[Reader-list] The Azadi We Need
Kshmendra Kaul
kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 14 20:46:40 IST 2008
I look forward to reflections that will be posted about “The Azadi We Need” by Umair Ahmed Muhajir (UAM). Thank you Jeebesh for posting the article.
On this List there are many people in whom one can see a confluence of what are two basically contradictory positions. They are dismissive of the “Nation State” and “Nationalism” and at the same time are supportive of the Kashmir “Azadi”. There is an inherent hypocrisy in this because all that they are doing is seeking to reject Indian Nationalism and favouring Kashmir Nationalism even as they elsewhere constantly proclaim that they are ‘against’ Nationalism and ‘against’ the concept of Nation States.
In his very competently written piece, UAM dismisses the “Azadi” call in Kashmir since he sees it as an attempt to carve out another “Nation State” out of the existing Indian “Nation State”.
UAM’s repugnance is for a Nation State of any hue. His dismissal of Kashmir “Azadi” (and of Arundhati Roy’s “rallying cry” in its support) is based on questioning what, in the the name of “Azadi,” is being sought to be “let loose on the world” and questioning “the logic that they and would-be nationalists of all stripes have attempted to replicate for decades”.
In UAM’s view, all of this Kashmir “Azadi” movement(s), if successful, would only lead to yet another “Nation State” and so he finds no merit in it. The “Azadi” that UAM is looking for is described by him as “the freedom we need is azadi from the mindset that thinks of peoples and communities only in terms of nation-states”.
On a personal note - in UAM’s favoured recognition of “Azadi” I too subscribe to the expansiveness of attitude that one should not think of “peoples and communities” ONLY in terms of Nation States. I say that to and for myself, as one who subscribes to and fervently argues in support of Nation States since I see them as (currently at least) the only credible practically functional system for organized societies. Without any qualification, I completely share UAM’s desire for “an azadi that demands that the Indian state honour its promise, to itself and to us.”
UAM does not contest Arundhati Roy’s “critique -- of the Indian state's indifference, its callousness, its inhumanity, its cruelty” since UAM recognizes that India as a Nation State “does what nation-states do: in the final analysis, sacrifice humanity in the service of a larger political project.”
At the same time UAM says with confidence that “nothing in the Kashmiri independence movement suggests that it will throw up anything different; indeed given that the movement aims at a traditional nation-state just like all the others, I submit that it cannot yield a different result.”
Giving examples of “Minority rights? Justice for different communities, and between genders?” UAM does not see any difference in the aims of the (Azadi) ‘movement’ and those of the “existing Indian state”.
UAM rather sarcastically tells Arundhati Roy that she did “well not to linger” over her “thought experiment” where she wondered “what the independence demanded by the state's Muslim majority might mean for the state's religious or other minorities”. UAM suggests that “”””identities of those disadvantaged will shift, as new disfavoured minorities, new "outsiders", new "insiders", and new identity policemen””””””
UAM finds disingenuous any sidelining of such concerns with any excuse that it was “merely a question of the Kashmiri separatists not having spelled out their agenda in greater detail as yet”. UAM asks “Why would one ever hope for anything different from a nation-state for Kashmiris, as far as those who don't fit the bill are concerned?”
Even as UAM sees little hope for Kashmir “Azadi” not resulting in “refugees” and “victims”, he argues against the Kashmir “Azadi” by saying “people -- should have learned long ago that partitions are not the solution to people's inability to live together; rather, the mindset that vests its faith in drawing easily-policed borders is a mindset that demands enemies. ……..A nation-state for Muslims thus becomes a state virtually free of non-Muslims; a sub-national state where Hindu pride is honoured above all else becomes a state where non-Hindus must know their place.”
UAM does not place any trust in the “outcomes” from the Kashmir “Azadi” being any better than the situations in the “existing Indian state” just on the the basis of “being told by the movement” that the “movement will simply do a better job.” Sounding skeptical about the “secular” drumbeats of the “likes of Yasin Malik” he sees them, even if accepted, as being no different from the “Nehruvian show on a smaller stage” and sees no reason for believing that they would “yield a better result”
UAM reckons that a "Kashmir for Kashmiris" is in fact further away from Nehru’s India and more like the idea of Pakistan and Bangladesh. He fears that “The promise of the Kashmiri movement combines both of these nightmares.” (The killings, displacements and creation of disadvantaged groups).
I just could not put my finger on it. UAM makes an intriguing statement that both the Kashmir and Pakistan movements are “explicitly predicated on a favoured community that is less than everyone who lives within the state's borders.” This has many possible interpretations but UAM makes it clear that “Muslim majority” is not what he is talking about.
