[Reader-list] FW: HOW TO ESTABLISH THE PRO-HINDU GOVERNMENT IN INDIA?

Pawan Durani pawan.durani at gmail.com
Mon Nov 17 12:13:39 IST 2008 

On 11/17/08, Aarti Sethi <aarti.sethi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cross-posting between lists is perfectly acceptable net practice.


Dear Arti Ji,

Pls go through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette    , if you think
that cross posting is perfectly acceptable net practice.

Rgds

Pawan



Can we
> please desist from making a hue and cry about non-issues.
>
> Regarding the contents of the mail, I have always wondered where there
> victim narrative of the Hindu majority comes from? Especially after the
> Sacchar commitee report i don't there should be any doubt in anyone's mind
> that the majority of social, economic and political power in this country
> is
> concentrated in the hands of the Hindu savarna elite. But from Dadar to
> Dantewada we hear the fictive bogey of hindu victimization...Reading
> history
> would serve us at this moment: in the twentieth century whenever the
> internal rhetoric and public posturing of a dominant community veers
> towards
> a violent narrative of vengeful victimhood, dark times ahead for everyone.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Aditya Raj Kaul
> <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Oh Shivam..Are you a Hindu? ..Thanks for clearing my doubt. :-)
> >
> > Anyways, still Maharashtra ATS has no evidence against the so called
> 'Hindu
> > Terrorists'. Though if found guilty, I would love to ask for their
> > immediate
> > punishment for the same by the court of law.
> >
> > I wonder how urgently and importantly, the ATS has jumped into the
> > investigation and conducted Narco-Analysis, Brain Mapping etc. on Lt.
> > Purohit, Sadhvi Pragya Thakur, and Swami Achrya Dayanand......It has just
> > been 18 years since terrorists Yasin Malik, Bitta Karate and likes are
> > roaming free...Don't they qualify for a similar investigation by the CBI
> ?
> >
> > Moderate Muslims should come out of the four walls and speak against
> their
> > fundamentalist and blind community members spreading terror across India.
> > They should openly condemn these acts and demand for similar treatment to
> > these JKLF goons, who killed and raped several people in Kashmir, which
> led
> > to exodus of half a million souls.
> >
> > JKLF should be yet again banned. Similar Muslim Fundamentalist and
> > terrorist
> > organisations should be dealt with tough hands.
> >
> > P.S. - My friend Sonia Jabbar's forwarded e-mail is against the ethics of
> > an
> > online discussion forum. She has no right to forward such an outsider
> > e-mail, whatever be its content, into the forum. I hope Monike, the list
> > administrator takes note of this.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > On 11/17/08, Shivam V <lists at shivamvij.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Sonia,
> > >
> > > Many thanks for forwarding this illuminating mail to the list. It is
> > > important in the light of the revelations that are appearing day after
> > > day of the involvement of Hindu Indians in several bomb blasts. One
> > > hopes that these will soon reach their logical conclusion and the
> > > guilty be punished.
> > >
> > > With sentences like, "We should hire media professionals and use
> > >
> > > E-mail system, print
> > > and electronic media intelligently and to the fullest possible extent"
> > >
> > > - imagine this kind of thing sent by Muslim fanatics. They would be
> > > immediately picked up and tortured in jail. The sender of such a mail,
> > > if Muslim, would be immediately called Fundamentalist, and with
> > > reason. But when Hindus do it, the rest of the world is
> > > 'pseudo-secular'.
> > >
> > > As a Hindu I condemn the contents of this mail. It is important that
> > > all moderate Hindus break their silence and speak against these
> > > Hindutva rabble-rousers. Muslim clerics have been having huge
> > > congregations to condemn terrorism. It is important than non-Sangh
> > > Hindus from all walks of life hold similar meetings not only to make
> > > public their condemnation but also deliberate on how to rid Hindu
> > > communities of extremist, violent, Islamophobic impulses.
> > >
> > > best
> > > shivam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:13 AM, S. Jabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------ Forwarded Message
> > > > From: IDKPYF <kashmiripandits at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:56:32 +0530
> > > > To: <yourself at gmail.com>
> > > > Subject: HOW TO ESTABLISH THE PRO-HINDU GOVERNMENT IN INDIA?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HOW TO ESTABLISH THE PRO-HINDU
> > > > GOVERNMENT IN INDIA?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > India is a predominantly Hindu nation.  83% of the Indian population
