[Reader-list] When cowards run the State, the nation bleeds

Sun Sep 21 20:54:36 IST 2008

>>>>>>>>>>>>>there are people who say IM too are not terrorists,how to
balance it<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Inder Ji,

This is not balancing. This is appeasing.

Pawan

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:54 AM, inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Singh
> Genius is a scanalous audacity of nothing, well said by  JP Sartre
>
> well, who will define the activities of BajrangDal ?  for me they are
> terrorists
>
> there are people who say IM too are not terrorists,
> how to balance it
>
> the best is if we commit ourselves to secular values, guaranteed in
> the constitution.
> we can not give latitude to one and accuse the other
>
> that will be counterproductiive
>
> let us see and wathc
> best
> is
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Prabhakar Singh
> <prabhakardelhi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Dear Inder,
> >
> > This is where genius intellectuals like you fail when they try to confuse
> the issue and try to take sides cleverly.Issue is terrorism not
> secularism.To please you let us ban a small Bajrang Dal first and make all
> Islamic terrorists operating under different names and banners free to
> operate anywhere in the name of
> equality,secularism,minority,backwardness,vote-bank etc. who have shaken the
> entire world by their activities.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Prabhakar
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
> > To: reader-list at sarai.net
> > Sent: Sunday, 21 September, 2008 12:25:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] When cowards run the State, the nation bleeds
> >
> > dear aditya,
> > just want to know what is your reaction to Paswan's demand to ban Bajrang
> Dal?
> >
> > i think he should have demanded this a decade earlier,
> > when we demand a ban on Simi we should automatically ban BajrangDal and
> VHP ?
> >
> > and if not , just tell me why,
> > if the  Govt. fails to ban BajragDal, they are truly cowards,
> >
> > this is to restore some basic components of secularism in india.
> >
> > love
> > is
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Aditya Raj Kaul
> > <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>  When cowards run the State, the nation bleeds
> >>
> >> *Tarun Vijay | *September 17, 2008
> >>
> >> http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/sep/17tarun.htm
> >>
> >> Again the same old stories, the same threats and same resolve of
> politicos,
> >> like wet, squeezed paper. We told you so, at that date and time, but you
> >> didn't listen. We asked for a stringent law. Our intelligence department
> was
> >> warned, yet no one acted.
> >>
> >> It's a plot to derail the peace process with Pakistan, we shall never
> get
> >> trapped but continue our *mohabbat*. They are not Islamists. Bad guys
> have
> >> no religion, so don't say it's Islamic terrorism. They come from
> nowhere.
> >> May be from Mars, but certainly not from Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. They
> are
> >> not our people, not Kashmiris or Delhi-ites.
> >>
> >> Don't embarrass Pakistan by pointing fingers at it or at SIMI or
> Hurriyat --
> >> we are continuing with our Confidence Building Measures and such blasts
> aim
> >> to disrupt it. Why should we allow that?
> >>
> >> Another feature, another magazine: SIMI is an association like the YMCA,
> >> these communal hate-mongers have connived with the Congress government
> to
> >> implicate them wrongly while they were conducting adult education
> classes.
> >> Please see the truth from secular eyes and defeat the anti-Afzal Guru
> crowd.
> >> Maybe the next time we will include Afzal as a minister for internal
> >> security after having experimented with the Muslim League as a partner
> in
> >> governance.
> >>
> >> The Deoband's concerned maulvis will again issue a statement to be
> welcomed
> >> by all peace-loving people. Look, they have again said that their
> scriptures
> >> don't recommend this kind of violent jihad and killing innocent people.
> But
> >> no one would ask them how many killers of the jihadi variety have turned
> >> peaceniks and left their bomb factories after such dictates.
> >>
> >> 'Hindu intolerant groups behind such bomb blasts!' -- another secular
> >> television channel would scream -- because they create an atmosphere to
> >> malign Muslims and get votes, it's election time folks. These bomb
> blasts,
> >> like the Godhra train fire, have been planned by Hindu chauvinists.
> >>
> >> A job well done. We can all go to sleep.
> >>
> >> When cowards run the State, the nation bleeds.
> >>
> >> A will to eliminate the weeds and face the wrath of malevolent elements
> with
> >> the confidence of a victor is the prerequisite to be a ruler and, yes,
> to be
> >> a citizen. If it's there, you build a nation. If not, civilisations
> vanish.
