[Reader-list] Mallika Sarabhai's Public Meeting in JNU on 31stMarch

[bipin]

Dear Rakesh,

Rakesh, I think you don¡¦t won¡¦t to come out of your rigid belief and remain in the past. Be in present. My experience says that be in present and if you remain in past make rigid belief accordingly, you will never be happy. This will be applicable to general and will be helpful to your life when you grown up and start your real life after studies.

 

Now, I will give you very brief answer of the points raised by you since you will not understand any detailed explanation unless you read it with open and broad mind. Don¡¦t block your self to one belief only.

 

1) Advani is far better than the so called secularists and opportunists like Paswan, Farukh, Jaylalitha, Karunanidhi, Naidu, Mulayam, Lalu, Patnaik, Mayawati, communists (Yes, if you consider communists as secular than answer: why they allow infiltration of Bangladeshi¡¦s since many years and giving even ration card for what purpose. Just to take their vote. If they have stopped them from the starting only inspite of warning given to them many times would have been consider real secular. Actually this is the real case of National Security Act ¡V NSA, but no body bothering for it and for false reason Varun Gandhi is in this act. that¡¦s it. Even NDA did not do much when they were in power in this direction. However, they show will for this in couple of occasions. I don¡¦t say what Varun says is right he is immature person and could not say properly what he want to say. He should use world Bharatiya instead of Hindu). I invite sarai members to give their view whether I am right or wrong for this point 1.

 

I told you earlier, that BJP started playing Hindu vote bank to counter congress minor vote bank politics since almost independent. If anybody giving fight for Hindu right in Hindustan than it does not mean they are non-secular. This is also part of secularism.

 

2) if million of people¡¦s feelings (aatha) will be their in particular place even where I live and if there were few such traces of old monuments (temple or mosque) there I would be definitely pleased to give away that place for sake of million of people and in a way help to prevail peace. (though I don¡¦t prefer to go to dirty temples, instead I prefer to go to wild life jungles since I believe nature is the best temple made by god). Also, I told  you that ram-mandir issue is not the issue now and its subjudice and if you remain in past you will never grow. 

 

Ram/Krishna are consider to be yug-purush (person of that era) if you not consider them as god and there is no need of proof for their existence. As you say, they are myth than also millions of people has faith in them and with their inspiration one want to live their life, nothing wrong in it. Gita is considered to be best book globally accepted (don¡¦t ask again proof of it. You read it first and then argue on it) with full of philosophy of life and teach us how to live your life peacefully and happily. If you not believe Ram/Krishna as god than what about Ishu and Payagamber? According to you they are also not consider as god of Christian and Muslims. Don¡¦t ignore this answer me. Don¡¦t say that there is ampoule of proof for their existence. Since all the gods (ram/Krishna/ishu/Payagamber) are proving there existence by way of historical books and no witness today there. What applicable to one will be applicable to all. May be Mahatma Gandhi after few centuries prayed as god and some like you after 2000/3000 years that he can not be consider as god, but millions of people belief you can not change. The man becomes or accepted god with their acts of life they live. Since, we know Gandhi was man like us but with his work can be considered as Yug Purush.

 

Just I am giving single member name: Afzal Guru ¡V convicted by SC. My dear friend, sometime I doubt that even you are Indian by giving such challenge which is absolutely useless and even I fill with whom un-necessarily I am arguing with a immature boy. This is last mail from me you are receiving by way of clarification. Every one knows that in the recent bomb blasts took place in various cities, many local Muslims are arrested and court cases going on and you know in India court procedure takes much more time. Even, Mumbai train bomb blast case, what would you say for that? Think twice before giving such statement. Azamgadh (UP) has bad name for this activity will proved in the near future. Even in Malegoan case, Hindus are arrested and they should be punished as soon as possible if found guilty.

 

3) I don¡¦t say to get successful and show its effect after 3 years of its govt. Whatever, new policy matter they take up, some new laws they put up gets implemented and gets effected after some time and for govt. changes with entirely different base of thoughts will definitely take time. This time for our vast country will definitely take 2.5/3 years. Similarly when UPA came to power in 2005, the effect of NDA govt. by way of policy result will remain effected for at least 2007. Things will not change overnight moment the govt changes.

 

POTA should be there or not is expert has to decide. Who we are to judge for it and in my knowledge all the top intelligence agency, top police officials, army official¡¦s general view are of the opinion to have such law. Only Pseudo-secularist and some orthodox congressy are opposing it. Even in private many congress man also favoring such law.

