[Reader-list] Traveling Films South Asia comes to Bangalore

Ram ramnathbhat.13 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 16 21:50:13 IST 2008


Dear All,

Maraa, a media collective, in collaboration with Pedestrian Pictures and 
Vikalp Bengaluru, is hosting the Traveling Film South Asia film festival 
in *Bangalore *from the *21st to 23rd November 2008*
The venue is *Indian Institute of Agricultural Technologies*, Queen's 
Road, Bangalore.

Given below is the schedule and info about films:

*EissenFressers (Iron Eaters)*
Shaheen Dil Riaz
Bangladesh, 2007
21st Nov, *1800-1930 hrs*

*Mis-education of Pakistan *
Syed Ali Nasir,
Pakistan, 2005
21st Nov, *1945-2015 hrs*

*Motherland Afghanistan*
Sedika Mojadidi,
Afghanistan, 2006
21st Nov, *2015-2130 hrs*

*Every Good Marriage Begins with Tears*
Simon Chambers,
UK/Bangladesh, 2006
22nd Nov, *1500-1600 hrs*

*Living Goddess*
Ishbel Whitaker,
Nepal, 2006/07
22nd Nov, *1615-1800 hrs*

*Six yards to democracy*
Nistha Jain and Smrithi Nevatia
India, 2006
22nd Nov, *1815-1915 hrs*
*
Ayodhya Gatha*
Vani Subramaniam,
India, 2007
22nd Nov, *1915-2015 hrs*

*The Sky Below*
Sara Singh
India/Pakistan, 2006/07
22nd Nov, *2015-2130 hrs*

*A Life with Slate*
Dipesh Kharel,
Nepal, 2006
23rd Nov, *1500-1600 hrs*

*Rabba Hun Kee Kariye (Thus Departed Our Neighbours)*
Ajay Bharadwaj,
India, 2007
23rd Nov, *1615-1720 hrs*

*Chaama Deu! Tara Nabirsa (Forgive! Forget Not)*
Pranay Limbu,
Nepal, 2007
23rd Nov, *1730-1830 hrs*

*From Dust*
DhruvDhawan,
Sri Lanka, 2005
23rd Nov, *1830-1930 hrs*

We are organizing this festival collaboratively and is free of charge 
for audiences. Those wishing to donate towards organizing costs, can 
contact info at maraa.in

If you want a detailed note/synopsis on any specific films on this list, 
please contact us by email, and we will get back to you.

Grateful if you can pass this on to your Bangalore contacts and any 
other email lists to which this would be relevant.

