[Reader-list] Delhi University gets ABVP president after 8 years/ reader-list Digest, Vol 62, Issue 35.

Aarti Sethi aarti.sethi at gmail.com
Thu Sep 11 15:29:01 IST 2008


Dear Aditya,

Clearly the law of this land and the Supreme Court do not agree with your
idiotic definition of "caste-based" reservations for which we can only be
grateful. Nor did the political process pay any heed eventually to the
"movement" launched by privileged doctors to protect upper-caste privilege.
Your "movement" having reached every corner of this country is complete
nonsense. Exactly what proportion of this country actually counts for
anything in your scheme of things is utterly obvious from the position you
take on caste. If you want to begin a debate here on the debacle that was
your "movement" everyone is more than willing. Especially how your line kept
changing as you realised that the elite with whom you threw in your lot
were,wonders of wonders, out of their depth. And so finally, after the court
spoke in favour of reservations, from "no reservations" you finally went to
"not more than 50% reservations" and now youre barking on about "we were
strongly in favour of affirmative action". Many of those conservations are
archived on this list in fact aditya, so again, be careful before you try
and squirm your way out of your own dissimulations...

What lessons should you draw from this? That, finally, people such are
yourself are utterly irrelevant to larger politics. A sobering thought is it
not?

best
Aarti

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>wrote:

> Pawan,
>
> Everybody knows that United Students contested the elections in 2006 and
> came out third with 4,300 votes after NSUI and ABVP. This surely does not
> make our communist brothers of SFI/AISA etc. happy. I don't understand why
> at all they fight elections as they hardly have any support in the campus.
> Anyways, I respect democracy.
>
> Prakash bhai, I don't understand why a news item made you scream at the top
> of your voice. Is something behind this ? Anyways, Yes United Students was
> formed in 2006 but only after we successfully campaigned for Jessica Lall
> and Priyadarshini Mattoo to get Justice. In April 2006, we were the first
> in
> India to speak out against Case Based Politics and caste based
> reservations.
> Now, if you support this; it goes on to show who actually is castiest Mr.
> Ray. We were strongly in favour of Affirmative Action. Our agitation
> reached
> every nook and corner of the country and soon the Doctors friends took over
> and formed Youth For Equality. This surely should pain only those, who are
> against, progress, against equality, fair justice and education for all.
>
> Mr. Ray, Your comments are unfortunate. For your kinf information, United
> Students still exists and it contested the elections in 2007 and as well
> this year. Tania Jain from SRCC Economics Hons. was our candidate who did
> fairly well even though she had no support from Congress, BJP or your CPI
> (M).
>
> Now, coming to your blind allegations. Nupur Sharma who is now the DUSU
> President is a good friend and an able leader. So, I thought of supporting
> her. I don't get why it pains you.
>
> United Students has been very active in Delhi University for past one year.
> We have been campaigning against sexual harassment. Its only because of the
> efforts of our activists that you see strong presence of Police on
> strategic
> locations across the University. We also campaigned for relaxation of rates
> for students who travel from the METRO. This demand is under consideration,
> but will take time for implementation because of the huge loan India has
> taken from Japan.
>
> I do understand why you are not aware of these silent developments in the
> university. You are busy instigationg people against few students groups on
> communal lines and spreading lies. Do you remember Nandigram ? Its very
> unfortunate.
>
> Don't loosen you frustration here this way. It won't result in anything
> positive.
>
>
> Love
>
> Aditya Raj Kaul
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Wouldnt have expetcted anything better from where your address is
> > !..........you know what I mean.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:11 AM, prakash ray <pkray11 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Shri Durani,
> > >
> > > Please ask about what is a castiest to Mr Aditya Raj Kaul. I am sure
> that
> > > he
> > > will speak (also open and show) his mind to you despite the dangers of
> > > taking the brain out in open without medical/surgical support and
> > > supervision. As far as my definition is concerned, I am not bothering
> you
> > > by
> > > telling it to you. If I tell you this, you will waste your time in
> > replying
> > > to it. If needed, I will bother you on another issue on another time.
> > >
> > > Prakash
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > And Ray Sahib,
> > > > What is your definition about Casteist ? And as far as Mr Adityaraj
> > Kauls
> > > > stand on communalism is concerned ,.I am happy that someone from
> youth
> > > > section speaks his mind out at dangers which can engulf the whole
> > country
> > > in
> > > > times to come.
> > > >
> > > > Pawan Durani
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 2:41 AM, prakash ray <pkray11 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Dear Mr Aditya Raj Kaul,
> > > >>
> > > >> I am not at all surprised at your happiness on the victory of ABVP's
> > > >> presidential candidate in DUSU elections 2008. An activist like you
> of
> > a
> > > >> casteist organization like United Students, a clone of Youth for
> > > Equality,
> > > >> will be only happy if a communal organization wins an election. And
> > your
> > > >> position on communalism is known to the readers of the list. Those
> who
> > > >> have
> > > >> not heard about the outfit called United Students, I want to tell
> them
> > > >> that
> > > >> this anti-reservation entity was formed in 2006 alongwith notorious
> > > Youth
> > > >> for Equality to oppose reservation in the educational institution.
> > > United
> > > >> Students contested DUSU elections in 2006 and 2007 and for better,
> it
> > > does
> > > >> not exist anymore. Mr Aditya Raj Kaul led a delegation of United
> > > Students
> > > >> to
> > > >> the President of India on May 4, 2006 to oppose the reservations.
> > > >> Interestingly, he is elated at the ABVP's victory after contesting
> > > against
> > > >> it for two years. I am sure that he and his fellow
> > anti-reservationists
> > > >> worked for ABVP this time which 'supported' reservations. Will Mr
> Kaul
> > > >> explain the deal between these two outfits? As far as the DUSU
> results
> > > are
> > > >> concerned, it is another issue to be talked seperately.
> > > >>
> > > >> Prakash
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