[Reader-list] Communists ask for forgiveness for acts committed in past

[anupam chakravartty]

Dear Pawan,

I will be learning about emailing ethics for sure. you see its something new
to me.

But looks like you've been quite a turncoat (if you what that means). you
started with SFI, moved to indira gandhi, then national conf, now Panun
Kashmir. how long do you plan to stick around with hindutva...trust me its
in fashion now. ideological/political trends in this country last for five
years.

anyway...i dont intend to hurt your faith or idealogical inclinations. it is
a request that you should be real about your allegations. Like i dont trust
the commies, i have the same feeling for saffron. one rejects my faith, the
other puts a question mark on it by suppressing the true nature of it. my
faith is personal. it cannot assume a fanatical form like how various
saffron groups. it will contradict what upanishads or the gita says.
political form of hinduism is a contradiction to its very foundation. there
are several persons off all political hues who would agree to this very
nature of my faith. now its upto you how you want to manufacture opinion
around it.

regards
anupam

On 4/6/09, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Anupam ,
>
> I suggest you learn E-mailing before you blame gmail. I do not like a
> personal interaction going public irrespective of whether I am
> involved or not. Ethics come with responsibility and that is a word
> for you to understand.
>
> Being critical of 'sickular' also does not make  me a BJP cadre. I
> don't mind turning immature to teach some immatures.
>
> As for me , i would join the party i like some day when i feel . Till
> now I am not a member of any.
>
> I was an activist of SFI many years back in Kashmir , voted for
> National Conference when i was very young, Indira Gandhi ji was like
> revered like a mother , and I am a supporter of Panun Kashmir cause
> and not its member.
>
> I do not wish to join politics for making 'loads of money' ....the day
> I wish .....i would have a red flag in my hand and a false commitment
> to labor class and a photo of non Indian on the wall behind the place
> i sit.
>
> Pawan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:45 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > dear pawan, gmail actually offers a direct reply...so unknowingly i might
> > have sent you the first mail. from the beginning itself i intended to
> make
> > this conversation public...so the question of ethics doesnt arise
> here..if
> > it has hurt you, i would blame it on the gmail.
> >
> > being critical of BJP's policy doesnt make me a red flag. looks like you
> > are really immature in political debates. why dont you give and do some
> > party work? its gainful employment..you can make loads of money.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/6/09, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Anupam ji ,
> >>
> >> You are as unethical as any red flag bearer is.
> >>
> >> You preferred to have an offline conversation with me and suddenly you
> >> send the whole exchange to a discussion forum.
> >>
> >> Is this the ethics being taught by your senior comrades ? I pity you
> >> for not having learnt basic etiquette.
> >>
> >> Your motives and conduct stink.....
> >>
> >> Pawan
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:07 PM, anupam chakravartty <
> c.anupam at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > precisely, this is what you think...now why would BJP call the killing
> of
> >> > muslims an unfortunate incident is what im surprised about? BJP
> actually
> >> > planned it...n thanks for telling me...if they have the guts demolish
> an
> >> > archealogical site, terrorising innocent people is their second
> nature.
> >> >
> >> > On 4/6/09, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes , 100 crore Indian would fund it.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:46 AM, anupam chakravartty <
> >> c.anupam at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > who? atal behari vajpeyee..he is not even there. instead we have
> more,
> >> >> shall
> >> >> > i say a "purified" version? of modi...mr varun gandhi. since u seem
> to
> >> be
> >> >> an
> >> >> > insider in the BJP, why not tell us who is funding the Ram Temple?
> >> will
> >> >> it
> >> >> > be publicly funded...
> >> >> > On 4/6/09, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Anupam Ji ,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Probably you read only those news item which carry the red flag .
> Has
> >> >> >> not the BJP also termed Gujarat incident as unfortunate.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Pawan
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM, anupam chakravartty <
> >> >> c.anupam at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > at least they acknowledge their acts unlike maya kodnani and the
> >> >> saffron
> >> >> >> > bandwagon who killed so many in gujarat. although its an
> >> interesting
> >> >> >> piece
> >> >> >> > of news.
> >> >> >> > anupam