 

4) You still don¡¦t understand the root based development. In the field of infrastructure development Gujarat way ahead in many ways than the other state. Gujarat roads were much better even before reforms started and it was agreed by tourist come over here, in power sector Gujarat is always ahead and almost having today uninterrupted power including villages. For this Gujarat is paying highest tariff for power and lowest power theft than rest of the India and this is the reason they get uninterrupted supply. Similarly it has highest no. of ports and this is due to their long seashore and highest no. domestic airports than any other states. Reason is, since their establishments, Gujarat has not given any subsidies by any means. No free electricity to farmers and they are paying as per norms only, never given any subsidies rice or such other thing but still Gujarat is ahead of all the state in many criteria. It gives highest income to central govt. highest investment in share market, post office saving, banks. Prosperity of Gujarat was there and Narendra Modi has just speeded this up by improving govt. efficiency by having total control over IAS cadre, minimize corruption, made govt PSU profitable. This is not small things. Gujarat has shown progress without subsidy is the proof of my argument.

 

5) Poor fellow, by wrongly mis-spelled if you fill that I am dis respecting her one can judge your level of thinking. The spelling end with kar or ker both are their and this is personal name spelling not the English word.

 

I have already mentioned earlier that still the canal work is going on and Kutch/Saurashtra is situated very far. For your information they are having water now in Kutch compared to previous years by way water harvesting and talawadi process. Sorry to say but in 2009 you mention September 2005 data. Who will believe with such foolish argument. Not even 2005 data after seeing your link, all the parameters mentioned there were in detail studied by court and given the permission there after only. This process of between 1993 to 2004. you are just making argument for this old issue which is already over. Again let me tell you if you keep past in mind always in this 21st century, I feel pity for you. This movement you have mentioned is run by foreign personal and their funding only coming to the Megha (spelling OK?) madam against this project. Such foreign official are normally against the India to grow and such many movement is going on with foreign various trust funding. Many NGO¡¦s and human right activities bread butter with such fund only. We are fully capable to judge what is good and bad for us and we do not have to depend on any body advise unless and until ask for.

 

6) As far as Dreze article is concerned with link: http://www.indiatogether.org/direct/2005/cdr-000063.html particularly content as ¡§In Kapari, Sursati Devi complained that she had worked for 60 days on a drought relief programme, but she had been paid only for one week. Even for that week she had received as little as 35 kgs of wheat, equivalent to Rs 30 per day or so. The minimum wage in Uttar Pradesh is Rs 58 per day. 

Earlier on, the Yatra heard many similar testimonies about the dismal state of public employment programmes as it traveled through the country's poorest districts. Some of the Yatris, students at Delhi University and Jawaharlal Nehru University, have also been associated with a survey of the Food-For-Work programme undertaken at the same time as the Yatra. The survey has uncovered widespread irregularities in the implementation of the programme. For instance, contractors are routinely used, in violation of the official Guidelines. Labourers never earn the statutory minimum, and many of them have worked for as little as Rs 20 or 25 a day. The muster rolls, which are supposed to be available for public scrutiny, are almost always withheld. And basic worksite facilities such as drinking water, shade for children and first-aid material are rarely available. ¡§

 

I think from above 2 para of the link, you come to conclusion of Rs. 20 per day. First of all this is report of June 2005 which you use today in 2009 (please come out of past again). This is particular incident of particular area of UP (may be some more incident might be there) which you can not take for granted of Rs. 20 per day wage getting in all the villages of India. This woman complained for payment of 1 week only against the work of 60 days. This is what I am trying to tell that by govt. authorities every where this is happening and huge amount being wasted. That¡¦s why these are all severe wastage of money and instead, if its used for basic infrastructure work would be more benefited and for this work also employment generation will be there. 

 

Infrastructure work does not only include road, power, ports, air-ports. These I have mentioned are basic infrastructure at central level. Education and other state/city/town/village level infrastructure like drainage, sanitation and irrigation are also there. Still it can be more. But, these things should be given priority against such schemes where people become lazy only.

 

7) I am sorry I misunderstood your sentence earlier of License raj read hurriedly at that time and happy to note that you do not support it. I am not saying all the subsidies are waste of money. I put priority first for the basic infrastructural development and with that I am sure standard of living will definitely come up and than also if necessary (But I am sure it will not required if proper infrastructure will be there) you can go for subsidy.