Best,

Ram 
maraa.in


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> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 05:05:31 -0800 (PST)
> From: Khurram Parvez <khurramparvez at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Reader-list] Why should I vote?
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> Why should I vote?
> By Zahir-ud-Din [Kashmir Times] 
>
> I am in a fix. Should I vote or 
> not? The question haunts me day and night. The government urges me through paid 
> advertisements in local dailies to wake up and vote as it would solve all my 
> problems. The dissidents on the other hand tell me to stay away from the booths. 
> What shall I do? I decided to look in the history of Kashmir to have a better 
> understanding of the issue. 
>
> I am told an elected government would 
> improve the standard of education, create new avenues of employment, protect 
> environment, restore supremacy of judiciary and also provide a clean 
> administration. The history, however, falsifies these claims. We are told that 
> the successive 'democratic? governments persuaded the people to seek education. 
> Yes, Sheikh Muhammad Abdullah founded the University of Jammu and Kashmir at 
> Hazratbal. A few colleges were also founded during Bakshi?s regime. But did it 
> make education popular? The state of Jammu Kashmir is still far behind than most 
> the states in India as far as literacy rate is concerned. What did the elected 
> governments, therefore, do? After signing the Indra-Abdullah accord, 
> Sher-e-Kashmir banned Jama?t-e- Islami run schools. More than fifty thousand 
> students suffered. Many of them had to abandon studies as no 'secular? school 
> was ready to admit them. 
>
> On the contrary, Maharaja Hari Singh made 
> education compulsory in early 30s. Parents were forced to send their children to 
> the school or face consequences. A Muslim Conference worker, Muhammad Yusuf Khan 
> of Balgarden, Srinagar who fought the Maharaja narrates his experience. ?I was 
> sent by my father in a factory where I used to weave shawls. One day I was taken 
> by my father to the school. I was given books and stationary printed in England. 
> I was given a piece of cloth for my uniform along with a one rupee note to get 
> it stitched. In addition I was given soap and told to bathe daily? These schools 
> were called Jabri (forced) schools. The students of these schools managed the 
> affairs of the state for quite some time. 
>
> Maharaja's interest in 
> education is reflected by his invitation to Qudratullah Shuhaab. He secured 
> first position in an international essay competition. As soon as Maharaja heard 
> about it, he invited Shuhaab over a cup of tea and encouraged him. (Shuhaab 
> Nama) 
> As far as supremacy of judiciary is concerned, the Maharaja proved 
> more prudent than the 'elected' rulers. In early 40s Maharani Tara Devi's driver 
> was booked for a minor traffic offence. The Maharani wrote a letter to the 
> concerned judge requesting him to deal with her driver leniently. The learned 
> judge informed the Maharaja who scolded the Maharani and tendered an apology to 
> the judge. But when Sher-e-Kashmir assumed power, a Halqa president of National 
> Conference in Budgam district wrote a note to a high court judge urging him not 
> to hear a second appeal. The learned Justice informed Sheikh Muhammad Abdullah 
> of the development. Sher-e-Kashmir responded: 'We are in a state of emergency. 
> Do as you have been told or quit.' The learned Justice resigned in protest. This 
> is how the process of eroding the supremacy of judiciary was initiated. (As 
> narrated by noted lawyer, columnist and author GN Gauhar.) 
>
> The trend 
> continues even today. A police officer decides whether a court order seeking 
> release of a political prisoner should be honoured or not. The home department 
> created history in July 2000 by issuing a written order urging the jail 
> superintendents not to honour court orders seeking release of political 
> prisoners. The order was withdrawn after fifteen days when the lawyers 
> registered strong protest. However, it is still being followed in letter and 
> spirit. Early this year the Chief Judicial Magistrate, Budgam while hearing 
> Jalil Andrabi?s case observed: 'The people are justified in casting aspersions 
> on the judiciary.' 
>
> There is no denying the fact that the Maharaja 
> ordered arrest of the people but gave them a fair trial. The Maharaja had the 
> vein to cancel the exile orders of Said-ud-Din Shawl and his colleague. The duo 
> was exiled in 1924. The elected rulers on the other hand resorted to 
> undemocratic methods to silence dissent. Thousands of activists were exiled 
> during Sher-e-Kashmir's and Bakshi's regime. Strangely enough a police officer 
> would issue such orders. 
>
> During Maharaja's 'autocratic' rule nobody was 
> subjected to enforced disappearance, nobody was killed after arrest, nobody was 
> eliminated in a fake encounter. But in democratic rule more than eight thousand 
> people were subjected to enforced disappearanceand custodial killings became the 
> order of the day. 
> The 'elected' rulers also extended Defence of India Rules 
> (DIR) to the state. Thousands of activists were detained for years together 
> without trial under these rules. Sher-e-Kashmir Sheikh Muhammad Abdullah framed 
> the infamous Public Safety Act (PSA) 1978. Much has been said and written on 
> this draconian legislation. No further explanation, therefore, is needed here. 
> The process did not stop here. In 1984 Ghulam Muhammad Shah dethroned Dr Farooq 
> Abdullah with New Delhi's help and extended another draconian legislation 
> Terrorist and Disruptive Activities Prevention Act (TADA) 1985 to the state. 
>
>