UAM sees “second class citizenship” implicit in the Kashmir “Azadi” and sees that as hypocritical when compared to (taken from his Blog and is not included in the Outlook article) “nation-states where “second-class” citizenship is explicit, where it is part of the very logic of the state.”
UAM brings about a fascinating distinction between Nation States where some are better than the others although he considers them all accountable in the “moral responsibility for the horrors it perpetrates” and “all of them problematic, all of them complicit in cruelty”
UAM finds more complicit and more problematic the group of Nation States like “Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Pakistan, and, based on the logic of the movements, the would-be nation-states of Kashmir or Khalistan” since they are “premised on explicit notions of religion, language, ethnicity”
Against them he finds better the group of Nation States like “the contemporary United States, Brazil, South Africa, and, yes, India”. As UAM puts it “Theoretically, one does not need to be other than "wholly Bengali", "wholly Tamil", or "wholly Muslim" in order to be utterly Indian; one cannot say the same of Pakistan and its Hindus citizens, and the religious colour of the Kashmiri movement means it is almost inconceivable that this won't be true of an independent Kashmir as well (even leaving aside the obvious ethnic dimension).”
I have reproduced much of what was written by UAM. My purpose was to lay down a structure (hopefully without misrepresenting what UAM said/meant) that would lead to the asking of some questions which I think are important in connection with the “Kashmir Azadi” and for which I invite serious and sober comments/answers:
1. When “Azadi” is spoken about in connection with Kashmir, what is the geography of that “Kashmir”?
2. The ‘contours of the movement’ and ‘elements of Azadi‘ in Indian Controlled Kashmir are fairly well know even if not well understood. If the “geography” of the Kashmir “Azadi” covers the ‘erstwhile Princely State of Jammu and Kashmir as it stood Pre-1947-Partition’ then what are the ‘contours of the movement’ and the ‘elements of Azadi’ in Pakistan Controlled Kashmir? What are the synergies between the two? When and How will the two merge?
3. If the Kashmir “Azadi” does not cover Pakistan Controlled Kashmir, Why not?
4. Will the Kashmir “Azadi” lead to a “New Country”?
5. How will this New Nation State be better than the Indian Nation State as far as Indian Controlled Kashmir is concerned? What will make it better?
6. What will the Constitution (briefly) of this New Country be?
7. On what specific points will the Constitution of this New Country be different from the Constitution of India? In what specific aspects will the Constitution of this New Country be better than the Constitution of India?
Kshmendra Kaul
--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Jeebesh <jeebesh at sarai.net> wrote:
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http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20080904&fname=umair&sid=1
The Azadi We Need
The azadi demanded by the Kashmiri movement, and used by Roy as a
rallying cry, is not the answer. The freedom we need is azadi from the
mindset that thinks of peoples and communities only in terms of nation-
states; and equally, an azadi that demands that the Indian state
honour its promise, to itself and to us.
Umair Ahmed Muhajir
Towards the end of her impassioned piece calling for azadi for
Kashmir, Arundhati Roy pauses to reflect on what might follow azadi in
Kashmir, wondering what an independent Kashmir might mean, including
what the independence demanded by the state's Muslim majority might
mean for the state's religious or other minorities. She does well not
to linger, because the thought experiment illustrates precisely what
is most problematic about "national movements", namely that they are
unable to think the political except through the prism of nation-states.
National movements, that is to say, see themselves as nation-states-in-
waiting, and do not see any political horizon beyond that of the
nation-state. So was it with the Indian national movement, and its
inability to think the difference that might have been capacious
enough to house the country's Muslim-majority regions; so it
definitely was with the Muslim League and its two-nation theory, even
more wedded to the siren song of European-style nationalism
transplanted to a colonial setting; and so it is with the "copycat"
nationalisms that have followed, be it Kashmir, or Punjab, or
Nagaland. The failure to imagine a nation-state different from the
traditional European model, the shoe-horning of Indian communitarian
identities, into models conceived with the likes of Germany and
England in mind, paved the way for the catastrophes of partition. The
"belated" nationalisms of the post-partition sub-continent
demonstrate
the truth of Marx's depressing observation, namely that we learn from
history that we do not learn from history.
