[Reader-list] Noorani Reads the Fine Print of the Amarnath Accord (Nobody)

Baruk S. Jacob b_a_r_u_k at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 7 13:39:34 IST 2008 

pawan,

there are a lot of us on this list who are "nobody" in the kashmir issue. if your discussion is confined to who you define as "somebody", maybe you could send THEM your mails. leave us nobodies out!

~baruk 

http://bottlebroke.blogspot.com


--- On Sun, 9/7/08, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Noorani Reads the Fine Print of the Amarnath Accord
> To: "Aarti Sethi" <aarti.sethi at gmail.com>
> Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
> Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 12:59 AM
> Aarti,
> Since you r NOBODY in Kashmir issue, you re irrelevant when
> it comes to
> discussing the issues and the personalities involved.
> 
> And I wonder why Inder Ji does not respect himself by
> suffixing Balasaheb or
> Advani Ji with Sahib.
> 
> I know Murtaza and Yasin Malik better than they know
> themselves and to know
> why I know so much about these liars  ...you better know
> me.
> 
> Pawan
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Aarti Sethi
> <aarti.sethi at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Pawan,
> >
> > How is working with a brussel's based organisation
> a statement about
> > someone's credibility? Is a job being a "paid
> agent'? Then we are all "paid
> > agents" of someone or the other. The kashmir
> affairs website says quite
> > clearly that it is a non-funded organisation. If you
> know something the rest
> > of us don't, then maybe you should share it with
> the list. Otherwise your
> > attack on Murtaza makes no sense whatsoever.
> >
> >
> > Aarti
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 9:18 PM, inder salim
> <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear Rashneek
> >> >
> >> > some times back Mr. Kshmendra said something
> similar to me,
> >> >
> >> > " you deserve to be ignored "
> >> >
> >> >  and now it is you who said it to Shuddha.
> >> >
> >> > I beleive, anybody who had developed a
> dislike for a particular person
> >> > may simply prese the botton ' delete'
> >> >
> >> > it is too easy.
> >> >  because to express the anger on the list is
> worst than even 2+2=5.
> >> >
> >> > now, coming back to the basic question of
> 'Land and Freedom in
> >> > Kashmir' as seen in the present and
> beyond:
> >> >
> >> > We all know what is the the stand of an
> Nationlaist Indian. There is
> >> > nothing new, What you are saying is no
> differnt from Man Mohan Singh
> >> > ji, our PM.
> >> >
> >> > But if the religion of  all Kashmiris is
> ' AZADI  then how to convert
> >> > them all into other religion which is Indian
> Nationalism in this case.
> >> >
> >> > I think it is very simple. Army and police
> and other  reasoning has
> >> > not helped us.
> >> >  I too would like to see a change of heart in
> kashmir. but, after 1990
> >> > that possiblity looks now remote. Whatever
> the reasons...
> >> >
> >> > Yes,  Kashmiri pandits have a legal claim in
> the valley, but that can
> >> > be the part of a real discussion, as and when
> it happens between the
> >> > representatives of all the inhabitants of the
> disputed territory.
> >> >
> >> > Now disturbes my personally, is that the fact
> that the Hindu Right
> >> > wing has politically appropriated the whole
> intellectual worth of
> >> > Kashmiri pandits. which is not different from
> Jamat-i-Islami's effort
> >> > to represent the whole of AZADI in kashmir.
> Kashmiri pandits need to
> >> > write about it boldly. And if there is none,
> they one Advani-cum-Modi
> >> > is enough to represent them. That will be
> unfortunate.
> >> >
> >> > We all know how people in kahsmir are
> handling this issue. Everything
> >> > is hazy, but  we have recently witnessed how
> Geelani sahib had to
> >> > retract from his claim of total
> representation. So similarly you too
> >> > need to think that every kashmniri pandit is
> not necessarly a
> >> > VHP/BJP/BajrangDal/ShivSanik lover. Let us
> respect the possiblity.
