[Reader-list] Fwd: reader-list Digest, Vol 64, Issue 13

Tue Nov 4 14:56:25 IST 2008

Yes Dhatri it is indeed clister clear. Just as clister as everything
else you say. Regardless, why should Inder pose nude according to your
demands? I don't think this is a service he is offering just as yet.
Where he chooses to photograph himself in what attire is really
nothing to do with you. And what is this strange fetish you have about
nudity? I think we have all had this conversation before and we have
all told you that we find nothing shameful or unclean about the human
body, so why does nudity upset you so much?

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:45 AM, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Uncle Sam,
>
>      It is not the nudity that you understand. You should watch INDER mails and LINK.   It's not that I(we) said something , you(inder) said something.  What the people on the List mean is Inder should visit some mosque of his choce(liberty has given),  and implement HIS CRAZYNESS/MADNESS practically as he did it in on a "IDOl" .  Photograph it and make available to the all users. Let everybody know, if it hurts everybody(including him) or not.
>
> Forget about Nudity, Idol worshipping, Manners in Society for time being, Peoples feelilngs/reaction is accountable.  I hope it is clister clear now..
>
> Dhatri.
>
> --- On Mon, 11/3/08, samhoodx at aol.com <samhoodx at aol.com> wrote:
>
> From: samhoodx at aol.com <samhoodx at aol.com>
> Subject: [Reader-list] Fwd: reader-list Digest, Vol 64, Issue 13
> To: reader-list at sarai.net
> Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 7:15 PM
>
> correction:
>
> the sentence " however, nudity in temple art may or may not mean the
> same thing as inder's - or anyone else's - performed nudity in a temple
>
> today" should read:
>
> "however, inder's - or anyone else's - performed nudity in a
> temple
> today may or may not mean the same thing as nudity in temple art ."
>
> sam
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: samhoodx at aol.com
> To: reader-list at sarai.net
> Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 8:38 am
> Subject: Fwd: [Reader-list] reader-list Digest, Vol 64, Issue 13
>
> hi. you seem to have missed inder's response, just as dhatri did. so i
> am forwarding inder's response below the quoted part of your message.
> he says there is no tradition of nudity in islamic art, while hindu
> deities did not have any problem with nudity. that is correct. as you
> know, there is much nudity (and many varieties of intercourse, i might
> add) in hindu temple art, the most famous of which is khajuraho. there
> are many more examples of very high artistic sophistication, such as
> konark. apart from the philosophical content of its sanskrit texts,
> temple art and architecture are probably the most sophisticated
> elements in its corpus. however, nudity in temple art may or may not
> mean the same thing as inder's - or anyone else's - performed nudity in
> a temple today. it would be good to have a discussion on what it may or
> may not mean, and why.
>
>
> sam
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: rajendra bhat <raja_starkglass at yahoo.com>
>
>
> .... you have not bothered to reply as to why you were not civilised at
> martand temple parading and photographed in nude, but the same culture
> was absent at mosque, say at hajarathbal.?
>
>
> Nudity does not affect any of us as we are all products of nude coitus,
> of parents, but in civil society every civil act has a place, dining
> hall for dinner, coitus in bedroom, so if your culture is not to be
> civil, but only cultured, then have your culture same in all the places
> of worship.!
>
>
> Lot more love.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>> From: inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
>
>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Thinking Through Figures on Internal
>
>>> Displacement from Kashmir
>
>>> To: reader-list at sarai.net
>
>>> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 4:14 PM
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> well, dear pawan
>
>>> how a North indian ( like you) can join Raj's Jai Mahrashtra
> slogan,
>
>>> it is beyond my comprehension.
>
>>>
>
>>> why mosque comes to your mind as and when you talk about Temple. how
>
>>> is your subconscious working, you might find an answer.
>
>>>
>
>>> how my nidity hits you below the belt, i dont understand. Hindu
>
>>> gods were always confortable with that. it is necessary, to say
>
>>> Female, as and when we say Male, Nudity is not always happening
>
>>> against the factor called ' garment' . it has some innocene
> involved
>
>>> int it, for example when we were born. there is no reference of any
>
>>> past which has nudity as part of mosque culture. so wherefrom this
>
>>> question?
>
>>>
>
>>> well, i have my own understanding of violence, and i believe our
>
>>> intolerance towards the other is the core reason.
>
>>>
>
>>> we all are victims at one point or the other, but how to join
>
>>> mobocracy is beyond my understanding of discourses on any subject.
>
>>>
>
>>> i am talking to you becasue you are in discourse on the List,
>
>>>
>
>>> and the moment you will throw stones on others, you will become a
>
>>> petty instrument of those who work from above and motivate the
> workers
>
>>> to act, the paid or unintelligent activits.
>
>>>
>
>>> you need to know that you are using words, like we, which are
> ambigous
>
>>> most of times, and so there is always scope for humour, wit, and
>
>>> profoundity at the same time.
>
>>>
>
>>> lot of love
>
>>> and regards
>
>>> is
>
>>>
>
>>> p.s. if you are still angry with me, please wrtie back to me outside
>
>>> the list, i will be happy to respond back, we can spare others from
>
>>> all this
>
>>>
>
>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Pawan Durani
> <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
>
>>> wrote:
>
>>> > IInder,
>
>>> >
>
>>> > till date i have not got a reply ohn when you would get yourslef
>
>>> > photographed in the Mosque premesis like you got one done in
> Martand
>
>>> Temple.
>
>>> >
>
>>> > Pawan
>
>>> >
>
>>> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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