> The special status of the state was eroded slowly and silently. Way back 
> in 1959 Article 238 which contained the heart and soul of Article 370 was 
> omitted from Indian constitution. In absence of Article 238, Article 370 has no 
> meaning. Soon after the permit system was also abolished. Today people are 
> talking about restoration of autonomy. How can the people swallow such a pill? 
>
> In 1996 when Dr Farooq assumed power for the third time he wasted no time 
> and carved out the ruthless Special Operations Group (SOG). The SOG wreaked 
> havoc in the entire state. Soon after he extended POTO (Prevention of Terrorism 
> Ordinance) when it was still an ordinance. Jammu Kashmir thus became the first 
> state to invoke the provisions of the draconian law. 
>
> Mufti Muhammad 
> Sayed and Ghulam Nabi Azad did the maximum damage to the unity and harmony of 
> the state so much so that division on communal lines seems quite imminent. Only 
> a miracle can hold the state together now. 
>
> Coming to employment. Instead 
> of creating new avenues of employment, the successive democratic governments 
> strangulated the public sector. Most of the corporations are ailing today. The 
> prestigious State Road Transport Corporation (SRTC) is at the verge of collapse. 
> The Agro Industries Development Corporation is on the death bed. The Cheshma 
> Shahi's milk plant has already died down. The other corporations have a similar 
> story to tell. A study conducted by a university student reveals that the 
> corporations failed because the authorities got their party workers, relatives 
> and friends adjusted in them without taking in to consideration the capacity of 
> the corporations. 
>
> I am also promised better roads. By now it has become 
> clear that the elected governments are not capable of making good roads. The 
> state got the best roads during Jagmohan's 'undemocratic' rule. The roads 
> constructed by him still exist. 
>
> Environmental preservation has been 
> confined to Dal Lake by the elected rulers. In the name of saving Dal public 
> funds are looted anything. The results are obvious. Dal is dying fast and so are 
> the forests. A retired tourism official preferring anonymity showed some rare 
> documents to me. The documents reveal that Maharaja was very much concerned 
> about the environment. In his regime the forests were not plundered. Dal had not 
> lost its glitter and Wular had not shrunk dangerously. 
>
> I am also told 
> that elections would lead to resolution of the Kashmir conflict. How? The 
> politicians alone know. Nobody must oppose a democratic exercise for the sake of 
> it. But the government of India, the government of Pakistan and the 
> international community have time and again made clear that elections in Indian 
> administered Jammu Kashmir and Pakistan administered Jammu Kashmir will have no 
> bearing on the status of the conflict. Elections could not solve the problem in 
> six decades. How can it lead to resolution now when equations have changed the 
> world over?
>
> By now it has become clear that the state was well off during 
> the 'autocratic? and undemocratic rule. Why should I, therefore, vote? Can 
> anybody convince me? 
>
> Feed back at din.zahir at gmail.com
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 05:43:30 -0800 (PST)
> From: Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Reader-list] "It's Likely the Prophet Muhammad Never
> 	Existed" - A	Theory
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> This is absolutely the most bizzare thing I have read in a very long time. If it were not the WSJ carrying this article, I would have laughed it off as yet another prank or cheap gutter propaganda.
>  
> It is akin to hearing someone say that "Man did not land on the Moon" or "The Twin Towers were brought down on 9/11 by the USA itself".  
>  
> Kshmendra
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>  
> NOVEMBER 15, 2008
> "Professor Hired for Outreach to Muslims Delivers a Jolt" 
> "Islamic Theologian's Theory: It's Likely the Prophet Muhammad Never Existed"
> By ANDREW HIGGINS
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122669909279629451.html#printMode
>  
> MÜNSTER, Germany -- Muhammad Sven Kalisch, a Muslim convert and Germany's first professor of Islamic theology, fasts during the Muslim holy month, doesn't like to shake hands with Muslim women and has spent years studying Islamic scripture. Islam, he says, guides his life.
>  
> So it came as something of a surprise when Prof. Kalisch announced the fruit of his theological research. His conclusion: The Prophet Muhammad probably never existed.
>
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> Muslims, not surprisingly, are outraged. Even Danish cartoonists who triggered global protests a couple of years ago didn't portray the Prophet as fictional. German police, worried about a violent backlash, told the professor to move his religious-studies center to more-secure premises.
> "We had no idea he would have ideas like this," says Thomas Bauer, a fellow academic at Münster University who sat on a committee that appointed Prof. Kalisch. "I'm a more orthodox Muslim than he is, and I'm not a Muslim."
>  
> When Prof. Kalisch took up his theology chair four years ago, he was seen as proof that modern Western scholarship and Islamic ways can mingle -- and counter the influence of radical preachers in Germany. He was put in charge of a new program at Münster, one of Germany's oldest and most respected universities, to train teachers in state schools to teach Muslim pupils about their faith.
>  
> Muslim leaders cheered and joined an advisory board at his Center for Religious Studies. Politicians hailed the appointment as a sign of Germany's readiness to absorb some three million Muslims into mainstream society. But, says Andreas Pinkwart, a minister responsible for higher education in this north German region, "the results are disappointing."