> >> >
> >> > then that  will amount to 2+2=4
> >> >
> >> > with love
> >> > is
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Just press the delete button, anything that
> you consider
> >> > On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Aditya Raj
> Kaul <
> >> kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Dear Aarti,
> >> > >
> >> > > You are so right. We just can't
> ignore Shuddha's posts on this forum.
> >> He
> >> > > needs to be corrected from time to time,
> hence, we just can't remain
> >> > silent.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Be careful Aarti.Disinformation spread
> can be dangerous.
> >> > >
> >> > > Warm Regards,
> >> > > Aditya Raj Kaul
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Aarti
> Sethi <aarti.sethi at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Really? Is that so? In which case
> every post shuddha writes, rife
> >> with
> >> > >> inaccuracies and and ignorance,
> should immediately get a response
> >> from
> >> > you
> >> > >> setting the record straight.
> Instead, what we witness is a deafening
> >> > >> silence. Be careful and intelligent
> about whom you choose as your
> >> > >> adversaries Rashneek. And I think
> you are well aware of whose posts
> >> are
> >> > >> generally ignored on this list and
> it certainly isn't Shuddha.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> regards
> >> > >> Aarti
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 11:19 AM,
> rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> All that notwithstanding,
> Shuddha's knowledge and understanding of
> >> > either
> >> > >>> history or politics is of
> Kashmir is so poor or so full of
> >> inaccuries
> >> > >>> (intentional as well ignorant)
> that it is time we start ignoring his
> >> > posts
> >> > >>> on Kashmir.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Regards
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Rashneek
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM,
> Aditya Raj Kaul <
> >> > kauladityaraj at gmail.com
> >> > >>> >wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> > And, In a recent lecture in
> Jamia University, he was no different.
> >> > >>> > Advocating pan-Islamist
> movement in Kashmir.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > On 9/3/08, Lalit Ambardar
> <lalitambardar at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > It is not
> surprising.AG Noorani is a known sympathiser of the
> >> > Kashmiri
> >> > >>> > pan
> >> > >>> > > Islamists & their
> cause.  He ran a campaign series in support of
> >> > the
> >> > >>> > > separatists in HT for
> years .The very fact that Noorani has
> >> chosen
> >> > to
> >> > >>> > call
> >> > >>> > > Jammuites as
> 'communal forces' & 'parivar' & the
> accord itself
> >> as
> >> > >>> > > 'gunah-e-bey
> lazzat' & describe those who attempt to seek
> "azadi
> >> > -bara
> >> > >>> -e
> >> > >>> > > -Islam" as
> 'victims' says it all.
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > Noorani once went
> overboard in " don't be fence-sitters " (HT
> >> New
> >> > >>> > Delhi/May
> >> > >>> > > 8, 2007)  in  his
> appreciation of Sayad Sallahudin of HM & the
> >> > >>> al-Qeada
> >> > >>> > > affiliate LeT. In a 
> bizarre coincidence , the day LeT chief
> >> > allegedly
> >> > >>> > > assured some Gen.
> Patankar of his willingness to come to India
> >> for
> >> > >>> talks
> >> > >>> > > (...????....) as
> claimed by Noorani in the article , that very
> >> day
> >> > >>> Hafeez
> >> > >>> > > Sayad confessed to the
> reporters in Islamabad about the
> >> existence
> >> > of
> >> > >>> > > terrorist
> infrastructure in Pakistan & declared his resolve to
> >> > carry
> >> > >>> on
> >> > >>> > the
> >> > >>> > > 'jihad' to its
> logical conclusion (Ref. TNN/ Times of India,
> >> > DEL/May8'
> >> > >>> > 07/
> >> > >>> > > page no.13).
