[Reader-list] Simple Analysis of media reporting of Saadhvi

[chanchal malviya]

You have not read my article...
I have shown concern on the role media and not on what is the outcome of this probe....


 

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From: Javed <javedmasoo at gmail.com>
To: chanchal_malviya at yahoo.com
Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 11:07:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Simple Analysis of media reporting of Saadhvi

Dear Chanchal
Please read this news item - "I was Malegaon mastermind, admits Lt-Col"

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-3683035,flstry-1.cms

Is there any doubt left now?





On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:35 AM, chanchal malviya
<chanchal_malviya at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Following points are to be noted:
>
>
>
> ·
> How
> did a Hindu Bomb suddenly evolve all of a sudden when election is just on head?
>
> ·
> If
> Saadhvi and Safron were involved, why did they choose Malegaon? Maharashtra was not a base for Saadhvi or
> Ramji.
>
> ·
> Malegaon is nearly all Muslim. For a Hindu
> to commit such an act would require local understanding of the complete area. Can
> such incidence take place without the support of local people who know the area
> in detail?
>
> ·
> Why
> isn't a local person arrested yet?
>
> ·
> How
> has the SMS of Col Purohit come to limelight after more than 20 days since
> Pragya is arrested? Her phone calls are said to be recorded, but the SMS is
> tracked so late? How?
>
> ·
> The biggest doubt: Will a person who
> is going to commit a terrorist act, import his or her own vehicle in it? Is
> Saadhvi so stupid that she could not even think that she doesn't have to use
> her own bike?
>
>
>
>
>
> Doubt on Talk between
> Saadhvi Pragya and Ramji
>
>
>
> Indian Express  Date: 5th
>  November 2008
>
> Heading: Malegaon: 3 more arrests, ATS claims witness
> 'heard' Sadhvi discuss blast, killing
>
>
>
> 'The prosecution
> claimed the conversation took place after the September 29 blast in a room in
> Ujjain where, apart from Ramji and the Sadhvi, a third person was present, who
> is now a witness. This witness, who was present in that room, gave a 15-page
> statement with details of the alleged conversation at the Mazgaon magistrate's
> court on October 23.'…….
>
> Alleged conversation between Pragya and Ramji, as claimed by
> an ATS witness
>
> Pragya: Malegaon blast mein meri gaadi mili hai
>
> Ramji: Lekin woh gadi aapne bechi thi
>
> Pragya: Police puchhegi kahaan bechi, kya bata-oon? Kya saboot hai? MP, Gujarat, Maharashtra?
>
>
> Ramji: Gujarat bolo
>
> Pragya: Meri gaadi se blast kiya toh itne kam log kaise mare? Gaadi bheed mein
> kyon nahi lagayi?
>
> Ramji: Bheed mein khadi karne nahi diya. Kuchh hua to niptaa lenge. Meri
> Arvindji se baat hui hai. Woh ek lakh public leke aandolan karenge
>
> ·
> Who
> is the third person? And who else than that unknown person has agreed that
> three were in a room in Ujjain? So, if Mr. Z will say that I am
> the witness who heard Mr. X saying something to Mr. Y – will it immediately
> become so valid that Mr. X and Mr. Y becomes terrorists?
>
>
>
> However, there is another version of media over the same
> thing
>
>
>
> IBN Live            Date:
> 4th November 2008
>
> Heading: BJP, RSS reject proof against Sadhvi, call it
> conspiracy
>
> Excerpts from the
> tape:
>
> Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur: They will take me away this evening.
>
> Ramnarayan Singh: Why?
>
> Sadhvi Pragya Singh
> Thakur: They've found my car in the Malegaon blast case.
>
> Ramnarayan Singh: But you sold that car.
>
> Sadhvi Pragya Singh
> Thakur: Where did I sell it? Madhya
> Pradesh? Gujarat? Maharashtra?
>
> Ramnarayan Singh: Tell them Gujarat.
>
> Sadhvi Pragya Singh
> Thakur: What do I tell them if they ask me
> when?
>
> Ramnarayan Singh: Say you don't remember.
>
> Sadhvi Pragya Singh
> Thakur: But why did so few people died? Why
> didn't you park the car in a crowed area?
>
> Ramnarayan Singh: I had identified a crowded area but I couldn't find a parking place
> there, and the area where I parked it wasn't very crowded. Anyway, we'll with
> it if something happens. I have already spoken to Arvindji. He said he'll
> gather at least lakh people and protest.
>
>
>
> ·
> So,
> the media has two versions. One says that there was a meeting in a Room among
> Saadhvi, Ramji and the unknown third person, who has said the mentioned
> conversation. Another says, the phone has been taped. However, the taped phone
> has not been shown in media with original voices. And there is no report that
> the taped voices are original or dubbed.
>
> ·
> Now,
> there are questions to be raised here. According to the published conversation,
> Saadhvi knows that she is going to be arrested. And she did not take any
> precaution of having a lawyer. And till the end of the talk, they do not
> require any legal support. They talk of common people's protest.
>
> ·
> It
> appears from the media releases that she didn't ask Ramji about why he didn't
