[Reader-list] "Say BIG NO to Diwali"

we wi dhatr1i at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 27 12:15:18 IST 2008


As there is no need to respond for this kind of mails, but as this contain lot of false ,hatred data/contents and angust, I just try to clarify 
 
 
Its better to think,read, write about the things that are possible practically. Shivam I have a doubt?  Why do you call that pradeep as a Dalit?  Shivam aur Tapas tum log naam badal do yaar sab ko acha lagta hain.
 
 
 The KSHATRIY(2nd Hindu caste out of the 4) PRINCE GAUTAMA/SIDHARTHA RAN OUT OF HIS VARNA,ASHRAMA DHARMAS(Responsibilities). He is so sensitive and chooses night time to leave everything(kingdom,parents,wife,son) to achieve enlightenment. Gautam Budda is the 9th avatar of VISHNU, Hence as per the time Buddism is not a separate religion but its a part and parcel of Hindu religion.  Next Hindu religion is some thing beyond BRAHMINS not only you but everybody must understand.  BRAHMINS practiced the religion mostly.
 
   Who is BALI  a demon(RAKSHAS/ASURA) king(not a tribal king because there are no DALITS exists at that time but only caste that exist is SHUDRA) and who is his guru(master) Shukracharya a BRAHMIN, tried to save him.  As everybody suffered with Bali activities,  VISHNU TOOK BIRTH AS VAMAN and restored the peace.  During the process SHUKRACHARYA lost his eye.  Both VISHNU and BALI are very much safe in the history.
VISHNU TOOK FURTHER AVATARS to maintain peace and BALI remembered till the date on MAKAR SANKRAMAN(SANKRANTHI).
 
The existing things of the time are 1.SURA 2.ASURA 3.BRAHMIN,KSHYATRIY,VAISYA,SHUDRA castes 4.DEMI GODS LIKE GANDHARV,YAKSH,KINNER,KIMPURUSH 5.HOLY TREES
KALPA VRUKSH AND KAMADHENU like that................
 
    Hence in GEETA, Krishna(avatar or vishnu) SAID,
      
     YADA YADA HI DHARMASYA GLANIRBHAVATI BHARATA
     ABHUTHANAM ADHARMASYA TADATMANAM SRIJAMYAHAM!
 
     PARITRANAYA SADHUNAM VINASAYACHA DUSHKRUTAM
     DHARMA SAMSTHAPA NARDHAYA SAMBHAVAMI YUGE YUGE!
 
Also WHETHER ANYBODY LIKE IT/FOND OF OR NOT, IT DOESN'T MATTER BUT BHAGAVAN VISHNU IS FOND OF BRAHMINS. 
 
>From Vishnu sahasranam:
 
brahmanyo brahmakrit brahmaa brahma brahmavivardhanah
brahmavid braahmano brahmee brahmagno braahmanapriyah.
 
the meaning of these 10 words:
 
1.He that is the foremost object of silent recitation, of sacrifice, of the Vedas, and of all 
    religious acts 
2.He that is the Creator of penances and the like 
3.He that is the form of (the grandsire) Brahma 
4.The Biggest, the Vastest, the All-pervading 
5.He that is the augmentor of penances 
6.He that is conversant with Brahma 
7.He that is the form of Brahmana (Brahmin) 
8.He that has for His limbs Him that is called Brahma 
9.He that knows all the Vedas and everything in the universe 
10.He that is always fond of Brahmanas (Brahmins) and of whom the Brahmanas 
     (Brahmins) also are fond 
 
     To understand the greatness and spirit your life mylife and any body else life is not sufficient hence I request to please stop gossips.  Nothing much. 
 
Regards,
Dhatri.
A PRACTITIONER! 


--- On Sun, 10/26/08, Shivam Vij शिवम् <mail at shivamvij.com> wrote:

From: Shivam Vij शिवम् <mail at shivamvij.com>
Subject: [Reader-list] "Say BIG NO to Diwali"
To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 6:24 PM

Dear friends,

Given below is an article by a Dalit Buddhist that some of you may
find interesting.

best
shivam

o o o o o o

Say BIG NO to Diwali

By Pardeep

Children have never been very good at listening to their elders, but
they have never failed to imitate them. – James Baldwin

"History of India is nothing but the battle between Buddhism &
Brahmanism." – Dr. B R Ambedkar. In India, the so called followers of
Hinduism are gullible (naive) people those are following Brahmanism in
the form of sugar coated Hinduism. From generation to generation
Brahmans have spread many crooked stories to befool masses & to keep
Dalit-Bahujans following Brahmanical culture. All these Brahmanical
crooked stories have made such a psychological impact over people that
they are bound to follow these rituals without knowing the reality
behind these fraudulent stories!!