> is
> > > > Hindu.  But it is a matter of great regret that India is the only
> > country
> > > in
> > > > the world where the Hindu majority population is being ruled by the
> > other
> > > > 17% minority communities.
> > > >
> > > > Sonia Maino Gandhi, the President of the ruling Congress Party is a
> > > > practicing Catholic Christian.  Her son Rahul Gandhi who is being
> > groomed
> > > as
> > > > the next Prime Minister of India is also a Christian.  Sonia's
> daughter
> > > > Priyanka Vadera and her husband are also Christians.  India'a Defense
> > > > Minister is A. K. Anthony, a Christian.
> > > >
> > > > Sonia's closest advisors are:  Margaret Alva (resigned yesterday),
> > Oscar
> > > > Fernandes, Ambika Soni, all Christians (yes, despite Ambika's Hindu
> > > sounding
> > > > name, she is a Christian).  India's Vice President is Mohammad Hamid
> > > Ansari.
> > > > Ahmed Patel, Gulam Nabi Azad and Salman Khurshid ­ the core members
> of
> > > > Sonia's think tank ­ are all Muslims.
> > > >
> > > > Dr. Shakeel Ahmad is Minister of State in Home Ministry, a very
> > sensitive
> > > > post.  One more fundamentalist Islamist E. Ahmed, President of the
> > Indian
> > > > Union Muslim League is the Union Minister for External Affairs.  Mr.
> > > Abdul
> > > > Rahman Antulay is the Minority Affairs Minister and Mr. Shafi Qureshi
> > is
> > > the
> > > > Chairman of National Commission on Minorities.  In addition, Sonia's
> > > > handpick Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Y. S. Rajasekhara Reddy is
> also
> > a
> > > > Christian (again, to deceive the gullible Hindu public, he maintains
> a
> > > Hindu
> > > > sounding name).
> > > >
> > > > Prof. Valson Thampu, a Christian theologian, an academic and author,
> > > > Chairman, NCERT Curriculum Review Committee, is a known Hindu
> > > baiter.  Mr.
> > > > John Dayal, Chairman of Indian Catholic Union, notorious for his hate
> > > > mongering proclivity, is playing a very disastrous role in National
> > > > Integration Council.  Anti-Hindu UPA government uses the services of
> > Mr.
> > > > John Dayal and Mr. Kanchan Ilaya, another Hindu hater, to lobby with
> > the
> > > > U.N. and U.S. Congress, to drive a wedge in Hindu society and weaken
> > it.
> > > >
> > > > From the above, it is absolutely clear that India is actually being
> > ruled
> > > > either by the Moslems or by Christians.  The situation for Hindus in
> > > India,
> > > > in short, could be described as abysmally apocalyptic.
> > > >
> > > > While most Hindus are busy in their daily chores like earning a
> living,
> > > > doing yoga, making money, celebrating festivals, enjoying their
> lives,
> > > > building temples, our adversaries have hatched very sinister plans to
> > > > enslave us politically and then obliterate Hindu Dharma from the
> Indian
> > > > soil.  As a matter of fact, the Hindus are under a multi-pronged
> seize.
> > > >
> > > > Muslim population in the world is approximately 1.3 billion.  They
> have
> > > more
> > > > than 54 countries.  It is a paradox that Hindus with approximately
> one
> > > > billion adherents in the world do not have even one country where
> they
> > > could
> > > > live without any fear of being terrorized!
> > > >
> > > > We must rectify this dichotomy at the earliest.
> > > >
> > > > Because of our internal squabbles, in the medieval period, Afghans
> and
> > > > Moguls used us to fight for them and finally they subjugated India.
> >  Now,
> > > > because of our disunity, myopic vision, apathy, selfishness, greed,
> and
> > > > ego-centric attitude, the Islamists, Christians and Communists are
> > vying
> > > > with one another to control Hindus politically.
> > > >
> > > > The next Parliamentary elections are round the corner.  If Hindus
> > really
> > > > want to jettison the anti-Hindu forces (such as Mulayam Singh Yadav,
> > Lalu
> > > > Prasad Yadav, Ramvilas Paswan, the deadly combination of
> > > > Leftists-cum-Islamists), who have entrenched themselves in the
> > corridors
> > > of
> > > > power and reduced Hindus to second class citizens in their own
> country,
> > > > Hindus have to shed their squeamishness, and make a Machiavellian
> move
> > to
> > > > end this sordid chapter of servitude and vulnerability.
> > > >
> > > > Here are some of the suggestions which if implemented seriously could
> > > bring
> > > > the desired results:
> > > >
> > > > 1.        First of all, Hindus have to set their own house in order.
> > > > RSS/VHP/BJP/ ABVP/Bajrang Dal/Shiv Sena/Akali Dal and other
> Hindu-Sikh
> > > > groups should put their heads together and take an oath in the name
> of
> > > God
> > > > that they would use all the resources at their disposal to ensure the
> > > > victory of Hindu forces at any cost. They have to pledge sincerely
> that
> > > they