> >> > >>> > > LA
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > > Date: Wed, 3 Sep
> 2008 03:55:11 -0700> From:
> >> > kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > To:
> >> > >>> > > shuddha at sarai.net>
> CC: reader-list at sarai.net> Subject: Re:
> >> > >>> [Reader-list]
> >> > >>> > > Noorani Reads the Fine
> Print of the Amarnath Accord> >  >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.greaterkashmir.com/full_story.asp?Date=3_9_2008&ItemID=26&cat=1
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >  >  >
> >> > >>> > > > > --- On Wed,
> 9/3/08, Shuddhabrata Sengupta <
> >> shuddha at sarai.net>
> >> > >>> > wrote:>
> >> > >>> > > > From:
> Shuddhabrata Sengupta <shuddha at sarai.net>> Subject:
> Re:
> >> > >>> > > [Reader-list] Noorani
> Reads the Fine Print of the Amarnath
> >> Accord>
> >> > To:
> >> > >>> > > "Shuddhabrata
> Sengupta" <shuddha at sarai.net>> Cc: "Sarai
> list" <
> >> > >>> > >
> reader-list at sarai.net>> Date: Wednesday, September 3,
> 2008,
> >> 4:07
> >> > PM>
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > > Dear all,> > The
> link to the Noorani article in the Greater
> >> Kashmir
> >> > >>> > > Newspaper in > my
> earlier post got inadvertently truncated. Here
> >> is
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>> > > correct link.> >
> http://www.greaterkashmir.com/full_story.asp?
> >> >
> >> > >>> > >
> Date=3_9_2008&ItemID=26&cat=1> > Thanks, Tilak
> Upadhyay for
> >> > pointing
> >> > >>> this
> >> > >>> > > out.> >
> best,> > Shuddha> > On 03-Sep-08, at 3:16 PM,
> >> Shuddhabrata
> >> > >>> > Sengupta
> >> > >>> > > wrote: Dear all>
> > > Dear All,> >> > An unusual intensity
> of
> >> hunger
> >> > >>> for
> >> > >>> > land
> >> > >>> > > unites corporations,
> state> > agencies and shrine boards in
> >> India.
> >> > >>> > Captains
> >> > >>> > > of Industry,> >
> politicians and land hungry divines seem to be
> >> more
> >> > >>> > > interested in> >
> acrage than in anything else. The Mahabharata
> >> > >>> mentions
> >> > >>> > the
> >> > >>> > > burning of> >
> the Khandava forest to appease a hungry god,
> >> > >>> inaugurating a
> >> > >>> > > long> > history
> of burnt and erased forests and commons. It
> >> appears
> >> > as
> >> > >>> it
> >> > >>> > > we> > are
> surrounded now by 'hungry gods'. The Khandava-daha
> >> > >>> continues.>
> >> > >>> > >>
> >> > >>> > > > Be it Chengara
> (thanks, Anivar Aravind for keeping us updated
> >> > about>
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > the
> >> > >>> > > land struggle in
> Kerala, where the ruling CPI(M) led Left Front>
> >> >
> >> > is
> >> > >>> > intent
> >> > >>> > > on displacing
> indigenous communities from their land), or> >
> >> Singur
> >> > >>> > (where
> >> > >>> > > again, the ruling
> CPI(M) wants to gift land 'free'> to a> >
> >> > gigantic
> >> > >>> > > corporation or
> Amarnath, - the issues - remain the same -> > to
> >> do
> >> > >>> with
> >> > >>> > > state mediated
> acquisition of land, and the sequestering> > of
> >> > either
> >> > >>> > > cultivator's land,
> or a natural commons into some form of> >
> >> > 'gated'
> >> > >>> and
> >> > >>> > > 'fenced'
> land.> >> > There has been some premature media
> spin
> >> > around
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>> > > 'accord'
> that> has> > been reached with the Shree Amarnath
> Yatra
> >> > >>> > Sangharsh
> >> > >>> > > Samiti based in>
> > Jammu. On the face of it, the accord appears
> >> to
> >> > >>> grant
> >> > >>> > a
> >> > >>> > > limited usage> >
> right to the Shree Amarnath Shrine Board. On
> >> > closer
> >> > >>> > reading
> >> > >>> > > of the> > text
> however, it becomes evident that the terms of
> >> this
> >> > >>> > 'accord'>
> >> > >>> > > are> > actually
> even more invasive than was the case with the
> >> > >>> substance
> >> > >>> > of>
> >> > >>> > > > the original