 

When a big industries coming up at all states and central govt. gives initial incentives (not only for Nano plant) for industry¡¦s initial teething period. May be in the tune of 100 to 2000 crore not for single year. It will be for period of about 10 years. That also depends on the reputation of the group. Since they give much more than the subsidy value by way of taxes. While other subsidy you are talking is from the tax payer¡¦s money only one has the right oppose it by way heavy misuse. Rs. 30000 crore subsidies were not given to Tata. This is the opposition propaganda giving such figure in news paper. The land allocate to them are at market rate only prevailing in the market at that time. It was zoomed up about 5 to 10 times after this deal and opposition after counting this zoomed land rate as also subsidy. They have given benefit by way of vat tax,  tax free power, stamp duty and may be some more parameters and this also spread for about 5/10 years. But, when plant will be started and run for long time, revenue generation is much larger.

 

8) Are India ready to make changes in the labor laws, or suspension of govt. employer for not showing his work efficiency or lethargic in his work? If no, then you have to sell or run with partnership of private party is the only solution to make it profitable. Else with the loss of govt companies, from where the resources will come for subsidies as you believe. In the reputed or professional private company have also job security if they work properly

 

9) My dear friend, Nationalism and Patriotic has same meaning practically. If you believes in democracy than forget China. However, than you should ready to adopt china model of development, where no labor unions is there, wage scale is low decided by govt. only. Ask your communist cadre and others to help by adopting such model without labor unions, job securities.

 

10) What Sardar Patel did after independence is every one knows and not required any proof for it. His and even Mr. Nehru patriotism was much higher than all of us and today not a single leader comes under their feet. But, question is that if Nehru heard and did as per Patel¡¦s and other fellow member guidance, I am sure India will be on the different path of prosperity today.

 

11) 60% of Kashmiri took part in democratic process it self is referendum. If you don¡¦t accept it it¡¦s your fault. I think so, according to you Kashmir should be liberated and this is solution in your eye. Than you have to divide Jammu and Kashmir as different state, since I am sure Jammu people remain with India only. To solve Kashmir problem is altogether different issue and require more time to discuss can be done at later stage.

 

12) I have just said Indira was great leader it does not mean her rule was good. Root of today¡¦s bad politics started from her rule only. Basu is great leader and he wanted to make reform in WB in his last decade rule, but your communist bosses did not allowed him. So, Buddhdev is suffering the same today.

 

13) Method of GDP calculation is not proper and govt. made it as per their requirement.

 

14) I discussed infrastructural point earlier not repeating. Today poverty is 25% bellow (however according to you it is much more) or say 30%, so for about 36/40 crore people we have to provide house. Do we have such huge fund? No. So, first create resources by way of development, which is only possible with basic infrastructure and than think for all this. By wasting money in the schemes, huge govt. employer salaries (we have much more govt. staff than the required) and unnecessary govt. expenses we can not prosper.

 

So, my dear friend, don¡¦t think much and be in present time, you will be happy in life. The person changes with time and learned from his past experience, so consider today¡¦s situation and assess things accordingly. There is no time and this my last mail to you.



thanks

Bipin



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rakesh Iyer 
  To: bipin 
  Cc: sarai-list 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Mallika Sarabhai's Public Meeting in JNU on 31stMarch


  Dear Bipin (and all)

  Unfortunately, I again have to put up a long mail on the points raised. Please bear with me for this, especially if you consider this spamming. 

  1) Advani's Rath Yatra: About this yatra, I mentioned it in particular because firstly, Advani is no great personality who did no wrongs. While you have been criticizing Mallika for being an upper class goon, the fact is that Advani also has done wrongs. Not for nothing is a case registered against him by the CBI for Babri Masjid Demolition case. Moreover, the Liberhan Commission is still investigating the case. And while you can claim that he is innocent until proven guilty, everybody knows what happened in the yatra. You can take a survey as well on this issue if you don't agree with me, and I would be happy to be proven wrong. 

  Mallika doesn't have any case registered against her to the best of my knowledge. If you know of some case, you can please bring it to our notice. As far as your knowledge of riots is concerned, when his Rath Yatra passed through Rajasthan, there were riots in places after his yatra passed. Moreover, even believing your point that it was his arrest that led to riots, why did those riots take place outside Bihar? In particular as a threat to show that nobody dare arrest Advani. And as for Lalu, if Advani is right in playing Hindu vote bank up by this yatra, what wrong has Lalu done by playing minority vote bank politics? 

