[Reader-list] Real Face of Terrorist Yasin Malik

[Syed Yunus]

May be I m wrong while using 'ruling kashmir' what i meant was young leaders
who will determine the future.

I can understand how terrorising it must be to  face the bullets, for any
body.

Also there are numerous version of Nizam-e- mustafa & not  not only islamic
state, For instance I'm an indian, which is not an Islamic state still I get
ample scope to follow Nizam-e-Mustafa, while dealing with people, doing
business, being a community member of the neighbourhood, doing charity,
while travelling in other countries. performing my work duties etc. and I do
all this openly with out any guilt (or commiting any crime) because it does
not harm any body ( not even verbally)

also the true Nizam-e mustafa do not approve of terrorising people at gun
point :)
but it clearly stops people to say bad words or malign somebody.

Im keen on listening you &  other people on this list,


best,

Yunus



On 10/24/08, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Syed bhai,
>
> I had no intention to terrorise you, my friend Sonia or anybody on this
> list
> for that matter. I just put forth my honest opinion.
>
> If you got so terrified and threatned by mere one line in my e-mail; I'm
> sure you can imagine what happened to thousands of people when Yasin Malik
> and his gang members shuddered bullets into innocent people of Kashmir; for
> just no reason. The insane Yasin Malik calls this freedom struggle. What
> kind of freedom is this; where he openly kills anyone in broad day-light ?
>
> There isa wide difference between us 'Kashmiri Pandits' and the
> 'terrorists'. We don't speak of ruling Kashmir. They do; they want to carve
> out an Islamic State - Nizam-e-Mustama. We are happy Indians as always and
> don't suffer from hypocritic mentality of these 'terrorists' who want to
> eliminate the 'minority'.
>
> Future of Kashmir is dark till figures like Yasin Malik roam free and enjoy
> the cream from all areas. Lets make present better.
>
> Thanks
> Aditya Raj Kaul
>
> On 10/24/08, Syed Yunus <delhi.yunus at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Aditya,
> >
> > I found your reply threatening & terrorising Sonia jabbar for not
> speaking
> > for you & your cause,
> >
> > qoating you
> >
> > "I sympathise with you Sonia; of whatever pain you suffered at India
> Gate.
> > It
> > was a cowardly act and unfortunate. However, this is the least one could
> > suffer after encouraging a terrorist openly and further justifying his
> > acts."
> >
> > to clarify my stand  im not a fan of Yaseen Malik, or any other person
> whom
> > you call terrorist.
> >
> > also I was wondering what would happen when you or other kashmiri young
> > leaders will rule the kashmir, i mean certainly there must be some
> thoughts
> > about the future of kashmir & its people, there is lot to do after
> > intimidating & terrorising people.
> >
> > best,
> >
> > Yunus
> >
> > On 10/24/08, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> My dear friend Sonia Jabbar. It was a Times Now News item on Internet;
> the
> >> picture displayed; was self-explanatory and informative, so I decided to
> >> share it with the List members. Anyways, Thanks for refreshing my memory
> >> back into early 2007, when this terrorist Yasin Malik led your protest
> >> early
> >> in the morning of Feb. 22nd at Jantar Mantar near CP. I believe it was
> the
> >> same day; Yasin Malik chose to have a hunger strike, and was later seen
> >> enjoying mutton with Kasuri; while the very same mother's you mentioned
> >> were
> >> crying at the protest site. Nevertheless; it is certainly none of my
> >> business. :-)
> >>
> >> There is a lot of imagination which has resulted in your last e-mail;
> >> things
> >> need to be much more clear. Let me clarify a few myself. We had no
> >> intention
> >> to harm anybody; we merely had come to protest against a psychopath
> killer
> >> Yasin Malik. This cowardly act of some "Delhi group' of yours which you
> >> don't feel important to mention doesn't go in a good way.
> >>
> >> We all stood their opposite your protest gathering; raising slogans
> >> against
> >> Yasin Malik's presence. Despite our peaceful means; by your and those
> MP's
> >> (other powers) orders we 15-25 youth were forced into a barracde by the
> >> ACP
> >> of that area. Some of us were even beaten and arrested. Our crime was
> only
> >> that we were holding the tri-clolour and raising slogans against a
> >> terrorist
> >> peacefully. Some 300 Delhi Police Jawans and other para-military
> personnel
> >> surrounded us there suddenly.
> >>
> >> Early evening we ended our protest after Police released some of our
> >> activists who were earlier arrested. We called it a day then itself; and
> >> moved towards our respective homes. Late at night we received calls from
> >> Media and Police; questioning us on the incident which took place at
> India
> >> Gate. We had no information on it. Late into the night through some
> media
> >> sources we came to know that "Shiv Sena" members had taken
> responsibility
> >> into this incident.