> gubernatorial 'land transfer' order in May.>
> >> >
> >> I
> >> > am
> >> > >>> > > enclosing below - an
> article by A. G. Noorani, a well known> >
> >> > legal
> >> > >>> > > historian and
> practitioner of constitutional law, titled> > 'An
> >> > >>> Immoral
> >> > >>> > and
> >> > >>> > > Illegal Accord'
> which was published in the Greater> > Kashmir
> >> > >>> newspaper
> >> > >>> > > today. It is available
> on line at -> >
> >> > >>> > >
> http://www.greaterkashmir.com/full_story.asp?> >
> >> > >>> > >
> Date=3_9_2008&ItemID=26&cat=1> >> >
> Noorani carefully reads the
> >> > terms
> >> > >>> of
> >> > >>> > the
> >> > >>> > > Amarnath Accord in
> this> > article. As I had pointed out before
> >> on
> >> > >>> this
> >> > >>> > list
> >> > >>> > > (in my second post>
> > (dated 15th August, 2008) in the thread -
> >> > 'Gun
> >> > >>> > Salutes
> >> > >>> > > for August> >
> 15' in response to Sonia Jabbar and Aditya Raj
> >> Kaul -
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>> > > anger in> >
> Kashmir has a lot to do with the arbitrary
> >> acquisition
> >> > of
> >> > >>> > land -
> >> > >>> > > I> > had shown,
> using state government figures, how the
> >> equivalent
> >> > of
> >> > >>> > one> >
> >> > >>> > > in ten fruit orchards
> can be said to be under the occupation of
> >> > the> >
> >> > >>> > Armed
> >> > >>> > > Forces. The
> 'Amarnath Land Transfer' issue needs to be seen>
> in>
> >> >
> >> > >>> this
> >> > >>> > > context.> >>
> > As long as that anger (regarding the alienation
> >> of
> >> > >>> land)
> >> > >>> > is
> >> > >>> > > not> >
> addressed, the people of Kashmir will have no reason, in
> >> my>
> >> > >
> >> > >>> > > estimation, to think
> of themselves as anything but under a
> >> brutal
> >> > and>
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > > unrelenting
> occupation. The current 'Amarnath Accord' in my
> >> view,>
> >> > >
> >> > >>> > worsens
> >> > >>> > > the situation, and can
> alienate the people of Kashmir (for> >
> >> the
> >> > >>> reasons
> >> > >>> > > that Noorani
> underlines below) even more. As such, it can> >
> >> only
> >> > be
> >> > >>> > viewed
> >> > >>> > > as yet another
> provocation, yet another disaster, in> > the long
> >> > and
> >> > >>> > > undistinguished record
> of the Government of India's> > tragic
> >> > >>> blundering
> >> > >>> > on
> >> > >>> > > Kashmir. It cannot but
> prove to be divisive in a> > situation
> >> that
> >> > >>> > urgently
> >> > >>> > > requires the
> opposite.> >> > regards> >> >
> Shuddha> >> >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> >
> ======================================================================
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > ==> >
> =======================> >> > An Immoral and
> Illegal
> >> Accord>
> >> > >
> >> > >>> > Greater
> >> > >>> > > Kashmir, September 03,
> 2008> > A G NOORANI> >> > Srinagar, Sep
> >> 2:
> >> > The
> >> > >>> > accord
> >> > >>> > > between the Jammu and
> Kashmir government> > and the Shri
> >> Amarnath
> >> > >>> Yatra
> >> > >>> > > Sangharsh Samiti on 31
> August is far> > worse than the
> >> government's
> >> > >>> order
> >> > >>> > > only three months
> earlier on 26> > May. It grants the SAYSS
> >> > >>> concessions
> >> > >>> > >beyond what the May
> order did.> > It is one-sided and marks an
> >> > abject
> >> > >>> > > surrender to violence,
> blockade> > and to communal forces. The
> >> > >>> > differences
> >> > >>> > > between the order and
> accord> > are glaring. Here is a list:> >>
> >> >
> >> > 1.
> >> > >>> The
> >> > >>> > > order was made
> pursuant to a decision on 20 May by the cabinet>
> >> >
> >> > in
> >> > >>> > which
> >> > >>> > > both Jammu and Kashmir
> were represented. The accord> >
> >> completely
> >> > >>> ignores
> >> > >>> > > Kashmir where the land
> is to be given. Jammu alone> > was
> >> > represented.