> >> >> >> > On 4/5/09, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/cpimdefensive-seeks-forgiveness/354025/
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Party cadres told to go to people and seek forgiveness for
> their
> >> acts
> >> >> >> >> committed in the past.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The CPI(M) in West Bengal has finally decided to do something
> >> which
> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> had not done in the last three decades: seek people’s
> forgiveness.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Biman Bose, the state secretary of the ruling party, has
> >> repeatedly
> >> >> >> >> asked his party cadres to go to people and seek forgiveness for
> >> their
> >> >> >> >> acts committed in the past. Earlier, Bose had gone to public
> while
> >> >> >> >> addressing an election meeting in Purulia, saying that “some of
> >> our
> >> >> >> >> leaders have become arrogant”. Though he did not identify any
> of
> >> >> those
> >> >> >> >> “arrogant” leaders, he later pursued the issue in the CPI(M)
> state
> >> >> >> >> secretariat and Left Front meetings. He also admitted in public
> >> that
> >> >> >> >> he had advised the party cadres to tender an apology to the
> people
> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> their past arrogance.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Following the CPI(M), the Forward Bloc (FB), another Left Front
> >> >> >> >> partner, has also taken the same approach. Yesterday, at a
> meeting
> >> of
> >> >> >> >> the party’s trade union wing TUCC, FB state secretary Ashok
> Ghosh
> >> >> >> >> urged the cadres not to show arrogance in their behaviour
> towards
> >> >> >> >> people and also to seek forgiveness for their past acts, if
> any.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> In other words, this is an admission from the top leaders that
> >> three
> >> >> >> >> decades of uninterrupted power has created a class of arrogant
> >> >> leaders
> >> >> >> >> and cadres which in turn is pushing the people away from the
> Left.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Gurudas Dasgupta, the CPI MP from Bengal who is now busy
> fighting
> >> >> >> >> another electoral battle from Ghatal (after the delimitation
> >> process,
> >> >> >> >> the old Panskura constituency has been renamed as Ghatal),
> feels
> >> this
> >> >> >> >> is good tactical move. “It is a defensive game, where defence
> is
> >> the
> >> >> >> >> best offence,” he says.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> But the Opposition detects a streak of nervousness in these
> >> campaign
> >> >> >> >> tactics. Congress leader Manas Bhuian is convinced that the
> >> “CPI(M)
> >> >> >> >> now is nervous. It could read the writing on the wall and that
> >> forced
> >> >> >> >> it to change the tactic. But power has gone to their head. They
> >> are
> >> >> >> >> giddy with success and for that they can’t change their
> attitude
> >> >> >> >> overnight”.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Sudip Banerjee, the TMC candidate from North Kolkata, feels:
> “The
> >> >> >> >> CPI(M) is now really on the defensive. But no matter how much
> it
> >> >> tries
> >> >> >> >> to extricate itself from this position, it won’t succeed. It is
> >> too
> >> >> >> >> little and too late.”
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> But a section of CPI(M) leaders, who are close to Biman Bose,
> >> believe
> >> >> >> >> that this move might put a stop to the erosion of support in
> the
> >> >> rural
> >> >> >> >> areas where in the recent past the Left suffered a series of
> >> >> electoral
> >> >> >> >> setbacks.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Last year, after having a major debacle in the panchayat
> >> elections,
> >> >> >> >> the party tried to find out the causes of the setback. The
> review
> >> >> >> >> brought out the seamy side of the party organisation at the
> >> >> grassroots
> >> >> >> >> level, where leaders have amassed huge power in their hands and
> >> >> turned
> >> >> >> >> into tyrants themselves. For the party, it was a revelation,
> but
> >> the
> >> >> >> >> people knew it already through their day to day experiences.
> >> >> >> >> Incidentally, along that line, a move to sideline some of those
> >> >> >> >> leaders in the election was also mooted by the leadership but
> >> finally
> >> >> >> >> discarded after considering it too hasty while finalising the
> >> >> >> >> candidates’ list.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> According to insiders, by asking the party cadres to be more
> >> humble
> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> their approach to the people, Biman Bose also wants to send a
> >> signal
> >> >> >> >> to those party satraps to fall in line.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> It is to be watched if the measures taken at the higher level
> can
> >> >> >> >> discipline the party organisation, but truly it is a climb-down
> >> from
> >> >> >> >> the position they earlier used to enjoy in the state.
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