[Reader-list] one more Kashmiri Pundit email

Wed Oct 29 11:46:07 IST 2008

haha!What about TAPAS? 

To know about a child film maker who is also like a child and about his community,  we subscribed to this list and by mails on this list just struck.

Until we subscribe this we never know this much venom/myth is spreading across the globe about INDIA. We never know the happenings of the other side of INDIA.  Once we come to know how can we keep quiet.  Despite of my whatever schedules I can able to spend at least 10 minutes for my beloved great COUNTRY INDIA AND ITS DEVELOPMENT.

Its unfortunate to know that people confused on who is Hindu,what is Hinduism and how is it survived?.  We is with you and so as the entire nation. 

Dhatri.

--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] one more Kashmiri Pundit email
To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 11:57 PM

Rahul and others,

I'm deliberately not participating in this unfortunate discussion initiated
by some 'Kirdar Singh'. There is no point in asking someone to keep
mum. Why
should he unless he has some agenda or else not able to understand one's
plight (in this case doesn't want to: ignorance)? This is quite similar to
the typical Inder Salim Syndrome.

I only wish things would have been better. Anyways, the best I can suggest
Kirdar ji is to either unsubscribe or else be a little more understanding
and empathetic.

If you follow what people like Shivam Vij suggest; then only God can be of
some help. He hesitates to answer when a logical question is raised by Pawan
Durani. In spite of his 'no knowledge' on Kashmir; he tries his best to
act
as the voice of the separatists or more extreme into 'anti-Kashmiri
Pandit'
hate campaign. Such people have no moral right to participate in such a
discussion. They are from a confused lot; journalist, propagandist or
nothing...quite confused...!!!

Kindly I appeal to all list members, to act a bit understanding and
understand the plight of the forgotten Kashmiri Pandits.

P.S. - You can simply delete mails if you don't want to participate in any
of the discussions taking place here. I suppose almost all e-mail providers
including gmail, rediffmail, yahoo, indiatimes etc have a delete facility.
So, no more of junk by Shivam and Inder. :-)

Thanks
Aditya Raj Kaul

On 10/28/08, Rahul Asthana <rahul_capri at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Kirdar Sahib,
> You say-
>
> "By banging your head again and again on
> the computer you are hurting yourself and us. "
>
> Who is "us" here? Can you please delineate what differentiates
between
> "yourself" and "us"? Do "us" have certain
qualities that "yourself" don't
> and vice versa?
>
> Thanks
>
> --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Kirdar <kirdarsingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Kirdar <kirdarsingh at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] one more Kashmiri Pundit email
> > To: "Lalit Ambardar" <lalitambardar at hotmail.com>
> > Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 11:30 PM
>
> > Dear Lalit
> > Please don't misunderstand this. There is no one on
> > this list who
> > laughs at the plight of Kashmiri Pundits - no body is
> > against you or
> > in favour of Islamic terrorists who drove the pundits out
> > of Kashmir.
> > Please understand this basic difference. Your attributing
> > our
> > "frustration" to some recent happening is
> > laughable.
> >
> > Most of us are simply fed up of seeing the same mails, the
> > same
> > arguments day in and day out. By banging your head again
> > and again on
> > the computer you are hurting yourself and us. This is not
> > going to
> > bring any solution. Please read my last 2 mails carefully.
> > I have
> > mentioned that if there is anything we can do to reduce
> > your problems,
> > let us discuss it. I sympathize with your issues. Its just
> > that we
> > have been receiving too many of Adityaraj Kaul's
> > emails. And I said
> > that all these mails are not making any headway since we
> > are
> > completely closed down for each other. So, then why are
> > wasting each
> > other's time and effort.
> >
> > I also said that if there is anything we can do to solve
> > your
> > problems, we are ready for it. Why don't you specify
> > what we should
> > do.
> >
> > Kirdar
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Lalit Ambardar
> > <lalitambardar at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > > The hate /misinformation drive launched against the
> > Kashmiri Hindu Pandits on this forum is almost akin to anti
> > Semitism campaign that preceded holocaust.
> > >
> > > It is not difficult to understand the aversion, as the
> > campaigners are the known sympathisers/supporters of the
> > Kashmiri pan Islamists responsible for the ethnic cleansing
> > of the minuscule minority of Hindu Pandits in the valley,
> > but the sudden outburst is a bit inexplicable.
> > >
> > > Visible frustration could only be attributed to
> > Pakistan's recent u-turn, what with the President
> > Zardari
> > > (who would know the protégé better than the mentor /
> > President himself…..) having publicly disowned the self
> > declared Kashmiri freedom fighters describing them as mere
> > 'terrorists'. And this is what the exiled Hindu
> > Pandits have been saying for the past two decades now.
> > >
> > > As for their political affiliations,Hindu Pandits are
> > like any other social group with diverse ideologies- left,
> > right & centrist .But there is no ambiguity over the
> > fact that the community was targeted by the Islamists
> > because they were Hindus & they symbolised Indian
> > presence in the valley. There are communists who following
> > threats had to flee in the middle of the night with Lenin
> > statuettes clinched in their fists.
> > >
> > > Regards all
> > >
> >
>
LA-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > > Movies, sports & news! Get your daily
> > entertainment fix, only on live.com
> > > http://www.live.com/?scope=video&form=MICOAL
> > > _________________________________________
> > > reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the
> > city.
> > > Critiques & Collaborations
> > > To subscribe: send an email to
> > reader-list-request at sarai.net with subscribe in the subject
> > header.
> > > To unsubscribe:
> > https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/reader-list
> > > List archive:
> > <https://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/>
> > _________________________________________
> > reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city.
> > Critiques & Collaborations
> > To subscribe: send an email to
> > reader-list-request at sarai.net with subscribe in the subject
> > header.
> > To unsubscribe:
> > https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/reader-list
> > List archive:
> > <https://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________
> reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city.
> Critiques & Collaborations
> To subscribe: send an email to reader-list-request at sarai.net with
> subscribe in the subject header.
> To unsubscribe: https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/reader-list
> List archive: <https://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/>

-- 
Aditya Raj Kaul

Freelance Correspondent, The Times of India
Cell - +91-9873297834

Campaign Blog: http://kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com/
Personal Blog: http://activistsdiary.blogspot.com/
_________________________________________
reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city.
Critiques & Collaborations
To subscribe: send an email to reader-list-request at sarai.net with subscribe in
the subject header.
To unsubscribe: https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/reader-list 
List archive: &lt;https://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/>