[Reader-list] Communism Or Terrorism? -Kamala Sarup

[Pawan Durani]

Yes, I love the first line ""If people cannot honor and love their country
then their country cannot love them."
God Bless

Pawan

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com>wrote:

> "If people cannot honor and love their country then their country cannot
> love
> them. Therefore, the other half of the approach for answering this question
> is that governments and their leaders must honor and respect their people
> as
> well. They can do this by publicly declaring the democratic freedoms (such
> as the freedoms of speech, press, and religion) that their countrymen
> possess and by transparently and consistently honoring these freedoms all
> the time. One way that governments may do this is by establishing and
> developing stable and fair legal and courts systems."
>
> Just quoting the concluding para from the article you posted.
>
> Think about it.
>
> Rgds, Partha
> ...............................
>
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00099.htm
>>
>> Communism Or Terrorism?
>> By Kamala Sarup <http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00099.htm#a>
>>
>>
>> I will define terrorism as "the murder of innocents", i.e., non-military,
>> non-police, and non-politicians. Thus defined, perhaps communists/maoists
>> in
>> some countries practice terrorism, e.g., Peru and Columbia, but not all. I
>> don't associate the former Russian and East European brands of communism
>> with terrorism. The separatists in Ireland and Spain are terrorists, but
>> not
>> communists. Muslim terrorists are not communists, generally. Radical
>> Muslim
>> terrorists are not communists, generally. I don't see the connection
>> between
>> the two terms. But It is widely known that why communism meant in practice
>> bloody terrorism and forced labor?.
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, we have much evidence that a communist economic system
>> is
>> associated with an authoritarian government system, which means that a
>> government elite enhances its economic, judicial and political freedoms
>> and
>> suppresses those who are led by them. There is no theoretical reason for
>> communism to be associated with authoritarianism, but in fact it is and
>> has
>> always been that way. Democratic-communistic societies have always been
>> very
>> small and very short-lived, so I have no hope that one will ever exist for
>> very long in the future anywhere.
>>
>> If the leaders (meaning the government) of countries promote education and
>> values that emphasize national and international identification rather
>> than
>> ethnic, religious, tribal or clan identification, then the ethnic,
>> religious, tribal and clan conflicts will diminish, in the long run. If
>> they
>> promote sufficient economic, judicial and political equality, then the
>> people at the bottom of the ladder will not want to topple those at the
>> top.
>> The results of reducing conflict are that when people engage in production
>> and art rather than war, then the killing and maiming are reduced and the
>> general living standards are increased and people are more satisfied.
>> However, people are ignorant, aggressive and acquisitive, so some conflict
>> will always remain.
>>
>> However, some internal conflict, including wars, will always exist in a
>> country. If we study U.S. or any European country history, we will find
>> continued bloody and non-bloody conflicts. However, since 1945, the end of
>> WW II, they have been relatively peaceful, both internally and externally.
>> Will they remain so for the indefinite future? We and our children will
>> see!
>>
>> After the communists took over power by destroying democracy and monarchy,
>> Combodia, Ethiopia, and Afganistan became weak economically and
>> politically.
>> Nepal has to learn from these countries. Now, the situation in Combodia is
>> getting better because the Cambodian people brought back multiparty
>> democracy and constitutional monarchy by ousting the Maoist Khmer Rouge.
>>
>> Twenty-nine years after the communist took over the power in Ethiopia and
>> the King, Jahir Shah, was sent out of Afghanistan, the people have
>> suffered
>> immensely.
>>
>> What I am saying about the Maoist guerrilla issue is that the question
>> should not be which government system is better, mine or yours." Trying to
>> answer this question will only lead to chaos and hatred, death and
>> destruction, violence and murder. Why take that deadly path? A better and
>> more practical way to approach this problem by first realizing that all
>> people everywhere on earth need to focus on loving their country (wherever
>> that country may be). Similarly they should have respect for their leaders
>> and governments, and on having a greater pride in the land in which they
>> live and call home.