Hindus says "Light lamps & Laxmi (money) will flow into your
house."
How it can be possible scientifically that lighting candles will make
money to come? If it would have be true people those are living in
remote areas, people those don't have access to electricity would have
be millionaire by now, as they use candles for lighting purpose
throughout year!! Goddess Laxmi this year might have forgotten the
path to India & have made Indian economy to reach lower of the
lowest!!

Mr. KOVENA rightly said in the book named "The Hidden History" page
no. 19 that "Hindu means thief in Persian language & Hinduism mean
country of thieves, Hindus feel proud of being thief."

Jawaharlal Nehru in his book "Discovery of India" at page no. 204-5
writes that the festivals like Holi, Diwali & Dussehra are imitation
of the Greek festivals. At page no. 235, Nehru explains that the
Brahmins are not a caste but an organisation who would offer their
daughters for the guests. Page no. 37 states "Hinduism as a faith is
vague, amorphous, many sided, all things to all men. It is hardly
possible to define it, or indeed to say definitely whether it is a
religion or not, in the usual sense of the word. In its present form,
and even in the past, it embraces many beliefs and practices, from the
highest to the lowest, often opposed to or contradicting each other."

Here lies the reality of Diwali festival:

On this day Great Gana king (tribal) Bali was murdered by Waman- a
Brahman by cheating. If people want to celebrate this day, celebrate
in the name of King Bali, a Bahujan virtuous king.

Bhikhu Mahamodgalyayan was murdered by Brahmans on this day.

After murder of Buddhists in the rule of Pushyamitra Shung this day
was celebrated as "Eekadashi". Pushyamitra killed many Buddhists
monks, destroyed Buddha Vihars, burnt Buddhist literature in 200 BC.
Many Buddhist places were converted in Hindu temples. After this
Buddhism started diminishing & Brahmanism started strengthening.

When Aryans came from Egypt through Iran, China they brought their
culture with themselves & the so called "Hindu Vedas" are
imitation of
Egypt & Iranian books with little bit change in rules.

"Ram" on the name of which this festival is celebrated is a
fictitious
character, even supreme court of India has denied the existence of so
called "Ram", hence where lies the logic of Hindus to celebrate? Many
scholars do agree that "Pushyamitra Shung" was the so called
"Ram
Chandar" who imposed many laws on Dalit-Bahujans & stopped their
progress. Ramayana was written afterwards to befool non Brahmans.

So called "Ram" (Pushyamitra Shung) killed Shudra rishi Shambuk, who
was practicing meditation just because he was from lower caste & lower
caste people don't have the right to meditate!!

Hindus worship Laxmi -- Goddess of Money but the surveys conducted
proved that still 77% people are alive on the daily income of Rs.20,
what to eat and what to wear?? All other developed countries like US,
UK etc there are no god and goddess like Saraswati or Laxmi but still
maximum of the population are literate and rich in comparison to
India. Hindus have embossed the mental slavery which had shut down all
doors to be rational thinking. Apart from above there is increase of
Asthma patients by 15% every year because of air pollution, by
spending thousands on crackers we are doing nothing but increasing
Asthma patients. Also by spending thousands on crackers we hope that
Laxmi (money) was come, how it can be possible? The problem with Hindu
people is that they never rational and not ready to be literate and
this make the Indian heritage rich with poor people rather slaves
meant for slavery.

"Diwali" is nowhere mentioned in Ramayana of Rishi Valmiki or
Tulsidas. But term Diwali find place in Jain books & exact dates are
mentioned in Jain scriptures. As Buddha Purnima is celebrated, the day
of enlightenment of Lord Buddha same way in Jainism this "Diwali" is
a
day of nirvana of Lord Mahavira. But now a day's whole motive & real
facts have been vanished in time & gullible people are celebrating it
with different motive like earning money & to do business.

All the fallacious stories – gateway to establish Brahmanical culture
& allied fests look harmless when seen be common eye, but in reality
these mythical stories are deadliest weapon to destroy Dalit-Bahujans
culture & to impose Brahmanical culture. Once Dalit-Bahujans will lose
their identity, hence they'll not have any other option than to follow
the imposed Brahmanical culture. Hence we should immediately discard
the Hindu rituals, ceremonies, pilgrimages, festivals those have made
us slaves & we should follow the 22 vows given by Dr. B R Ambedkar if
we really want that our Dalit-Bahujan society live with pride &
dignity.


Pardeep
pardeepattri @ yahoo.co.in
26th October 2008

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