> Kashmiri Hindus formally as a 'reverse minority'. So the use of
>> the
>>> insulting term of 'migrants' for us - a forcibly exiled community
>> - should
>>> be removed from all records and communications relating to us
>> henceforth,"
>>> Ambardar chorused the protestor's demand.
>>>
>>> Many others protestors were angry about the state to which Kashmiri Hindus
>>> have been reduced since insurgency in the Kashmir Valley in 1989-90, when
>>> more that 400,000 Kashmiri Pandits fled their homes to escape
>>> persecution...
>>>
>>> "Historically, Kashmiri Pandits were known to be intellectuals, but
>> now we
>>> are rotting away - we are a national waste - we have no political
>>> representation, have no geographic ethnicity that we can claim as our
>> own!"
>>> fumed Raj Raina, 37.
>>>
>>> Raina was unable to get a government job owing to his 'migrant'
>> status. He
>>> is now self-employed and runs a small printing press.
>>>
>>> "When I was forced to leave my home in the Valley,
>>> militants<http://www.freshnews.in/tag/militants>threatened us time
>> and
>>> again - merge with us (with political and religious
>>> views), perish or vanish," Raina recapitulated memories of the
>> insurgency.
>>>
>>> Amongst those present from the community were varsity
>>> students<http://www.freshnews.in/tag/students>,
>>> who also held that the current situation was sordid.
>>>
>>> "Calling us migrants implies that we had a choice in the matter, when
>> we
>>> were actually forced to flee," said Aditya Raj Kaul, a 22-year-old
>> student
>>> activist from Delhi University.
>>>
>>> "We have demanded in the memorandum that the UN direct the Indian
>> government
>>> to ensure adequate protection to the residual Kashmiri Hindu population
>>> living in the Valley. Also that Kashmiri Hindus be restored political and
>>> economic rights, giving them equal status rather than second-class
>>> citizenship in their native land," Kaul informed.
>>>
>>> Link -
>>>
>> http://www.freshnews.in/kashmiri-pandits-demand-internally-displaced-persons-status-93431
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