  2) Babri Masjid demolition: Let's look at it this way. Suppose tomorrow the BJP says that the place where your house was constructed had a temple long back, which had been destroyed. Now, they want it to be rebuild again. Would you like to leave your house? 

  Secondly, while the Babri Masjid Action Committee may have had a part in communalizing the incident by refusing to hand over Babri Masjid, will we keep on fighting about our history all the time? Is hunger a bigger issue or Ram Mandir? And if the latter is a bigger issue, I challenge the entire Sangh Parivar to sit for a hunger strike till the Mandir is built.

  By the way you would be glad to know that the place which is today regarded as Ayodhya (holy place as Lord Ram was born there), is considered by historians to be very different from the Ayodhya as described in the Ramayana. Moreover, the time period when this mandir was supposedly destroyed, was also the period when one of the greatest bhakts of Lord Ram, namely Goswami Tulsidas also lived. Tulsidas has never mentioned any destruction of any mandir in that part of India to make a masjid, for he would have protested it. He could have mentioned it in his texts. Moreover, it has never been a part of any historical record either by Hindus or Muslims at that time in India. The first time it came into acknowledgement was under the British rule, somewhere in 1860's or 1870's. How do you know that a Mandir was there?

  As for nationalizing Muslims or making them patriotic, name one Muslim who is not patriotic or is not loyal to India. Enough of this rhetoric. I would challenge any Sarai member here to name one single Muslim of India, who is not loyal to this nation. 

  I have been hearing this crap for long. There is no evidence to prove this. Even in the past 5 years or 6 years, no case of terrorism involving Indian Muslims supposedly has been proven. Inspite of all this, many continue to say Indian Muslims are supporters of terrorists. So please tell me who are the Muslims you have seen who are anti-India or pro-terrorist? Name them. Don't be afraid of them. 

  3) It's an absolutely irrational statement to believe that any government policy formed by a govt in the beginning of its tenure, requires 2.5/3 years to be actually successful and show its' effects. The time lag after which any policy shows its' effects depends upon the policy and the conditions in which it is supposed to operate. A scheme like NREGA was successful in its very first year in both Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan, whereas for a thermal power plant to be constructed, the mininum time required for the fruition of such a scheme is about 5 years (I read this in a newspaper report, and you are free to challenge this. I would be happy), and in many cases, a party would required two terms at the centre or the provincial level to ensure that power projects initiated at the beginning of its first term start showing effects in the second term. 

  As for Gujarat. In 2002, POTA had not become a law. It was an ordinance known as POTO. And yet the Akshardam attack took place. Gujarat didn't have any law of POTA name after 2004 when the UPA govt at centre repealed it. Inspite of this, 4 years were taken for Gujarat to get attacked. All this time, Gujarat had no special law on terror. And yet it was not attacked. If without any anti-terror law, Gujarat was so safe that no terror attacks took place, then what is the requirement of such a law anyway? 

  My opposition to POTA stems from two factors. First of all, it's conviction rate as I have read it, is about 2-3%. This is even lower than TADA, the earlier anti-terror law. Secondly, it goes against basic tenets of human rights, and only innocents have been captured through this law. I would ask you again the same question as I had asked previously on this very forum: If I want to kill you at any cost and don't worry about my own death in the process, can POTA stop me from doing so? Or will police action in an effective manner stop it? Take your pick. 

  4) What is so wrong if something is done from the votes earning point of view? Is vote earning a kind of sin being committed by political parties? Any step being good or bad must be analyzed rationally, whether it be allowing a riot to take place or nationalization of banks. I don't know much about nationalization and wont' comment upon it. But I think politicians are concerned about winning votes, and if some good policy is introduced to get votes, there is nothing wrong in it. Examples are NREGA, RTI and Ladli Laxmi Yojana. 

  As for intelligence failure, I can agree with you. However, intelligence is not the future way to solve terrorism problem. It is through creation of a just and humane society that we can solve terrorism. 

  5) You have been talking about Medha Patkar. First of all, it would be better for you to learn the spelling and pronounce the name properly. I personally respect her, and so would be many here on this forum. At least respect our sensibilites if not your own. After all, I dont' go around abusing Lord Ram and disrespecting others. And I expect the same from you too. 

