[Reader-list] About Accusations on this List

Tapas Ray tapasrayx at gmail.com
Thu Nov 13 21:03:33 IST 2008


Ashima,

You have offered a very interesting perspective, and I too have been 
inclined to think that way at times. But, as I have explained in the 
other message (addressed to Monica) I have posted a minute ago, the time 
has probably come to set these considerations aside.

Just my two-bit.

Tapas


Ashima Sood wrote:
> Kirdar, Danish, Inder Salim,  Ravikant, Sabitha and other fellow list members,
> 
> As a committed reader of reader-list and someone who regularly has her
> email inbox flooded by Messrs Aditya Raj Kaul, Pawan Durani and
> company, I hear you. But may I request we not dignify the tantrums of
> this group with a ban?
> 
> Recently, Mr Aditya Raj Kaul wrote (apologies to Shuddha for reproducing):
> 
> "This is simply Dumbocracy rule here in SARAI. Shuddha being the
> originator. His mails are filled with trash, he has bad 'history' and
> 'Civics'."
> 
> To me, all these gratuitous insults and juvenile coinages suggest this
> writer is a brat - very spoiled, very petulant and very cornered .
> From where I stand, it's clear that Shuddha, Shivam, Aarti, Prakash,
> (and many others I could not name without going on a couple of
> paragraphs) do a very fine (and patient) job of countering the
> half-baked facts and opinions spewed by Mr. Aditya Kaul and Mr Durani.
> Doesn't surprise me the only response left to these gentlemen is
> sputtering and spitting. With their elegantly argued missives on
> public record, seriously, are they defaming anyone more than
> themselves?
> 
> My concern is that if we do banish them to their side of the fence -
> militarybharat.com or hindurashtra.com or kashmironlyforpandits.com -
> they will continue without challenge. On this list,  they are called
> to account, and exposed for what they are. Over time, we can be sure
> they lose a fraction more of the fence-sitter vote.
> 
> Despite the bother,  I suggest those of us not directly in the line of
> fire make judicious use of the delete button. Even better, drown  out
> the bad talk with good talk. Or maybe think of this as participant
> observation - we have enacted here a fascinating ethnography of thug
> thinking. I would love to see a meditation on the sputter and spit
> among  the "stammer, mumble, sweat, scrawl, and tic" and other forms
> of arrested speech and gesture that Raqs examined on the e-flux
> journal (http://e-flux.com/journal/view/14) - only here it is the
> interrogator in the uncomfortable position of being interrogated.
> 
> At stake here are two visions of public space. We know what Mr. Aditya
> Raj Kaul would do. He has defended  the "protest" - read
> bully-enforced censorship - against SAR Geelani. Let's not give him
> the satisfaction of following in his path.
> 
> Peace and deference to the moderator's decision,
> 
> Ashima
> 
> 
> 


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