> park the vehicle in crowded area immediately after the blast or for three four
> days after that day. She asked him this thing at the time when she knows she is
> going to be arrested and before a third person.
>
> ·
> Saadhvi
> has sold the bike, but she doesn't know in which she sold it. And they are also
> so careless that they do not ponder much to decide about the place also and
> casually chose Gujarat. It is noteworthy that only those people sell casually their bikes and
> do not care much about to whom they sell their bike who are completely not
> interested in Criminal Offenses. Many times, it happens that with time people
> loose the buyer's information also.
>
> ·
> Do
> you think that people who can go to the level of terrorism would be able to
> commit such mistakes and carelessness even after understanding that he or she
> is to be arrested?
>
> ·
> Ramji
> has to park the bike in a crowded area. He locates it, but do not find a
> parking place. And he simply leaves the vehicle in a no man's land and escapes.
> How silly? In general, a terrorist will never do this.
>
>
>
> If the above conversation proves to be a conspiracy, then it
> reveals some more important clues:
>
> ·
> Gujarat is dragged as a name again. We have found in past that Gujarat has always been targeted by
> anti-Hindus. It happens again here.
>
> ·
> There
> is no talk on legal aspect. The fear is people's protest alone.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bike's number game
>
>
>
> This is a case of its own kind where the designers of a bomb
> blast, who are not local to Malegaon, whose bike is not of Maharashtra and who
> is not a Muslim, enters a dominated Muslim area, and plants his or her own
> bike. Some questions:
>
> ·
> How
> many terrorists in India or Abroad or in History of
> Terrorism have you heard that Terrorists or Locals have used their own Vehicles
> to commit the crime?
>
> ·
> Was
> Saadhvi Pragya such a stupid organizer of sophisticated terrorist act that she
> planted her own bike as evidence?
>
> ·
> Media
> says: (Quote link) that the chesis number of the bike was attempted to be
> removed. Now there are two things:
>
> o
> Either
> the number was removed: which will never lead to confirm that the bike belonged
> to anybody
>
> o
> Or
> the number was not removed: And this doubtful – if someone will attempt to
> remove the chesis number, he/she will either remove it or he/she will not all
> remove it. What is the meaning of attempt?
>
>
>
> Why doesn't the ATS release their investigation details of
> Narco test immediately? How will the common people come to know, whether the
> voices in the Test Recordings are not dubbed?
>
>
>
>
>
> Hindu leaders directly
> accounted
>
>
>
> ·
> There
> has been lots of bombing going on in our Country. How many Maulvis or Imams has
> been arrested yet? People never know the status of people who are arrested as
> Muslims. In case of Hindus, it is noteworthy; there is nearly always an attack
> on their leaders directly. Some examples are: Shankaracharya was arrested
> alleged directly for murder. Allegations were made by/via media directly on
> Asharam Bapuji. Brinda Karat alleged Baba Ram Dev directly. And now, Saadhvi is
> directly and suddenly arrested.
>
>
>
> NCP attacks VHP office
>
>
>
> ·
> VHP's
> name had no where come in the attack. Why was VHP's office targeted?
>
> ·
> Why
> were the same NCP people so quite while so many blasts took place in Maharashtra including Mumbai serial train
> blast?
>
> ·
> Why
> do the media simply project NCP as the people who attacked VHP? Why don't they
> investigate further to release the names of people who did it?
>
>
>
> Difference between
> Hindu Terrorism and Islamic Terrorism
>
>
>
> ·
> Whenever
> a mail is sent by any Muslim Terrorist Organizations, the mail contents always
> contain texts of Quran and 'In the name of Allah'. Yet our honorable media says
> it is plain Terrorism.
>
> ·
> Whenever
> retaliation is exercised by any Hindu Outfit, our truthful media terms it as
> 'Hindu Terror'. Even though these outfits never quote or follow any Hindu
> scriptures.
>
>
>
> This is a clear indication that media is working against
> Hindus. Anything that can defame the name of Hindu in the very nation of Hindus
> is what media takes pride in shouting aloud.
>
>
>
> The biggest concern
>
>
>
> Even if some Army officials (retired or working) were taken
> for interrogation, it was the duty of the Government and Media to ensure that
> it doesn't become public. There is already a huge dissatisfaction in Security
> Forces. We have reduction in people's interest to join Security Forces. And we
> have plenty of vacant positions. Security of the country is crucial. And any
> defamation brought to its name will completely ruin the people's interest to
> join it. Now, here is a Government and a set of Media who is taking every step
> to forecast Army as a Terrorist Group. There are two possibilities:
>
> ·
> Either
> this is done knowingly, where the purpose is to make the defense porous enough