>  
> Prof. Kalisch, who insists he's still a Muslim, says he knew he would get in trouble but wanted to subject Islam to the same scrutiny as Christianity and Judaism. German scholars of the 19th century, he notes, were among the first to raise questions about the historical accuracy of the Bible.
>  
> Many scholars of Islam question the accuracy of ancient sources on Muhammad's life. The earliest biography, of which no copies survive, dated from roughly a century after the generally accepted year of his death, 632, and is known only by references to it in much later texts. But only a few scholars have doubted Muhammad's existence. Most say his life is better documented than that of Jesus.
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> "Of course Muhammad existed," says Tilman Nagel, a scholar in Göttingen and author of a new book, "Muhammad: Life and Legend." The Prophet differed from the flawless figure of Islamic tradition, Prof. Nagel says, but "it is quite astonishing to say that thousands and thousands of pages about him were all forged" and there was no such person.
>  
> All the same, Prof. Nagel has signed a petition in support of Prof. Kalisch, who has faced blistering criticism from Muslim groups and some secular German academics. "We are in Europe," Prof. Nagel says. "Education is about thinking, not just learning by heart."
> Prof. Kalisch's religious studies center recently removed a sign and erased its address from its Web site. The professor, a burly 42-year-old, says he has received no specific threats but has been denounced as apostate, a capital offense in some readings of Islam.
> "Maybe people are speculating that some idiot will come and cut off my head," he said during an interview in his study.
>  
> A few minutes later, an assistant arrived in a panic to say a suspicious-looking digital clock had been found lying in the hallway. Police, called to the scene, declared the clock harmless.
>  
> A convert to Islam at age 15, Prof. Kalisch says he was drawn to the faith because it seemed more rational than others. He embraced a branch of Shiite Islam noted for its skeptical bent. After working briefly as a lawyer, he began work in 2001 on a postdoctoral thesis in Islamic law in Hamburg, to go through the elaborate process required to become a professor in Germany.
>  
> The Sept. 11 attacks in the U.S. that year appalled Mr. Kalisch but didn't dent his devotion. Indeed, after he arrived at Münster University in 2004, he struck some as too conservative. Sami Alrabaa, a scholar at a nearby college, recalls attending a lecture by Prof. Kalisch and being upset by his doctrinaire defense of Islamic law, known as Sharia.
> In private, he was moving in a different direction. He devoured works questioning the existence of Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Then "I said to myself: You've dealt with Christianity and Judaism but what about your own religion? Can you take it for granted that Muhammad existed?"
>  
> He had no doubts at first, but slowly they emerged. He was struck, he says, by the fact that the first coins bearing Muhammad's name did not appear until the late 7th century -- six decades after the religion did.
>  
> He traded ideas with some scholars in Saarbrücken who in recent years have been pushing the idea of Muhammad's nonexistence. They claim that "Muhammad" wasn't the name of a person but a title, and that Islam began as a Christian heresy.
>  
> Prof. Kalisch didn't buy all of this. Contributing last year to a book on Islam, he weighed the odds and called Muhammad's existence "more probable than not." By early this year, though, his thinking had shifted. "The more I read, the historical person at the root of the whole thing became more and more improbable," he says.
>  
> He has doubts, too, about the Quran. "God doesn't write books," Prof. Kalisch says.
> Some of his students voiced alarm at the direction of his teaching. "I began to wonder if he would one day say he doesn't exist himself," says one. A few boycotted his lectures. Others sang his praises.
>  
> Prof. Kalisch says he "never told students 'just believe what Kalisch thinks' " but seeks to teach them to think independently. Religions, he says, are "crutches" that help believers get to "the spiritual truth behind them." To him, what matters isn't whether Muhammad actually lived but the philosophy presented in his name.
>  
> This summer, the dispute hit the headlines. A Turkish-language German newspaper reported on it with gusto. Media in the Muslim world picked up on it.
>  
> Germany's Muslim Coordinating Council withdrew from the advisory board of Prof. Kalisch's center. Some Council members refused to address him by his adopted Muslim name, Muhammad, saying that he should now be known as Sven.
>  
> German academics split. Michael Marx, a Quran scholar at the Berlin-Brandenburg Academy of Sciences, warned that Prof. Kalisch's views would discredit German scholarship and make it difficult for German scholars to work in Muslim lands. But Ursula Spuler-Stegemann, an Islamic studies scholar at the University of Marburg, set up a Web site called solidaritymuhammadkalisch.com and started an online petition of support.
> Alarmed that a pioneering effort at Muslim outreach was only stoking antagonism, Münster University decided to douse the flames. Prof. Kalisch was told he could keep his professorship but must stop teaching Islam to future school teachers.
>  
> The professor says he's more determined than ever to keep probing his faith. He is finishing a book to explain his thoughts. It's in English instead of German because he wants to make a bigger impact. "I'm convinced that what I'm doing is necessary. There must be a free discussion of Islam," he says.