  Now getting out of sentimenality, since you claim Sardar Sarovar Dam project is very useful, I would like to get an answer regarding this fact I have heard and read. The dam was supposed to deliver water to the parched areas of Kutch. How many areas of Kutch has the water reached? Has it reached all the cities? How much area does it irrigate? 

  This is what I got from a report on this particular dam, and I can put up the entire report for the benefit of all, if they want. 

  ƒnReport shows only 15% of households in Kutch and Saurashtra getting water
  1)Sitting BJP MP under Modi says farmers not getting water or power in spite of
  Narmada Canal going through the district

  2) ƒnRenowned Ecologist says Narmada water in Rann (desert) wont work

  3) Modi government busy wasting water by ¡§inter-linking¡¨ Narmada with mythical
  river Saraswati; a ploy to create sheer emotional appeal

  4)Government leasing out land to industrialists in SSP Command

  5) ƒnLarge scale water-logging in the Sardar Sarovar command area this monsoon,
  including Jambusar

  6) Narmada main canal breaches again this year; lakhs of gallons of water floods
  nearby fields

  7) ƒnNarmada Main Canal becoming a watery grave for many desperate indebted
  families
  as per September 2005 data. May be you should also read things on other side of the story instead of believing Modi mania all the time. Even Modi can be wrong. 

  As for the power production, the less said the better. The Gujarat government has been giving different heights for the generation of power in the last 17 years, and how much power production is taking place now?

  For further info, read this:

  http://www.narmada.org/sardar-sarovar/faq/whopays.html

  http://www.narmada.org/sardar-sarovar/irnoverview940525.html

  By the way, the project was protested so vehemently that the very World Bank, which you claim praised the project, had stopped lending money for the project (after 92 if I am not wrong). How is that for this great project?

  And so many people can't be wrong, even if Medha Patkar is wrong. 

  Better find statistics showing the increase in agricultural production, increase in electricity production, increase in land area irrigated and other relevant data due to this particular project (not total Gujarat data please). 

  6) As far as this figure is concerned. Let me just clarify something here. This figure had been obtained from a Jean Dreze article. However, I couldn't find that article here. Luckily, what I did get is this article on web, which proves my point. The link is:

  http://www.indiatogether.org/2006/mar/ddz-povline.htm

  What this says is that the poverty line was Rs. 540 (urban)as per 2004 statistics. And this only included food expenses (not shelter or clothing or other possible emergency expenses on health). This is below Rs. 600. The article I read said that due to inflation, this data had changed from Rs. 540 to Rs. 600 as per 2007-08 statistics, which I will confirm. 

  And Bipin jee, I don't think you have seen Lord Ram or Lord Krishna in your life. (not in dreams, and not Arun Govil). At least I haven't seen them. Many have not seen them as well. Then why do they believe these lords exist? 

  Reality can exist even if I or you haven't seen it, provided others have. These statistics prove that 26% population is still below poverty line as per these statistics

  The point I feel I have put up which could be wrong is that 72% population is below this figure, as I can't find that article by Dreze which said that if the urban poverty line is taken as the poverty line even in rural areas, particularly as Dreze saw that the amount per day was too low in rural areas to lead a proper life. By the way, if you doubt Dreze, then better read about who he is and what he does before commenting. 

  7) By mentioning licence raj, I haven't supported it. Better come back to reality than imagining things which I never said. I only said it was the removal of licence raj which saw growth for India. I am not against growth, but I want that growth to be equitable as well, to which the UPA govt has tried to achieve this, and the BJP seems to try to do the same. But people like you think these subsidies are a waste of public money. Go and find out the amount given directly and indirectly as subsidy by Gujarat govt to Tatas or Indian govt to all large scale industries and big players. The food subsidy is very small compared to that. 

  8) Just because government companies don't work does not mean you sell them. You ensure strict implementation of rules and also introduce incentives for people to work, rather than selling them off to private companies. And any selling should be judged by rationally, not by you and me, but by professionals and economic specialists as well as people who can keep the overall objective of safeguarding national interests in mind. As for the PPP model or private ownership model, now that the economy is in a recession, the companies are not able to develop their own property or production capability, then only the govt. is left to do any economic activity. What should the govt do then? Not do anything and let people wither away?

