[Reader-list] The updated list of killings by the firing ofarmedforces

[Lalit Ambardar]

The opposite of a 'state' would be 'anarchy'.Let us not encourage it.

> From: jeebesh at sarai.net> To: reader-list at sarai.net> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:27:48 +0530> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The updated list of killings by the firing ofarmedforces> > It maybe worthwhile to see Deewar by Yash Chopra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deewaar_(1975_film) > ) and see the difficulty of producing the clean, legible and > UNmarked subject to be governed by state.> > On 18-Sep-08, at 4:10 PM, radhikarajen at vsnl.net wrote:> > > May GOD bless you and your intellect to understand that the GOD that > > you are invoking as Allah is the same for me as Ram/Shiva and for > > other followers of faith, christianity, it is Christ.> > As to evidence what more evidence is needed when you bring your > > women and children as shields, hide behind them with your slogans > > and shoot your own leaders from behind. ? Just as Mulla of lal masid > > in Pakistan encouraged youth like you for jihad, promised jannath of > > 72 virgins and janath made of gold and silver, but Mulla himself ran > > away in Burkha , away from that jannath. !> >> > Well as to argument that 7 lakh people come out to listen to > > azadi, does it justify the lack of governance of omar Abdulla or his > > fathers life in London and golf course.? Or to that matter, Mufti by > > backdoor taking Congress Gulam to be CM to sow the seeds of > > disharmony between communities. ?> >> > Basic truth is that citizens of the nation, be it in kashmir or > > kanyakumari, be it in Bengal or Gujarath, need good governance > > without fear or favour to any commune vote bank., without > > discrimination. Rioters who riot have to be disciplined whichever > > caste or faith they belong, it does not matter for the nation and > > its citizens.Deviant behaviour of anyone be it SIMI or bhajrang > > dal, pentecostal missionaries or nuns and priests of any faith, > > has to be accounted for by the system of governance as we are the > > governance as citizens of the nation.> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: Khurram Parvez <khurramparvez at yahoo.com>> > Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:14 pm> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The updated list of killings by the > > firing ofarmedforces> > To: radhikarajen at vsnl.net> > Cc: SARAI <reader-list at sarai.net>> >> >> Do you have any evidence to prove, "...whether the protesters who> >> claim to be peaceful, holding sticks, guns and resort to > >> arson...."???> >>> >> Ofcourse if you are an apologist of Indian state I expect you to> >> legitimize; the killings of civilians in the name of national> >> interests, raping the women in the name of security, imposing an> >> economic blockade to discipline the anti-Indians, attacking the> >> places of worship for countering terrorism.> >>> >> May God bless you and your country.> >>> >> Khurram> >>> >>> >> --- On Thu, 9/18/08, radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net>> >> wrote:> >> From: radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net>> >> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The updated list of killings by the> >> firing of armedforces> >> To: khurramparvez at yahoo.com> >> Cc: "SARAI" <reader-list at sarai.net>> >> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 1:16 AM> >>> >> Khurram,> >>> >> your post makes me wonder, whether the protesters who claim to be> >> peaceful,holding sticks, guns and resort to arson and riot should> >> be garlanded. ?> >>> >> And also factional rivalry within hurriyath and the love for hate> >> and passion> >> for blood of these freedom fighters have clearly shown that they> >> can indulge in> >> killing each other during the mass protests to eliminate their> >> rivals.!> >> Regards.> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----> >> From: Khurram Parvez <khurramparvez at yahoo.com>> >> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:38 pm> >> Subject: [Reader-list] The updated list of killings by the firing> >> of armedforces> >> To: SARAI <reader-list at sarai.net>> >>> >>> KILLINGS IN JAMMU DURING Amarnath Sangharsh Samiti Protests> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> S.NO> >>>> >>>> >>> NAME> >>>> >>>> >>> PARENTAGE> >>>> >>>> >>> DATE> >>>> >>>> >>> ADDRESS/PLACE OF KILLING> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> 1.> >>>> >>>> >>> Sunny Padha (30)> >>>> >>>> >>> Khemraj Padha> >>>> >>>> >>> August 4-2008> >>>> >>>> >>> Samba> >>>> >>>> >>> 2.