> > > > would not say or do anything that would create a rift in the Hindu
> > United
> > > > Front.
> > > >
> > > > 2.        There are 150,000 millionaires and 40 billionaires in India
> ­
> > > > mostly Hindus.  Further, the assets of NRIs alone are worth one
> > trillion
> > > US
> > > > dollars.  This colossal financial power of Hindus has to be used
> > properly
> > > to
> > > > revitalize and reinvigorate the Hindu nation.  We have to convince
> our
> > > > wealthy brothers that their riches will be reduced to zero in the
> next
> > 75
> > > > years, if Hindus become a minority in India, as it happened in
> > Pakistan,
> > > > Bangladesh and Indian Kashmir.
> > > >
> > > > 3.        We have to devise appropriate methods to approach these
> > wealthy
> > > > Hindus and encourage them to form a cartel of Hindu millionaires/
> > > > billionaires.  We should urge all our Hindu brothers to play the role
> > of
> > > > Bhama Shah who had offered his entire wealth to Maharana Pratap Singh
> > to
> > > > fight the Mogul tyrant Akbar.
> > > >
> > > > 4.        We should assuage the hurt feelings of our Hindu brothers,
> > > Sadhus
> > > > and Sant Samaj who have grievances against the BJP and win back their
> > > trust.
> > > > Then, we should organize and mobilize Dharmacharyas with the help of
> > > Acharya
> > > > Sabha and Vishwa Hindu Parishad.  If all of them work with a
> missionary
> > > > zeal, we could certainly turn the tables on our opponents.
> > > >
> > > > 5.        We should also feverishly try to bring back in our fold the
> > > > leaders like Dr. Subramanian Swamy, Uma Bharati and others.  We
> should
> > > > suitably accommodate leaders like Kalyan Singh and Vinay
> Katiyar.  (In
> > > the
> > > > past, we have sought cooperation of Mayawati, Mulayam Singh, Ram
> Vilas
> > > > Paswan, several times. Now, there is no harm in taking back our own
> > > people
> > > > without humiliating them.)
> > > >
> > > > 6.        We should hire media professionals and use E-mail system,
> > print
> > > > and electronic media intelligently and to the fullest possible
> extent.
> > > >
> > > > 7.        If Hindus vote strategically, it is not hard at all to form
> a
> > > > pro-Hindu government in India.  Everything depends on how
> > > enthusiastically,
> > > > forcefully and honestly we work.
> > > >
> > > > 8.        If we manage to bring the 40% Hindu population to the
> polling
> > > > booths, we can easily form a pro-Hindu government.  I do not think it
> > is
> > > a
> > > > stupendous task.
> > > >
> > > > 9.        Our leaders should learn to speak with unshakeable
> confidence
> > > in
> > > > their capability and inflexible determination to achieve the
> requisite
> > > > results.
> > > >
> > > > 10.   If the BJP leaders come up with a clear cut resolve and message
> > > that
> > > > upon being voted to power they would extripate terrorism from the
> > Indian
> > > > soil, I am absolutely certain that all the Hindu-Sikh people will
> vote
> > > for
> > > > BJP.
> > > >
> > > > 11.   Our leaders and volunteers should shun the lackadaisical
> > attitude.
> > > We
> > > > should carry on no-holds-barred high-decibel campaign to denounce and
> > > > discredit our adversaries.
> > > >
> > > > 12.   There are about 50 Parliamentary seats in India where non-Hindu
> > > votes
> > > > do not count.  We would suggest that VHP, Uma Bharati and other
> staunch
> > > > Hindu leaders in consultation with BJP and RSS strategically field
> > their
> > > > candidates in these places.  However, all the parties should ensure
> > that
> > > > Hindu votes are not polarized.
> > > >
> > > > 13.   BJP can rake up a ruckus in their election campaigning on the
> > > question
> > > > of exorbitant price rise and, thereby, they can utilize voters'
> > > > disenchantment with the government in its favor.
> > > >
> > > > We have to affirm: "Enough is enough."  For the survival of Hindu
> > > > civilization, it is absolutely essential that Hindus wake up from the
> > > deep
> > > > slumber and learn to work in unison.  There is no time for
> > > dilly-dallying.
> > > >
> > > > The global race for conquering the soul of India is going on apace.
> > > > Furthermore, we are familiar with the well-known adage that time and
> > tide
> > > > wait for none.  Therefore, cudgel up your sleeves and be ready to
> take
> > > > control of your destiny in your own hands.
> > > >
> > > > We should also remember that limitations are only in the mind.  In
> > > reality,
> > > > nothing is truly unattainable for those who dream big.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ll Dharm ki Jay Ho, Adharm ka naash ho ll
> > > > ll Satya Sanatan Hindu Dharma ki Jay ll
> > > >
> > > > ''Dharmo Rakshati Rakshitaha''
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------ End of Forwarded Message
> > > >
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