> >>
> >> We 'Kashmiri Pandits' don't believe in harming others physically, that
> is
> >> a
> >> coward's sign. Yasin Malik being one of them who mindlessly raped,
> >> kidnapped
> >> and killed hundreds of innocent Hindus in the valley which led to the
> >> exodus
> >> of half a million souls. He didn't even leave IAF personnel and killed
> >> them
> >> on a bus stop; not to mention how he killed Kashmiri Muslim women; just
> >> because they were close to Kashmiri Pandits. If you still want to blame
> us
> >> and that makes you happy, I won't stop you. You can live with your
> >> imagination friend :-)
> >>
> >> I wonder, how could you organise such a public gathering; with a
> terrorist
> >> being a part of such act. I'm sure you must have thought a thousand
> times
> >> before such a drastic step.
> >>
> >> Also, How do you question our right to protest? Do you just always have
> a
> >> problem with RIK protesting against your friend Terrorist Yasin Malik?
> Why
> >> shouldn't we protest?
> >>
> >> Later, days after this event, a journalist believed to be close to JKLF
> >> Gang
> >> members, sent me a threatening e-mail; questioning my right to protest
> >> that
> >> very day. I need not mention more or else they might just harm me.
> >>
> >> Similarly, you mentioned about the Amnesty International event at Siri
> >> Fort.
> >> I don't know who briefed you about our protest; surely he/she didn't
> know
> >> the facts in totality. The protest was organised against the biased
> >> reporting conducted by Amnesty International India; on the occasion of
> >> 60th
> >> Anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. I don't
> >> understand
> >> where "Sonia Jabbar" or her clicked photographs come in picture here.
> They
> >> must have been in some corner inside; that was none of our business; we
> >> were
> >> outside the auditorium; silently protesting. If you still have some
> >> doubts;
> >> please visit the following link which has photographs, details and even
> >> media cuttings of the event : -
> >>
> >>
> http://kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com/2008/01/kashmiri-pandits-protest-against.html
> >>
> >> I hope I've answered all your questions at length. I won't ask for any
> >> apology from you; this propaganda has become a trend now which we face
> on
> >> and off. Just to tease 'Kashmiri Pandit Community' which has constantly
> >> lived under the threat of terrorist organisation JKLF; a terrorist Yasin
> >> Malik is time and again flown to New Delhi given all 5-star treatment,
> and
> >> put in front of media glare as an Icon. Shame on those who glorify such
> >> killers and then say we sympathise with the victims. Understand the
> >> difference between a 'victim' and a 'terrorist'.
> >>
> >> I sympathise with you Sonia; of whatever pain you suffered at India
> Gate.
> >> It
> >> was a cowardly act and unfortunate. However, this is the least one could
> >> suffer after encouraging a terrorist openly and further justifying his
> >> acts.
> >> I for sure cannot take your e-mail so casually, where you openly mention
> >> of
> >> supporting a terrorist. Why ?
> >>
> >> I welcome your support for Pandits. But, Sonia let me inform you,
> inviting
> >> this bloody terrorist Yasin Malik'; would be indirectly inviting 'Roots
> In
> >> Kashmir' always. Please don't compare a terrorist with "an entire
> >> community'
> >> which was thrown out of the valley at gun point. Its strange and sad;
> why
> >> you don't stand up and raise your voice against the dastardly acts of
> >> terrorism committed by Yasin Malik and his gang ? I dare you to campaign
> >> for
> >> this.
> >>
> >> Its easy to write hundreds of words for such a person; but it is
> difficult
> >> to stand hand in hand with a 'minority' for Justice. Its been 18 years
> >> now,
> >> Sonia.
> >>
> >> In exile,
> >>
> >> Aditya Raj Kaul
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/24/08, S. Jabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I thank Aditya Raj Kaul for posting the link with the photograph of
> >> Yasin
> >> > Malik's paint spattered face.  Now I'm pretty convinced it was his
> >> > handiwork, despite Roots-in-Kashmir swearing to me that none of them
> had
> >> > anything to do with the attack on my car.
> >> >
> >> > I said it then and I will say it again-- now publicly-- the attack was
> >> > cowardly and despicable and that Aditya still chooses to snigger about
> >> it a
> >> > year and a half later is shameful.
> >> >
> >> > For those on the List who are unaware, here is what happened:
> >> >
> >> > In Feb. 2007 the mothers and wives of the victims of enforced
> >> > disappearances
> >> > in Kashmir, a group of about 60, came for a public hearing at Jantar
> >> > Mantar.
> >> > The event was organised by a group of Delhi based citizens, myself
> >> > included.
> >> > Yasin Malik and some other separatist leaders lent support to the
> event.
> >> >
> >> > It was a day-long event where woman after woman appealed to the
> >> conscience
> >> > of India.  Their message was simple: we don't want jobs or
> compensation,
