[Reader-list] Heavy Hitters Against US Bailout

Abhishek Hazra abhishek.hazra at gmail.com
Mon Sep 29 22:23:08 IST 2008


>>PS - I really enjoy the articles etc. you post on the list. Helps clear
some
of that Kashmir air. . .

same here.

abhishek

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Isaac souweine <isouweine at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Naeem -
>
> Well, I guess we're saying just about the same thing then, huh? As in - the
> bailout probably isn't that sweet a deal for the common folk. Not that one
> needs a fancy PhD to guess that much would be true ;-) As someone who pays
> into the American treasury every April 15, I guess it's especially appaling
> to see this year's misue of my funds, but when you think that a similar
> amount went to the Iraq boondoggle, and when you consider the annual size
> of
> the defense budget - well, its hard not to feel a little fatalistic. . .
>
> As for Moore, I would say "don't get me started" but really it's a pleasure
> to. Every time I read another open letter from that one-trick
> "documentarian" turned folksy champion of the left, I marvel to myself at
> how snugly Moore fits into America's system of cultural hegemony. Where
> buffoonery and emotive populism hold sway, the rational discourse required
> for real policy change fear to tread. Of course, Moore's politics are often
> in the generally right direction, viz. gun control, health care, the Bush
> years etc., and one could argue that his "gadflyism" opens up space for
> cooler heads to actually do some thinking, but my guess is that every time
> Michael Moore hits send, the powers that be chuckle to themselves.
>
> Cheers,
> Isaac
>
> PS - I really enjoy the articles etc. you post on the list. Helps clear
> some
> of that Kashmir air. . .
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Naeem Mohaiemen <
> naeem.mohaiemen at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > > 1. Re: Michael Moore: The Rich Are Staging a Coup This Morning (Isaac
> > souweine)
> > > I too found Moore's rant difficult to follow. I think that's what we
> call
> > being out of your depth.
> > ...
> > > Shiller is a pretty heavy hitter <
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Shiller>
> >
> > Moore rants unapologetically because that's his style. Some may find
> > it grating but it's who he is, and his focus is on winning over middle
> > america's mass undecided. His style may irritate, and his
> > footnote-less prose may dismay, but the core sentiments I find echoed
> > in various shades by others-- not on healthcare, that's reflective of
> > MM's singular focus since making SICKO the film; but on worries about
> > the fundamental economic unfairness of this bailout plan.
> >
> > 1. Is the Bailout Needed? Many Economists Say "No"
> > http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/53107.html
> >
> > 2. Stiglitz on a Better Bailout
> > http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081013/stiglitz
> >
> > 3. Economists see need for a penalty
> > http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/23/business/23skeptics.php
> >
> > 4.Ferguson-Johnson: Bridge Loan to Nowhere
> > http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081006/ferguson_johnson
> >
> > 5. Economists Petition to House of Representatives
> >
> >
> http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/john.cochrane/research/Papers/mortgage_protest.htm
> >
> > To the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro
> > tempore of the Senate:
> >
> > As economists, we want to express to Congress our great concern for
> > the plan proposed by Treasury Secretary Paulson to deal with the
> > financial crisis. We are well aware of the difficulty of the current
> > financial situation and we agree with the need for bold action to
> > ensure that the financial system continues to function. We see three
> > fatal pitfalls in the currently proposed plan:
> >
> > 1) Its fairness. The plan is a subsidy to investors at taxpayers'
> > expense. Investors who took risks to earn profits must also bear the
> > losses.  Not every business failure carries systemic risk. The
> > government can ensure a well-functioning financial industry, able to
> > make new loans to creditworthy borrowers, without bailing out
> > particular investors and institutions whose choices proved unwise.
> >
> > 2) Its ambiguity. Neither the mission of the new agency nor its
> > oversight are clear. If  taxpayers are to buy illiquid and opaque
> > assets from troubled sellers, the terms, occasions, and methods of
> > such purchases must be crystal clear ahead of time and carefully
> > monitored afterwards.
> >
> > 3) Its long-term effects.  If the plan is enacted, its effects will be
> > with us for a generation. For all their recent troubles, America's
> > dynamic and innovative private capital markets have brought the nation
> > unparalleled prosperity.  Fundamentally weakening those markets in
> > order to calm short-run disruptions is desperately short-sighted.
> >
> > For these reasons we ask Congress not to rush, to hold appropriate
> > hearings, and to carefully consider the right course of action, and to
> > wisely determine the future of the financial industry and the U.S.
> > economy for years to come.
> >
> >
> > Signed (updated at 9/25/2008 8:30AM CT)
> >
> > Acemoglu Daron (Massachussets Institute of Technology)
> > Adler Michael (Columbia University)
> > Admati Anat R. (Stanford University)
> > Alexis Marcus (Northwestern University)
> > Alvarez Fernando (University of Chicago)
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