[Reader-list] About Accusations on this List

[rashneek kher]

Dear Gargi,

I have really been out of this all and have stayed quite.Please dont drag me
into this.In case you have read Shudda's pieces please do care to read mine
too before you make statements here.I can say with authority that in
most aspects of Kashmir including those four pieces Shudda's knowledge is
incomplete and wanting.
Yet I have admired him for his understanding and knowledge in so many
fields.
Well in case you wanted to do some mudslinging at me,you may just end up
proving your inherent biases,thats all.

Live on

Rashneek




On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Gargi Sen <sen.gargi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Shuddha, dear all,
> I am a general lurker on this list and the list is an important space for
> me, and I think for many like me, habitual lurkers. Its a space that has
> helped to initiate and carry out many important but difficult dialogues. It
> has produced some very fine erudition. While there are many favourites but
> my personal choice would be Shuddha your annotation to the history of
> iconoclasm in Kashmir and a reading of Kalhana in four parts. Huge but
> riveting.
> And many such fine pieces have been on the list ­ I can name many whose
> writing and deliberations have made me think, pause, reflect, rethink...
>
> But the main strength of this list I dare say  has been its maturity to
> deal
> positions that believe repeating lies and half baked opinions endlessly
> will
> turn desires into truths .
> They are a dreary part of this list but probably have played a part in
> provoking some of the greatest responses. So while I have looked with dread
> at the most common names that appear most often on this list, I have been
> very impressed with the responses to them. The recent exchange between
> Inder
> Salim and Aditya Raj kaul on caste is a case. I wonder if Inder Salim would
> have felt compelled to articulate in this manner and forum if it wasn¹t for
> Aditya? Or would you Shuddha write at such length if it wasn¹t for
> Rashneek?
> I also saw that a sustained dialogue can help people shift positions. I see
> Khemendra Kaul who is at least willing to listen and talk.
> And I believe that such a shift is possible because of the quality of
> dialogue, and a freedom to express, on the Sarai list.
>
> So despite Aditya Raj Kaul¹s viciousness where he has graduated from
> threatening to spit to slap, and his immature but dangerous worldview or
> Pawan Durani¹s aggression and shifting celebration from Maharashtra to
> Andhra, and the utter tedium of their arguments that lack the basic tenets
> of an argument, or their ignorance, or their silly, hostile, masculine,
> grandiose and empty posturing I believe they should be allowed to continue.
> This is as much for freedom of expression as much for the hope that deep
> inside they are just immature and don¹t really mean what they write.
>
> As for the specific charges of being *paid* that they made against you
> Shuddha, I think everyone, at least those who have the energy, should
> continue to ask them for proof :-) Rather than expel them. Otherwise I am
> afraid that it could seem like the Sarai list is *punishing* them for
> errant
> behaviour whereas the allegations they make are far more serious, and have
> far graver implications than such punitive measures can correct.
>
> Gargi Sen
>
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Rashneek Kher
Wandhama Massacre-The Forgotten Human Tragedy
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