The point is worth making given Roy's trenchant critiques of the
Indian state (in the context of Kashmir, but not only of Kashmir; her
essay on the Indian state and dams, The Greater Common Good, is
astonishingly powerful). That is, much of Roy's critique -- of the
Indian state's indifference, its callousness, its inhumanity, its
cruelty -- is (or certainly ought to be) animated not by her target's
Indianness, but by the fact that it is a nation-state, and as such,
does what nation-states do: in the final analysis, sacrifice humanity
in the service of a larger political project. The distinction is an
important one, because nothing in the Kashmiri independence movement
suggests that it will throw up anything different; indeed given that
the movement aims at a traditional nation-state just like all the
others, I submit that it cannot yield a different result. Minority
rights? Justice for different communities, and between genders? The
outcomes will be better than they are now, we are told by the
movement, not because the aims are different from those of the
existing Indian state, but because the movement will simply do a
better job.
I am skeptical, and not because of the identity (religious or
otherwise) of those who comprise the Kashmiri independence movement; I
am skeptical because the aim of that movement is congenitally
incapable of producing a result that is "better" in some cosmic sense
-- at most the identities of those disadvantaged will shift, as new
disfavoured minorities, new "outsiders", new "insiders",
and new
identity policemen are created. Roy is too sophisticated not to see
this, but doesn't bother to delve into it, pretending that this is
merely a question of the Kashmiri separatists not having spelled out
their agenda in greater detail as yet.
It is not: over half a century ago, Hannah Arendt wrote (in The
Origins of Totalitarianism) of the masses of refugees and victims that
seemed to accompany the birth of every new nation-state, and nothing
has changed, not in the age of South Ossetia, Kosovo, Rwanda, ad
nauseum.
Certainly, those of us from the sub-continent should be especially
wary of political projects that promise us clean solutions to
intractable political problems: we live with the legacies of the
bloodbaths of the 1940s, not to mention innumerable later, "lesser"
massacres. By all accounts, the leaders of the new nation-states of
India and Pakistan were caught by surprise by the scale of the
violence in 1947; they had evidently internalized the logic of
colonialism, pursuant to which communitarian difference presents a
political "problem" that may be solved by means of creative
cartography and judicious population transfers. Conceptual neatness is
one of the hallmarks of the colonial mindset (thinking of Cyril
Radcliffe, who could doubt it?).
Unfortunately, reality is anything but, and the sub-continent's
leaders -- and, even more importantly, its people -- should have
learned long ago that partitions are not the solution to people's
inability to live together; rather, the mindset that vests its faith
in drawing easily-policed borders is a mindset that demands enemies.
It is a mindset that, in the final analysis, demands that facts on the
ground correspond to the political project of the nation-state (and
not the other way around). A nation-state for Muslims thus becomes a
state virtually free of non-Muslims; a sub-national state where Hindu
pride is honoured above all else becomes a state where non-Hindus must
know their place.
Why would one ever hope for anything different from a nation-state for
Kashmiris, as far as those who don't fit the bill are concerned?
Certainly the region is not short of candidates for stigmatisation
(some of this is because India is fantastically diverse; some of it is
because nation-states are rather gifted at manufacturing
"problematic"
identities): Buddhists; Shiites; Gujjars; perhaps even Sunni Muslims
who will be deemed insufficiently supportive of the independence
movement (the last is hardly far-fetched, as even a casual glance at
the history of Algeria or the Khalistan movement, or Kashmir itself
during the 1990s, makes clear). Indeed, several hundred thousand
Kashmiri Pandits have already been driven off, and it is hard not to
see in them a harbinger of more to come.
The above might seem like an odd place from which to maintain a
defense of India vis-à-vis Kashmir. It is, on the contrary, a natural
vantage point: the idea of an independent Kashmir for Kashmiris must
be resisted precisely because, as the experience of the once-colonised
has amply illustrated, nation-states are appallingly inhuman. Equally,
however, they are not all inhuman in precisely the same way; nor are
they all equally inhuman, by which I simply mean that they are not all
equally incapable of accommodating human difference, whether
communitarian or otherwise. The Germany of 2008 is manifestly not the
Germany of 1938; but nor does the Germany of 2008 accommodate ethnic
minorities as comfortably as the United States does.
None of this relieves any state of moral responsibility for the
horrors it perpetrates; but in order to agitate against horrors, one
must first understand what they are.