> >> > just tell us if our children are dead or alive.  If they are alive
> allow
> >> us
> >> > to meet them, if they are dead, tell us so we can arrange for their
> last
> >> > rites and bury forever the hopes and fears that have tortured us for
> >> years.
> >> >
> >> > Instead of reaching out to these women-- a few who had only just
> exhumed
> >> > their loved ones at an unmarked grave in Ganderbal the week
> >> before--  and
> >> > making common cause with them, Roots-in-Kashmir decided to hold a
> noisy
> >> > protest across the street.
> >> >
> >> > Why? Simply because Yasin Malik, Sajad Lone and Syed Ali Shah Geelani
> >> had
> >> > arrived to express solidarity.  FYI invitations were sent out to all
> MPs
> >> > across party lines, and none besides Nirmala Deshpande came to the
> >> public
> >> > event. Had a few decided to express solidarity I wonder what
> >> > Roots-in-Kashmir would have done.  It was shameful to see old women
> >> weeping
> >> > and begging to be told the truth while a group of angry young Kashmiri
> >> > Pandits screamed and hurled invectives from across the street.
> >> >
> >> > That evening after the event we decided to proceed to the India Gate
> >> lawns
> >> > just so the women could relax for a bit before returning to the
> >> guesthouse
> >> > for the night.  The bus was full so Yasin got into my car.  As I
> turned
> >> at
> >> > the Meridien circle, something burst against my dashboard and half
> >> blinded
> >> > me.  I braked instinctively. When at last I had managed to wash the
> muck
> >> > out
> >> > of my eye and mouth from the bottle of water in the car, I saw that
> the
> >> > plastic bag full of some ghastly, indelible ink, which was obviously
> >> meant
> >> > for Yasin Malik had missed its target, splashing his cheek
> >> insignificantly.
> >> > Whereas, like most terror attacks, I was the victim, the collateral
> >> damage.
> >> > The irony was not lost on me.
> >> >
> >> > My eye watered for the next 24 hours despite medication.  It took more
> >> than
> >> > a week for ink to fade from my skin.  My clothes were ruined forever
> and
> >> > had
> >> > to be discarded.  My car still carries dark stains as fresh as the day
> >> of
> >> > the attack despite repeated efforts by the garage. But I was grateful
> to
> >> > have gotten off lightly. Had I been driving a little faster I knew I
> >> could
> >> > have crashed into the circle or into another car.
> >> >
> >> > I cannot take Aditya's post lightly.  Roots in Kashmir, of which
> Aditya
> >> is
> >> > a
> >> > member, has never apologized for the action.  Of course they will say
> >> how
> >> > can we apologize for something we didn't do.  Indeed you cannot, and I
> >> have
> >> > no proof that it was you or some other cowardly group, but Aditya
> >> betrayed
> >> > his gleeful approval of the event and this is what I question now.
> >> >
> >> > I also question the decision of Roots in Kashmir to hold a protest at
> >> the
> >> > Amnesty photography show earlier this year.  I was not present but
> heard
> >> > about it later.  Since the only photographs in the large group show
> that
> >> > had
> >> > to do with Kashmir were my photographs on enforced disappearances I
> >> assume
> >> > the protest was directed either at me and my work, or the victims of
> >> > enforced disappearances.  Why is it that Roots could not countenance
> the
> >> > exhibition, why did they want to shut me up? Was the work a pack of
> >> lies,
> >> > was it propaganda? Or does RIK have a problem with work that denounces
> >> > State
> >> > terrorism?
> >> >
> >> > As someone who has for years extended support to Pandits who were
> >> targeted
> >> > in the early '90s, I find it both amusing and sad that a group of
> >> Pandits
> >> > find it intolerable when I extend similar support to other victims of
> >> > violence in Kashmir. I can only say you damage your own cause by this
> >> > attitude: if you cannot find it within you to identify with the pain
> of
> >> > others, you will find it increasingly difficult to find others to
> >> identify
> >> > with yours.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sonia Jabbar
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > From: Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
> >> > > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:11:11 +0530
> >> > > To: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> >> > > Subject: [Reader-list] Real Face of Terrorist Yasin Malik
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > The real face of Terrorist Yasin Malik :-) ...lol
> >> >
> >> > check here -
> >> > > http://www.timesnow.tv/NewsDtls.aspx?NewsID=19235
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Aditya Raj
> >> > > Kaul
> >> >
> >> > Campaign Blog: http://kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com/
> >> > Personal Blog:
> >> > > http://activistsdiary.blogspot.com/
> >> >
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Aditya Raj Kaul
> >>
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> >>
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