  The govt has realized its responsibility of providing equitable growth to all through schemes like NREGA, and any day I would support such subsidy instead of giving 30,000 crores subsidy to Tatas in Gujarat by Modi and his dispensation. 

  9) I don't want any nationalism. It is crap. I want citizens to be patriotic. There is no need to be nationalistic. For all those who want to be nationalistic, let me remind them that the Nationalist Government in China was overthrown by the Communists after a decade of rule in 1947-49. And nationalism hasn't worked for BJP in getting a majority on its own in Indian Parliament. They had to adjust themselves with regional sub-nationalisms and collabarate with state based regional parties. 

  10) I agree terror blasts can't take place without local support. What is the proof that this support is given by Muslims? As for Patel's statement, I have read statements not exactly reading this, but meaning the same, in a couple of books. The one I remember now is Ramchandra Guha's 'India after Gandhi', and probably it has an incident where Patel tells someone to be careful about Muslims and to get information about Muslim policemen or something. Please check that out. 

  11) 'Peace loving Hinduism' is already seen by me in Babri Masjid demolition and Gujarat riots. Now I dont' want to see any more 'peace-loving Hindus'. It's better to see silent Hindus than these great Hindus who want to wipe out the very ideals of our nation on which it is based, by raping and molesting women, and by killing old men and children who could never harm Hindu religion (just because they were Muslims/Christians). I am ashamed to call such people as belonging to my religion. Akbar was more a Hindu than these genocide creators. 

  And such Hindus would have created Hindu Pakistan long back if Nehru was not there. Nehru made many mistakes, but he ensured proper rule of democracy in India and also gave other achievements like proper establishments of institutions in India like Election Commission, Planning Commission and others. It was his daughter who ruined India more than them. 

  As for Kashmir, why do you worry about referendum? If you are very sure Kashmiris want to be a part of India, let us have a referendum and get it proven. It will put our doubts to end for once and for all. 

  12)  If Indira can be a great leader by ruling for 17 years, then I think Jyoti Basu and Fidel Castro would be far greater leaders in your mind (both Communists) as they ruled their respective state and country (Cuba) for 25 and (50+) years respectively. And I don't rate rulers as great based on that. 

  She ruined India by emergency and her actions like Bhindranwale's creation which ruined Punjab and India as such. It was what led to her death as well. As for your vote bank politics, could you name the vote bank for which Indira Gandhi did so? We all would be very happy if you could do so. And please, do justify how does this vote bank get satisfied if POK is not taken from Pakistan.

  13) Better be concerned with Gini inequality ratio (used by World Bank) and GDP per capita to look at inequality as well instead of looking only at GDP in totality. Today India is more unequal than it was in 1991. And this is wrong. 

  14) As far as your infrastructural development is concerned, it only helps the rich and not the poor. The poor want education, health, sanitation facilities, food, clothing and shelter. This is also infrastructure, but is unfortunately missing from your understanding of infrastructure. Mind you, they need these at low cost, not at the costs at which today middle class people buy their homes. And they need these from the govt. Neither you nor me, nor any real estate buyer or some private company is going to get these for them. 

  And for implementation, you are right. One should criticize the govt if it is found lacking in implementation, but then the govt should provide it. Privatization is not the solution for it involves high costs, which these poor people can't pay. 

  By the way, Raman Singh has won in Chhatisgarh on a macro level because it is believed his schemes of rice at Rs 3/- per kg was implemented very properly and efficiently. This is claimed even by NGO' s supposedly loyal to Congress. Very useful scheme for tribal people, as BJP won in tribal seats. 

  Ab final baat hindi mein Bipin jee (because English is my brain language, Hindi is my heart language). Dekhiye jee. aap issues badi superficially dekh rahe hain. mai kahoonga aapse issues ki gehrai mein jaayein aur unhein dekhein. aap gujarat mein hain. bajay yeh kehne ke ki modi ne elections jeete ya woh development laaya, figures dekhiye aur constituency level par analyze kijiye what clicked and what not. chahiye to surveys kijiye aur unke results bataiye. i would be very happy. is tarah se macro based statements dene se kisi ka koi bhala nahi hoga. 

  aur kripa karke muslims ke liye bani sachar commitee ka report zaroor padhiye. aapko pata chalega woh kitne poor hain. aur phir aap khud sochenge unhein itni gaali kyun dete hain log. aap hi khud achambhe mein rahenge

  Regards

  Rakesh