>>
>> This world's economy revolves around and even depends upon stable
>> governments everywhere. If each individual was to do his or her civic duty
>> by honoring his or her home country, then economies would be built up in
>> the
>> process. For example, exercising their voting rights by voting in greater
>> numbers during elections, increasing their loyalty to their companies by
>> looking for more ways to being productive, and most importantly, honoring
>> their father and mother, sisters and brothers, friends and neighbors are
>> ways to make up a better nation.
>>
>> An effective way to deliver a just government system is by building one
>> that
>> possesses a mature checks and balance system, one that limits the effects
>> of
>> corruption and therefore helps to protect the civil rights of every
>> citizen
>> of the country. It's time for the people to stop looking in envy to other
>> lands to satisfy their idea of a desirable place to be, to stop looking to
>> other countries to find their ideal home. It's time for the people to look
>> to their own homes, their own families, and their own communities to
>> realize
>> how valuable and precious their own land really is.
>>
>> Six million Ukrainians two million Cambodians, millions of North Koreans,
>> millions in Zimbabwe and in Tito's Yugoslavia are starving to death right
>> now. The total population of Cambodia, Turkey, Iran, or Argentina had to
>> lose their life or suffer from starvation, malnutrition and undiagnosed or
>> mistreated illnesses. Millions are uncounted for, incarcerated and have
>> starved to death or died due to exposure. Communists believed that Marxism
>> would bring about the greatest human welfare and power must be used to
>> tear
>> down the feudal or capitalist order but in practice, this system did not
>> improve the lot of the average person, instead it usually made their
>> living
>> conditions worse.
>>
>> It is really sad to know that some 100 million people worldwide lost their
>> lives to the ideological scourge of communism after 1917. They include the
>> victims of Stalin's terror, victims of the Chinese Cultural Revolution;
>> victims of the Cambodian genocide; victims of the Latin American and Cuban
>> civil wars; East and Central Europeans dying in the uprisings of 1953,
>> 1956
>> and 1968 against their communist rulers. Communists also committed
>> genocide.
>> Genocide is the killing of people because of their ethnicity, race,
>> religion, or language.
>>
>> A Combodian citizen stated to local media that "Khmer Rouge said they were
>> creating a utopian nation where everyone would be equal but while the
>> entire
>> population was dying of starvation and disease, the Khmer Rouge soldiers
>> and
>> the communist party members were able to choose any woman or man they
>> wanted
>> to marry. In addition to limitless food, they were also crazy about gold,
>> jewelry, perfume, imported watches, western medicine, cars, motorcycles,
>> bicycles, silk, and other imported goods. I cannot forget how one woman
>> was
>> forced to cook her husband's liver, which was cut out while he was still
>> alive. Women were raped before execution. In fact, every day, every minute
>> the communists step on the rights of people like us, debase our values and
>> restrict our freedoms. Communism and terrorism have a mutual aim."
>>
>> Most deadly of all communist countries has been Cambodia under the Khmer
>> Rouge. They killed some 2 million Cambodians. The Soviet Union appears to
>> be
>> the greatest murderer of all, apparently killing near 61,000,000 people.
>> Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these brutal
>> killings. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 were due to lethal
>> forced labor in the gulag and transit there to.
>>
>> As most communist governments underwent increasing liberalization and a
>> loosening of centralized power in the 1960s through the 1980s, the pace of
>> killing dropped off sharply.
>>
>> If people cannot honor and love their country then their country cannot
>> love
>> them. Therefore, the other half of the approach for answering this
>> question
>> is that governments and their leaders must honor and respect their people
>> as
>> well. They can do this by publicly declaring the democratic freedoms (such
>> as the freedoms of speech, press, and religion) that their countrymen
>> possess and by transparently and consistently honoring these freedoms all
>> the time. One way that governments may do this is by establishing and
>> developing stable and fair legal and courts systems.
>>
>> Now, many Nepalese want peace at any price. We don't know how high the
>> price
>> was that we have to pay for the Maoist's peace?.
>>
>> *************
>>
>> ( Kamaal Sarup is editor of http://peacejournalism.com/ )
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