[Reader-list] Help with a phrase

Sat Oct 18 12:08:10 IST 2008

Hey Sanjay!
I did not know Jashn-e-Azadi was a blockbuster movie! I was under the
impression that it was rather sombre documentary... but then, the real
documentaries on Kashmir had Shammy Kapoor rolling in the snow and singing
yahoooo or saira banu preening as the kashmir ki kali; and then there was
the starkly real Roja, and more recently Yahaan.While Manirathnam makes
documentaries, you are the real blockuster maker, funded surely by the
Mumbai underworld (of course, also the terror-funders)...
Anand

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul
<kauladityaraj at gmail.com>wrote:

> Well said Lalitji. I need not say anything more. Its self explanatory.
>
> Just wanted to add something interesting in a news item; informing people
> about Syed Ali Shah Geelani's surgery in the Indian Capital. In a
> blockbuster movie titled "Jashn-e-Aazadi" (read: Freedom to kill Kashmiri
> Pandits) directed by none other than Sanjay Kak (Need I say more?!);
> Geelani
> goes on to say; even if they (India) lay roads of gold for us; we won't
> accept them. We'll boycott just everything.
>
> Wonder how the Indian Pacemaker works out well with him? Indian Pacemaker
> Battery is worse? He shouldn't take chances I guess. Read the attached
> story
> for more on this.
>
>  I'll return hale and hearty: Geelani*
>
> Rising Kashmir News*
>
> Srinagar, Oct 10: Two days ahead of his departure for treatment in Delhi,
> Hurriyat Conference (G) chairman, Syed Ali Geelani expressed hope that he
> will return home hale and hearty after the surgery.
>
> "Indian agencies attacked me 14 times but they could not take away even my
> single hair. I will be return soon hale and hearty after undergoing
> treatment in Delhi's Escorts hospital," the septuagenarian leader said.
>
> Geelani said the pacemaker in his heart installed on April 25, 1997 is one
> of the longest living pacemakers. "Its battery has to be replaced and
> people
> should not work. It will be a normal treatment," said Geelani.
>
> "Doctors SKIMS has advised me to go for the intestinal checkup
> (gastroenterology) at Delhi. I will leave for treatment to Delhi Sunday
> afternoon and will be treated by the doctors at Escorts hospital," he
> added.
>
> Geelani to have pacemaker change
> Kashmir Watch
>
> Srinagar, Oct 8: Hurriyat Conference (G) Chairman, Syed Ali Geelani, was
> discharged from Sher-e-Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences, Soura, with
> an
> advice for a pacemaker change in New Delhi's Escort's Hospital.
>
>  He is likely to leave for New Delhi on October, 12 but will attend the
> Co-ordination Committee meet scheduled for today.
>
> Thanks
> Aditya Raj Kaul
>
>
> On 10/15/08, Lalit Ambardar <lalitambardar at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is no ignorance but a syndrome. Quite typical of those who refuse to
> > see or hear any thing that doesn't suit their senses or their uni-track
> > ideological persuasions or personal interests. Anyway here is the update.
> >
> >   "Azadi- bara- e- Islam" (freedom through Islam) is just an improvised
> > version of those more familiar provocations  like "hum ko kya chahiye-
> > azadi, azadi ka matlab kya- la ilah e ilallah" (what do we
> > want-independence, what dose independence mean- la ilah e ilallah) and
> > "yahan kya chalega –Nizam e Mustafa" (what will rule here- Nizam e
> Mustafa)
> > etc.etc. (it is hoped ignorance is not feigned about these as well) often
> > resorted to by the Kashmiri pan Islaimists seeking secession of Muslim
> > majority Kashmir valley from India.
> >
> > This one 'azadi bara e Islam' was raised recently when the Kashmiri pan
> > Islamists exhibited rabid intolerance against the allocation of a mere
> 100
> > acres of land for temporary facilities along arduous Amarnath pilgrimage
> > route by none other than that senior Islamist who also attempted to seek
> > exclusive leadership rights in his favour from the zealots much to the
> > annoyance of the other contenders. He is the guy who was airlifted in a
> > state owned aircraft from Ranchi jail to Mumbai for treatment not long
> ago.
> > Oh, yes he is also seen in that 'devotional' film 'Jashn e azadi'
> consoling
> > the wailing relatives of dead militants & justifying their martyrdom
> citing
> > holy scriptures.
> >
> >   What is so particular about the period 2003-2008?Yes, this is the
> > period  when tourism has picked up in Kashmir,  property values have gone
> up
> > – properties left by exiled Hindu Pandits usurped & sold & resold on
> > premium- you have malls & above all you see all those terror commanders
> who
> > should be tried for crimes against humanity going around as politicians (
> > makeover courtesy same self acclaimed unitrack liberal mindset).
> >
> > And what about the period 1989-90, when the process of ethnic cleansing
> of
> > Hindu Pandits was launched? By the way, there was this rabid one then
> "asy
> > gasce Pakistan- batav rocs ta batnev san" (we want Pakistan- along with
> the
> > Hindu Pandit women but without the Pandit men) or that killer one "Raliv,
> > galiv, ya caliv" (join, perish or flee). These were some of the rants
> along
> > with the then freshly acquired AK47s that were used against the
> beleaguered
> > Hindu Pandits. Doesn't suit the senses so feign ignorance. Or is it that
> > 'devotional' films are not expected to show gory pictures of brutalities
> > committed by the protagonists.
> >
> >
> > And yes, it is heartening to know that 'frozen turbulence is finally
> being
> > referred to albeit selectively to suit the senses.
> > Regards all
> > LA
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:55:54 +0530> From: kaksanjay at gmail.com> To:
> > reader-list at sarai.net> Subject: [Reader-list] Help with a phrase> >
> Since
> > this List is fast emerging as a one-stop resource on all things to do>
> with
> > Kashmir, I wonder if someone could help with a phrase that I've started>
> > encountering quite frequently in posts here: 'azadi bara e islam'
> (freedom>
> > through Islam), presumably as a slogan raised in/about Kashmir.> Since
> this
> > is not a slogan that I've heard in Kashmir in the period 2003-08,> and or
> > even encountered (oops! bad word) in my reading of old classics such> as
> > Jagmohan's "My Frozen Turbulence", I would really like to know what the>
> > provenance of this phrase is.> Is this a recent slogan in Kashmir? Is it
> an
> > old one?> With all thanks for the help> Sanjay Kak>
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