> >> > >>> A
> >> > >>> > > week earlier, there
> was a clampdown in the Valley> > and top
> >> > leaders
> >> > >>> were
> >> > >>> > > arrested.> >>
> > 2. Even the controversial order nowhere used the
> >> > word
> >> > >>> > >
> "exclusive".> > The SAYSS felt so emboldened
> as to demand it and
> >> > >>> threaten
> >> > >>> > to
> >> > >>> > > wreck> > the
> deal if it was not conceded. The government yielded
> >> in
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>> > > early> > hours
> of 31 August. Para 6A says that the Government
> >> > "shall
> >> > >>> set
> >> > >>> > > aside> > for use
> by Shri Amarnathji Shrine Board exclusively the
> >> > land
> >> > >>> in>
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > Baltal and
> Domail". This order unknown anywhere in the world
> is>
> >> >
> >> > >>> > cloaked
> >> > >>> > > under a lie by calling
> it "traditionally under use for the> >
> >> > annual
> >> > >>> > yatra
> >> > >>> > > purpose". The
> traditional route for over a century is> > the
> >> > Pahalgam
> >> > >>> > route.
> >> > >>> > > The Baltal route is a
> recent demand. It was> > regarded by the
> >> Army
> >> > >>> and
> >> > >>> > > Nitish Sengupta Report
> as dangerous. It is> > also unnecessary
> >> if
> >> > the
> >> > >>> > limit
> >> > >>> > > of yatris set by the
> Report (1 lakh) is> > observed.> >> > 3.
> >> This
> >> > >>> > violates
> >> > >>> > > the citizen's
> fundamental right under Art. 19 (1) D> > to move
> >> > freely
> >> > >>> > > throughout India. The
> demand of exclusivity was not> > made even
> >> in
> >> > >>> May
> >> > >>> > 2008
> >> > >>> > > or in decades earlier.
> It is pure communal> > aggression using
> >> the
> >> > >>> yatra
> >> > >>> > for
> >> > >>> > > political
> demonstration not religious> > piety.> >>
> > 4. The
> >> > duration
> >> > >>> of
> >> > >>> > use
> >> > >>> > > is widened to cover
> pre and post yatra period.> > Para 6 C first
> >> > says
> >> > >>> > that
> >> > >>> > > the land will be used
> "for the duration of> > the yatra"
> >> including
> >> > the
> >> > >>> > > period of preparations
> and winding up. But> > the very next para
> >> > has
> >> > >>> > these
> >> > >>> > > sinister words:
> "The aforesaid land> > shall be used according
> >> to
> >> > the
> >> > >>> > > Board's
> requirements from time to> > time, including for the
> >> > >>> following".
> >> > >>> > > There follow 9
> measures including> > construction, setting up of
> >> > the
> >> > >>> > sheds
> >> > >>> > > and shops etc. These
> can be> > done even beyond the yatra period
> >> > "from
> >> > >>> > time
> >> > >>> > > to time" and
> "according> > to the Board's
> requirements"; may be
> >> all
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>> > year
> >> > >>> > > around.> >>
> > 5. Para 8 of the order insisted that the land
> >> "shall
> >> > >>> > return"
> >> > >>> > > to the> > State.
> This is dropped in the accord. This
> >> accomplishes
> >> > S.K.
> >> > >>> > > Sinha's> >
> objective— permanent use the year round.> >> >
> 6.
> >> Also
> >> > >>> dropped
> >> > >>> > > totally is Para 4 on
> payment for user.> >> > 7. Dropped too is
> >> Para
> >> > 6.
> >> > >>> An
> >> > >>> > > undertaking of
> "foolproof measures> > against water pollution
> >> and
> >> > Para
> >> > >>> 7
> >> > >>> > on
> >> > >>> > > payment of fine for
> damage to> > the forest. There is a pious
> >> > >>> provision
> >> > >>> > in
> >> > >>> > > accord Para 6 C (ix)
> among> > the objectives of land user;
> >> namely
> >> > >>> > > "undertaking
> measures relating to> > … preservation of
> ecology"
> >> > etc.