> >>>> >>> Sanjeev Singh (24)> >>>> >>> Chanchal Singh> >>>> >>> August 4-2008> >>>> >>> Samba> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> KILLINGS DURING 2008 PRO-FREEDOM PROTESTS> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> S.NO> >>>> >>>> >>> NAME> >>>> >>>> >>> PARENTAGE> >>>> >>>> >>> DATE> >>>> >>>> >>> ADDRESS/PLACE OF KILLING> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Feroz Ahmad Rah, (35)> >>> (Conductor)> >>>> >>>> >>> Late.Ghulam.Hassan Rah> >>>> >>>> >>> June 23,2008> >>>> >>> Jogiwan, Botakadal> >>> Killed at Nowhatta> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Farooq Ahmad Rather> >>> (Student)> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> June 25,2008> >>>> >>> Mazhama, Magam> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Sameer Ahmad, (24), Driver> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> June 25,2008> >>>> >>> Tashwan Chowk Fatehkadal> >>> Killed at Nawakadal> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Imtiyaz Ahmad, (19)> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> June 28,2008> >>>> >>> Firdous colony Bemina> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Abdul Gani Sheikh, (75)> >>>> >>> Abdul Samad Sheikh> >>>> >>> July 1,2008> >>>> >>> Ganie Mohalla Budgam> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Feroz Ahmad Khan> >>> (Coppersmith)> >>>> >>> Mehraj-ud-din> >>>> >>> June 24, 2008(succumbed on July 5, 2008)> >>>> >>> Taeng-pora, Nawab Bazaar> >>> Killed at Basant Bagh> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Asif Mehraj (16)> >>>> >>> Mehraj-ud-Din> >>>> >>> August 4,2008> >>>> >>> Maisuma> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Sheikh Abdul Aziz (Senior Hurriyat Conference Leader)> >>>> >>> Pampore> >>>> >>> August 11,2008> >>>> >>> Killed at Uri> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Manzoor Ahmad Akhoon> >>>> >>> Haji Abdul Shaban> >>>> >>> August 11,2008> >>>> >>> Khanpora Baramulla> >>> Killed at Uri> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Abdul Hamid Bhat> >>>> >>> Dr. Abdul Qayoom> >>>> >>> August 11,2008> >>>> >>> Kanlibagh, Baramulla> >>> Killed at Uri> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Ishfaq Ahmad> >>>> >>> Ghulam Muhammad> >>>> >>> August 11,2008> >>>> >>> Qamarwari.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Mehboob Hussain Deewani> >>>> >>> Khursheed Ahmad> >>>> >>> August 11,2008> >>>> >>> Bilal Colony, Bemina (killed at Parimpora)> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Tahir Nazir Lone> >>>> >>> Nazir Ahmad> >>>> >>> August 11,2008> >>>> >>> Thenam Kreeri, Pattan> >>> Killed at Sangrama> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Irfan Ahmad War> >>>> >>> Bashir Ahmad> >>>> >>> August 11,2008> >>>> >>> Krashun Sopore> >>> Killed at Uri> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Abid Mustafa Sheikh (18)> >>>> >>> Ghulam Mustafa Sheikh> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Lasjan> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Kamraan Sheikh> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 12, 2008> >>>> >>> Bemina> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Imtiyaz Ahmad Bhat (19)> >>>> >>> Abdul Gani> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Lasjan> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Hasina Begum> >>>> >>> W/O: Bashir Ahmad Mir> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Lasjan> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Jabeena Begum> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Lasjan> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Imran Qayoom Wani (25)> >>>> >>> Abdul Qayoom> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Bagh-e-Mehtab> >>> Killed at Bagh-e-Mehtab> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Owais Majeed> >>>> >>> Abdul Majeed> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Rainawari> >>> Killed at Rainawari> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Javaid Ahmad Mir> >>> Cameraman of a local news channel, 9TV> >>>> >>> Ghulam Ahmad> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Beighpora, Baghi-Mehtab> >>> Killed at Baghi-Mehtab> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Mumtaz Ahmed Bhat> >>>> >>> Mohammad Afzal> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Aloosa Bandipora> >>> Killed at 15 RR camp Paribal Bandipora> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Ali Muhammad Khanday> >>>> >>> Ghulam Mohammad> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Aloosa gath> >>> Killed at 15 RR camp Paribal Bandipora> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Muhammad Shafi Ganai> >>>> >>> Abdul Aziz> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Ganai Mohalla Aloosa> >>> Killed at 15 RR camp Paribal Bandipora> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Mehrajudin Khah> >>>> >>> Abdul Salam> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Aloosa gath Bandipora> >>> Killed at 15 RR camp Paribal Bandipora> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Javaid Ahmad> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Mansbal> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Muhammad Aslam Khan> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Kandiwara, Sagam, Kokernag> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Muhammad Saleem Shah> >>>> >>> Peer