And within the range of nation-states on offer -- all of them
problematic, all of them complicit in cruelty -- it is apparent to me
that those premised on explicit notions of religion, language,
ethnicity, blood in some sense, are more problematic, more complicit,
than those with far more modest litmus tests. The contemporary United
States, Brazil, South Africa, and, yes, India, are among the latter
group of nation-states; Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Pakistan, and,
based on the logic of the movements, the would-be nation-states of
Kashmir or Khalistan, are not. Theoretically, one does not need to be
other than "wholly Bengali", "wholly Tamil", or
"wholly Muslim" in
order to be utterly Indian; one cannot say the same of Pakistan and
its Hindus citizens, and the religious colour of the Kashmiri movement
means it is almost inconceivable that this won't be true of an
independent Kashmir as well (even leaving aside the obvious ethnic
dimension).
Indeed, even if one were to take the likes of Yasin Malik at their
word, they promise no more than Jawaharlal Nehru did, that is to say a
secular state where all who live in Kashmir, of whatever ethnicity or
religious persuasion, will be equal in the eyes of the state; why and
how could such a project -- essentially the same Nehruvian show on a
smaller stage -- yield a better result? On the contrary, all the signs
are that an independent Kashmir would be more like Pakistan than
India: not because both are Muslim majority (that is irrelevant to the
point I am making), but because both movements are explicitly
predicated on a favoured community that is less than everyone who
lives within the state's borders.
Why does any of this matter? Because nation-states where "second-
class" citizenship is implicit -- think the United States prior to de-
segregation; I assume Roy would include India; but really one could
argue some are always more equal than others in all nation-states --
can be called out on their failures. Such nation-states are guilty of
hypocrisy, but hypocrisy is not the worst sin; indeed hypocrisy, by
opening up a gap between theory and practice, between promise and
reality, makes it possible to hold a mirror up to the state, to try
and compel it to honour its own promise to itself; and enables us to
argue that the nation-state is only imperfectly itself until it takes
a good long look in that mirror.
In short, the point is that while the Jim Crow South is unforgiveable,
the civil rights movement and Martin Luther King's "I Have a
Dream"
moment are possible in a USA where actual practice made a mockery of
the nation-state's constitutional guarantees of equal protection under
the laws; they would not be possible in the face of apartheid South
Africa, which could not be reformed, simply destroyed. It is far more
difficult, perhaps insurmountably so, to call the nation-state to task
where it has promised and can promise nothing different than what it
offers (one can rebel and try and dismantle the state, but one can't
make it see the problem): beyond a point, a "Pakistan for
Pakistanis",
that is to say for Pakistanis of all religious persuasions, would make
no sense, and would undermine the national idea (substitute
"ethnicities" for "religious communities" and the idea of
Pakistan
becomes more flexible; it should come as no surprise that the movement
for ethnic justice, greater federalism, and rights for smaller
provinces, has far more legs in Pakistan than any movement for the
rights of religious minorities; ethnicity illustrates the potential
flexibility, but also the limits, of the idea of Pakistan; and even
with respect to ethnicity, the difference of even a Bengali Muslim
identity that was deemed "too Hindu" could not be accommodated within
the state).
A "Kashmir for Kashmiris" is far closer to the idea of Pakistan than
to the Nehru's India, and perhaps closest of all to Bangladesh,
seeking to compress both 1947 and 1971 in one secessionist moment. Roy
would do well to remember the "Biharis" stranded in refugee camps in
Bangladesh since 1971, Muslim but not Bangladeshi enough; and she
herself mentions the 1971 genocide of Bengalis by the Pakistani army,
who were not Muslim enough. The promise of the Kashmiri movement
combines both of these nightmares.
None of this is about the decency or lack thereof of Mirwaiz Farooq,
or Yasin Malik, or anyone else. The question isn't whether these are
or are not upstanding politicians who genuinely believe that Kashmir
belongs to all Kashmiris, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, or Sikh, or not;
the more important question concerns the logic of what they let loose
in the world (more accurately, the logic that they and would-be
nationalists of all stripes have attempted to replicate for decades).
The azadi demanded by the Kashmiri movement, and used by Roy as a
rallying cry, is not the answer to that question; the freedom we need
is azadi from the mindset that thinks of peoples and communities only
in terms of nation-states; and equally, an azadi that demands that the
Indian state honour its promise, to itself and to us.
The nation-state as political Alpha and Omega was problematic in its
European birthplaces to begin with; to continue to cling to it as the
last best hope of ethnic or religious minorities in milieus like
India's (or Africa's, or the Balkans'; pick your poison), in the
wake
of the man-made disasters that have befallen us over the last century,
is nothing short of bankrupt.
Umair Ahmed Muhajir is based in New York City. When not blogging at
qalandari.blogspot.com or contributing to naachgaana.com, he makes a
living as a lawyer.
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