> so as to weaken it. Bangladesh and Pakistan are already successful in beating
> the Army and entering Indian territories, the count of Bangladeshis going in
> Crores.
>
> ·
> Or
> the Government is not interested in securing the country
>
>
>
> Tomorrow who will save this country? Isn't the projection of
> media a step towards putting our defense parallel to ISI or Pak Forces? Why
> didn't the Government intervene to ask media to be quite about Army, at least
> until complete investigation is over?
>
> Outcome of this
> Saadhvi case
>
>
>
> ·
> If
> Saadhvi is proven to be guilty, by any chance, through conspiracy or through
> facts, it is a win of Islamic terrorism. Because, hence forth Congress and
> other anti-Hindu parties will have loud voice protecting the terror outfits
> which they are already doing. Mulayam Singh, Amar Singh, Lalu Yadav, Pashwan
> and many others will further get boost to uplift SIMI and many other similar
> organizations which they keep on advocating.
>
> ·
> If
> Saadhvi is not proven guilty, then ATS would be guilty and then also it will be
> a win of Islamic Terrorism who will claim that ATS has been completely framing
> stories against them also.
>
> ·
> The
> greatest loss to the country is that the Army is getting defamed by the media
>
>
>
> There is no doubt that whatever is the outcome of this
> interrogation, and whoever is the culprit, the end result is in favor or
> Terrorism. And this is an unfortunate that the majority of this country will
> have to pay for it. It is an unfortunate that Hindus, the 70% of the
> population, will be deprived of calling themselves as Hindus, as Congress and
> anti-Hindu parties already call Hinduism as Communal. This is a complete defeat
> of Hindus and of the nation.
>
>
>
>
>
> Some interesting
> stories
>
> 2008 Malegaon Blast
>
>
>
> The Hindu publishes:      Date:
> Oct 1, 2008
>
> Subject: Nitric
> acid, nails used in Malegaon blast
>
>
>
> …'The bomb was kept on
> a motorbike which, locals said, was lying outside a shop owned by Abdullah
> Jamaluddin Ansari, 70. After a couple of hours, Ansari asked a worker in a
> hotel opposite to his premises to report about the bike at the police chowk, 30
> feet from the blast site. But the police paid no heed, it was alleged. Ansari
> is among those critically injured.'
>
>
>
> Note: Now, if Ansari knew that the bike
> was a bomb bike, how come he could not save himself from the blast – forget
> others. It is amazing to understand that people knew that a bomb was planted,
> yet they lost 4 lives and several got injured. However, there is a possibility
> to this that people mistook that it was a bigger chocolate bomb of Deepawali
> and would not hurt them at a distance and kept closer. Four of them were more
> heroic to remain too closer. And that is how casualty resulted. Or it could be
> that they just doubted the bike and were roaming around it as if it was in an
> exhibition and wanted police to take it away. They could see the bike, but not
> the bomb. They could doubt its presence, but not think that it would explode.
> Something fishy appears here itself.
>
>
>
> 2006 Blast
>
>
>
> Inquilab, Mumbai publishes        Date:
> 11th September 2006
>
>
>
> Malegaon 10 Sept (Inquilab
> correspondent): The dead body of a man who was wearing a fake beard and had
> died in the bomb blasts of Malegaon has mysteriously disappeared. His body was badly mutilated and the
> lower part was completely missing. Aqeel Ahmed, a 37 year old tailor from
> Islampura area of Malegaon, says that he had himself moved the dead body of
> this man into the ambulance van when his [fake] beard came off. Inquilab's
> correspondent visited the mortuary along with Aqeel Ahmed. When he asked Aqeel
> Ahmed to identify the dead body, he said that the body in question was not
> there. The medical officer of Malegaon Municipal Corporation Dr Vagh said that
> post-mortem had been carried on 30 corpses in Wadia Hospital and one body was
> autopsied in Dholia Hospital but none of them was without legs. It should be noted that Aqeel said
> to have himself moved into the ambulance van a dead body that did not have the
> lower part. According to Aqeel, at that time he did not pay much attention to
> this but realised the significance only later. This revelation links these
> blasts to the explosions in the house of a RSS member in Malegaon from where fake
> beards were discovered. Police say that they do not have any such information.
> However, if an eyewitness comes forward, investigation will be launched into
> the fake beard."
>
>
>
> Note: It is so interesting that Mr Aqeel
> Ahmed found the lower half of the body missing, but the beard intact in the
> dead body. And beard was removed only when Aqeel pulled it off. And he realizes
> the significance later so that no one can verify whether he was lying or
> telling the truth. I wonder why a Narco Test was not conducted on this person,
> hopefully, in positive aspect for him alone so as to confirm that what he was saying
> was correct.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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