> >> > >>> > Breach
> >> > >>> > > entails no fine.>
> >> > 8. The order of 26 May was rescinded on 1
> >> > July.
> >> > >>> > The
> >> > >>> > > accord will> >
> require a fresh order to implement it. By itself
> >> the
> >> > >>> > accord
> >> > >>> > > has no> > legal
> force. Section 2(a) of the J&K Forest
> >> > (Conservation)
> >> > >>> Act
> >> > >>> > > 1997> > says
> "the Government shall not, except on a resolution
> >> of
> >> > the
> >> > >>> > > Council> > of
> Ministers based on the advice of the Advisory
> >> > >>> Committee"> >
> >> > >>> > > constituted under the
> Act "make any order directing that any
> >> > forest> >
> >> > >>> > land
> >> > >>> > > or any portion thereof
> may be used for any non-forest purpose".>
> >> >
> >> > The
> >> > >>> > > earlier phrase
> "Council of ministers" merely was revised by
> an>
> >> >
> >> > >>> > amendment
> >> > >>> > > in 2001 and the Forest
> Advisory Committee's advice was> > added
> >> and
> >> > >>> made
> >> > >>> > > mandatory.
> "Council of Ministers" is specific. It is> >
> >> different
> >> > from
> >> > >>> > "J&K
> >> > >>> > > Government" whose
> powers vest now in the> governor> > alone. The
> >> > law
> >> > >>> > > intentionally provides
> the resolution as a safeguard.> > This
> >> > Council
> >> > >>> can
> >> > >>> > > come into existence
> only after the next elections.> > In any
> >> case
> >> > the
> >> > >>> > Forest
> >> > >>> > > Advisory Committees
> advice on 12 July 2007> > cannot apply to
> >> this
> >> > new
> >> > >>> > > accord which must be
> vetted afresh by that> > Committee. It was
> >> > given
> >> > >>> > before
> >> > >>> > > the Supreme
> Court's final judgment in> > the T M Godavarman
> case
> >> on
> >> > 23
> >> > >>> > > November 2007 which
> lays down the law> > and makes important
> >> > >>> observations
> >> > >>> > on
> >> > >>> > > balancing development
> with> > protection of environment. Failure
> >> to
> >> > >>> > consider
> >> > >>> > > it vitiates the>
> > decision. Precisely based on
> >> misrepresentation
> >> > of
> >> > >>> > opinion
> >> > >>> > > of the> > deputy
> CM Muzaffar Hussain Beg and advocate general
> >> Altaf
> >> > >>> Naik
> >> > >>> > > both> > of which
> were given in entirely difference cases.> >> >
> >> The
> >> > >>> > accord
> >> > >>> > > lacks legal efficacy
> as well as moral and political> >
> >> legitimacy.
> >> > Any
> >> > >>> > order
> >> > >>> > > in its implementation
> will be void in law. It> > is a pity that
> >> the
> >> > >>> state
> >> > >>> > > should bend all rules
> to buy peace with> > communal forces
> >> > including
> >> > >>> > promise
> >> > >>> > > to consider
> compensation for law-> > breakers. What of
> >> compensation
> >> > to
> >> > >>> > the
> >> > >>> > > Valley for the
> blockade? The> > parivar in Jammu has already
> >> begun
> >> > >>> asking
> >> > >>> > > for more. The
> Government> > has not bought peace but trouble. It
> >> is
> >> > >>> > > gunah-e-bey lazzat
> (sin> > without any taste.)> >> > If the
> >> state
> >> > can
> >> > >>> > thus
> >> > >>> > > bend its knees before
> the Sangh parivar on an> > issue like
> >> this,
> >> > what
> >> > >>> > hopes
> >> > >>> > > of justice can
> Kashmiris entertain when> > it comes to restoring
> >> > the
> >> > >>> > raped
> >> > >>> > > Article 370 to a
> status of worth and> > respect?> >> >
> END> >> >
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