> >>
> >> If citizens encourage and harbour the wicked, forget dates like December
> 13
> >> that should be remembered, forget to take revenge on anti-nationals,
> >> continue with their late-night parties when dead bodies of their fellow
> >> citizens lie splattered in busy fashion markets, no one can save that
> >> deadwood society.
> >>
> >> Where writers and columnists advocate yielding to the gun-wielding
> >> secessionists because 'they want it', no one can save that country from
> >> disintegrating as every day new secessionists will emerge.
> >>
> >> It's useless to blame this party or that organisation. See what we have
> done
> >> and to what level the state of affairs have been brought to. Everything
> >> boils down to personal wars and wins, and homemade potboilers rule the
> top
> >> echelons of organisations.
> >>
> >> The nation as a matter of serious planning and vision has simply
> vanished
> >> off the agendas of those who are the known faces of our leadership and
> >> decision-making mechanism of the State.
> >>
> >> Personal jealousies, vendettas and *mandi*-isation of the high and
> mighty
> >> turn peoples' security into a joke of the ghostland where signal-jammers
> and
> >> black cat commandos iconise the Neros and the Republic is left to fend
> for
> >> itself.
> >>
> >> This is our state of affairs today.
> >>
> >> Any day, any time, anyone.
> >>
> >> Free Afzal committees. Visits to the Azamgarh home of a terrorist.
> Demand
> >> citizenship for Bangladeshi infiltrators. Demand ban on patriotic
> >> organisations. Win the election. That's the final aim of governance and
> our
> >> living. Only the people are to be blamed. It's a democracy. Choose those
> who
> >> bring you safety and succour. *If you choose the marauders you get back
> >> marauders.*
> >>
> >> The Indian people, as Indians alone, have done it marvellously before
> too
> >> whenever the occasion demanded solidarity and cohesion. Kargil saw it,
> 1965
> >> saw it, 1962 had a great solidarity of the patriots. Always, it's the
> >> leaders and politicians who have failed the country and backstabbed the
> >> trust people had reposed in them.
> >>
> >> Peoples' power saw that the culprits behind the Uphaar cinema fire
> tragedy
> >> case were brought to book, however influential they may be. It was
> because
> >> of their pressure and media build-up that the Nandas were punished in
> the
> >> BMW case. The Right to Information Act is a great instrument given to
> the
> >> people not because politicians wanted it but there was public pressure
> to
> >> have it and finally it was done.
> >>
> >> And look how Jammu rose to see the tricolour win against the Pakistani
> flag-
> >> *wallah*s. No one had ever imagined a people can create an upsurge
> unknown
> >> in regional history and win too. Great things happen nimble-footed. The
> >> British never had ay inkling of the 1857 uprising till Mangal Pandey
> shot
> >> the British officer in Barrackpore. Jayaprakash Narayn's too was a
> movement
> >> whose expanse and impact no one had anticipated, and so was the Ram
> >> Janambhoomi movement that changed the contours of the Indian polity.
> >>
> >> If people will, they can.
> >>
> >> Indians will have to decide how many more will have to die before they
> feel
> >> compelled to rise in revolt. India needs a rebellion of Indian people
> who
> >> would merge all their other identities under one banner -- the
> tricolour.
> >> Forget temples, churches and mosques. The first to protect the church
> should
> >> be a Hindu like the first to protect a swami should be a Christian.
> That's
> >> where the nation gets life.
> >>
> >> When the nation is in peril, gods must be discovered in national unity
> and
> >> not within concrete structures. These ugly, nincompoop politicos need to
> be
> >> thrown into the dustbin lock, stock and barrel. The truth is we, as
> Indians,
> >> never paid a price for our independence and honour. When I had
> interviewed
> >> Morarji Desai, which turned out to be one of his last, in his Mumbai
> >> apartment, he said not more than five percent Indians had participated
> in
> >> the independence struggle. The rest were either too lazy to come out or
> had
> >> lined up before the British for *bakshish* and be their officers.
> >>
> >> Read what Abraham Lincoln did to save America from disintegration and
> his
> >> famous Gettysburg address and also his inaugural one as president. He
> >> accepted a civil war but refused the demand to divide America. Nearly
> seven
> >> lakh Americans died in that war, but a new sun rose on its horizon that
> >> inspired millions across the globe with its egalitarian and democratic
> >> values.
> >>
> >> *What sacrifices have we offered to save national integrity and the
> civil
> >> life of our nation?*
> >>
> >> Isn't it time to ask this question and rise in rebellion to say 'no' to
> this
> >> bloodbath unitedly?
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