Muhammad Shah> >>>> >>> August 12> >>>> >>> Naibasti Islamabad> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Showkat Ahmed Najar> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 12> >>>> >>> Marhama Bijbehara> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Sajjad Ahmad> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 12> >>>> >>> Rohama, Rafiabad> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Irfan Ahmad Ganie> >>>> >>> Bashir Ahmad> >>>> >>> August 11,2008 (Succumbed on Aug 12,2008)> >>>> >>> Seer Jagier Sopore> >>> Killed at Uri> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Muhammad Maqbool Killam> >>>> >>> Abdul Gani Kaleem> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Kishtwar> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Gufraan> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Thakrai, Kishtwar> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Gazanfar Sheikh (10)> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 12,2008> >>>> >>> Kishtwar> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Hafizullah Baba> >>>> >>> Muhammad Jamal> >>>> >>> August 12,2008 (Succumbed on Aug 13)> >>>> >>> Barthan Qamarwari> >>> Killed at Parimpora> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Faisal Ahmed Dar> >>>> >>> Showkat Ahmad Dar> >>>> >>> August 12,2008 (Succumbed on Aug 13)> >>>> >>> Nowhatta> >>> Killed at Baghi-Mehtab> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Tanveer Ahmed Handoo> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 14,2008> >>>> >>> Safa Kadal> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Muhammad Rafiq> >>>> >>> Muhammad Altaf> >>>> >>> August> >>>> >>> Zoonimar (killed at Saidapora)> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Latief Ahmad Wani> >>>> >>> Mohammad Amin> >>>> >>> August 17,2008> >>>> >>> Khan colony, Chanapora> >>> Presently Pantachowk> >>> Beaten and scorched by rioters on August 5,died in AIIMS Delhi> >> on> >>> August 17.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Ghulam Qadir Wakil> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 24,2008 succumbed on August 25,2008> >>>> >>> Killed near Dalgate> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Zahid Ahmad Banday> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 24,2008> >>>> >>> Killed at Pushkar Khag, Beerwah, Budgam> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Mohammad Shafi Dar> >>>> >>> Ghulam Nabi> >>>> >>> August 25,2008> >>>> >>> Killed at Hajan Chowk> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Naseema> >>>> >>> W/o Mohammad Ashraf> >>>> >>> August 25,2008> >>>> >>> Killed at Hajan Chowk> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Shahid Ahmad Pahloo> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 25,2008> >>>> >>> Saderkot Balla> >>> Killed at Hajan Chowk> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Basit Bashir> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 25,2008> >>>> >>> Pulwama> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Fayaz Ahmad Wani> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 25,2008> >>>> >>> Pulwama> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Fahmeeda> >>>> >>> W/o Fayaz Ahmad> >>>> >>> August 25,2008> >>>> >>> Chontipura Handwara> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Mohammad Yousuf Banday> >>>> >>>> > =3E >> >>> August 27,2008> >>>> >>> Banday Mohalla Handwara> >>> Killed at Banday Mohalla> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Hilal Ahmad Mir> >>>> >>> Abdul Khaliq Mir> >>>> >>> August 27, 2008> >>>> >>> Soibugh Budgam> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Ghulam Nabi Wani> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 27, 2008> >>>> >>> Soibugh Budgam.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Showket Ahmad Khanday> >>>> >>> Mohammad Abdullah> >>>> >>> August 25, 2008> >>>> >>> Narbal Hanzghad (Srinagar-Baramulla Highway)> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Name not ascertained yet> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 11, 2008> >>>> >>> Resident of Boniyar> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Name not ascertained yet> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 12, 2008> >>>> >>> Killed at Nagabal, Ganderbal> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Javiad Iqbal Bhat (Sumo Driver by profession)> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> August 4-2008> >>>> >>> Killed at Nowhatta-Srinagar> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Sajjad Ahmed Ganai (18)> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> September 12, 2008> >>>> >>> Malik Mohalla, Shopian> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Manzoor Afzal Sheikh (24)> >>>> >>> Mohammad Afzal Sheikh> >>>> >>> September 12, 2008> >>>> >>> Kupwara> >>> Killed at Baramulla old town> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _________________________________________> >>> reader-list: an 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