>  
> —Almut Schoenfeld in Berlin contributed to this article.
> Write to Andrew Higgins at andrew.higgins at wsj.com
>  
>  
> TRANSLATED EXCERPTS FROM THE ARTICLE IN GERMAN BY Muhammad Sven Kalisch >>>>>>
>  
> NOVEMBER 14, 2008, 8:10 P.M. ET
> "Excerpt: Muslim Academic Questions Muhammad's Existence" 
> "Below are translated excerpts from an article in German entitled, "Islamic Theology Without the Historic Muhammad -- Comments on the Challenges of the Historical-Critical Method for Islamic Thinking," by Germany's Prof. Muhammad Kalisch, a Muslim." 
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122633888141714211.html#printMode
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> Up to some time ago I was convinced that Muhammad was a historical figure. Although I always based my thinking on the assumption that the Islamic historical narrative regarding Muhammad was very unreliable, I had no doubts that at least the basic lines of his biography were historically correct.
>  
> I have now moved away from this position and will soon publish a book in which I will, among other things, comment on this question and explain my arguments in more detail. This essay is only a short summary of my most important arguments. It also deals with the question of what implications historical-critical research has for the Islamic theory and how I deal with my research results as a theologian.
>  
> With regard to the historical existence of Muhammad ... I consider my position simply as a continuation of the most recent research results. It appears so spectacular only because it has been said by a Muslim ... Most Western scientists turn down such an hypotheses out of respect for Islam or because they are afraid of the reactions of their Muslim friends or because they think it is speculative nonsense.
>  
> The word "respect" sounds wonderful but it is completely inappropriate here because one really refers to the opposite. Whoever thinks that Muslims can't deal with facts puts Muslims on the same level as small children who can't think and decide for themselves and whose illusions of Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny one doesn't want to destroy.
>  
> Whoever really bases his thoughts on the equality of all human beings must expect the same intellectual performance. Really treating Muslims with respect would imply that they are strong enough to deal with their religion on the basis of our modern level of knowledge. "Islamophobes" think we Muslims are barbarians, the "kind-hearted" take us for "noble savages"... The result is the same: Muslims are seen as different from the rest of the world -- they either belong in a "petting zoo" or in cages for wild animals, but by all means they belong in a zoo.
>  
> The final argument is even more awful because it can only be described as cowardly. Religious fundamentalists are spreading out (not only Islamic fundamentalist) and freedom of thought must be defended no matter what. There must not be any compromise on this otherwise we set the track for a retreat into the Middle Ages and this can happen much faster than many people think.
>  
> My position with regard to the historical existence of Muhammad is that I believe neither his existence nor his non-existence can be proven. I, however, lean towards the non-existence but I don't think it can be proven. It is my impression that, unless there are some sensational archeological discoveries -- an Islamic "Qumran" or "Nag Hammadi" -- the question of Muhammad's existence will probably never be finally clarified.
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> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:49:42 +0530
> From: "Aditya Raj Kaul" <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Safety of list-members
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> Thanks Monika for your e-mail. Though I don't understand what was the need
> of this second mail; you had made things clear in the previous one. This
> particular mail hasn't gone just too well of course. I humbly accept the
> 'Code of Conduct' and seriously hope others would as well.
>
> But, in regard with the apology, I don't think only Pawan and I should fall
> under this category. If you re-think and mention the following: 1) Shuddha
> 2) Inder Salim 3) Shivam Vij 4) Aarti Sethi 5) Prakash Ray; atleast as well
> to apologise, for provoking, instigating and maligning the two of us on
> different occasions (just because we are Kashmiri Pandits and speak about
> our community and the plight), hence forcing us to react. I'll follow and be
> the first to apologise.
>
> 1) There has been 'name calling' on us. (Hindu Terrorists, Fundamentalists,
> Extremists etc)
> 2) People wanted to attempt 'sucide' if we openly discussed about this
> particular community.
> 3) We were even asked to 'shut up' more than once.
> 4) Indirect filthy comments have become quite frequent now against us.
> 5) 'Brain gone on a holiday' wasn't a descent way to answer.
> 6) Attacks by a few individuals on our community, religion, Gods etc.
>
> I don't need to substantiate or provide any proof of the same, the list has
> a well maintained archive, which can even easily be accessed through Google
> Search. One may click and few buttons to understand things better.
>
> There is no 'ego' barrier for me to apologise. But 'what for ?' is my
> question. Let the so called 'intellectuals' on this forum clean up their
> language first, be a bit more patient, understanding and as well learn the
> art of peaceful discussion, and academic argument.
>
> Hope the list admin. take note of this.
>
> Thanks
>
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