[Reader-list] The True Face of Ulemas and Maolvis

[Vivek Narayanan]

Javed and Kshemendra,

Both of you have reacted to this note in a way that I didn't expect--but 
I guess that's what makes this list compelling.

I personally didn't need answers to all those questions to begin 
enjoying-- and even believing-- the stories posted here.

Moreover, I don't see them as absolute proof of anything, let alone the 
"despotism of Islam" or of all "Muslim mullahs".  I don't think these 
stories were narrated to malign Islam.  To start with, they simply 
reflect the typical behaviour of powerful and influential people 
everywhere.  Beyond this, they seem to suggest that many religious 
leaders are more interested in secular power than religious observance, 
and that the little man--reflected in this case by the narrator's older 
relative--tends to be the one who is truly pious, sometimes naively so, 
even to a fault, and practises what he preaches.  Sajid Naqwi in the 
second story makes regular use of prostitutes not only because he is 
horny but also because he knows he is above the law.

In the past decades there have been similar tales of power hungry 
evangelist Christian preachers (in America) caught, similarly, with 
their pants down.  We know, informally, that such behaviour can 
certainly be found among the Hindutva brigade-- for whom piety is often 
the lowest priority-- I wouldn't mind any first hand stories, if anyone 
has them and is bold enough.

Whether narrated on the reader list or made even richer with detailed 
rhythmic salvos of expletives, just outside the shrine, such tales make 
us doubt the words and practice of those who would rule and regulate our 
lives.  In my book, the encouragement of doubt is a good thing.

Of course, I'd love to know more about the context for this posting; 
however, given the evidently sensitive nature of the subject, that's a 
lot to ask. 

At any rate, even as stories, they remind me of the questing, fearless, 
sometimes naughty  and sometimes melancholy spirit of Manto, who finds a 
mention here.

Vivek

M Javed wrote:
> Dear Mard-e Mujahid
> Before one can believe or even start enjoying the stories you have
> posted in this message, one would ask the following:
>
> - what is the source of this message? Who is Anonymous? Is it you? How
> can we believe what anonymous says?
> - who are you? What is your motive of posting this message here?
> - why post it on Sarai-list? What are you expecting?
>
> I am not claiming that moulvis and ulemas are above all this kind of
> sins and never indulge in all the debauchery you have explained, but
> why bring this topic on Sarai? One usually hears such kind of stories
> as rumours at chai-shops, bus stands, mohalla-corners or outside
> mosques among people who would include 10-abusive words in each
> sentence and then run up to the nearest brothel themselves. But when
> you post such a message on Sarai-list, it would be produced as the
> ultimate proof of the despotism of Islam and Muslim mullahs.
>
> Kindly provide answers to the above questions and provide a proper
> source for this mail before one can take it seriously.
>
> Thanks
>
> Javed
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Mujahid Haq <mardemujahid46 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   
>> The True Face of Ulemas and Maolvis:
>>
>>           Today, i am writing on very sensitive topic based on practical experience. i don't know from where to start this topics & whether it is safe to discuss here about a topic which may prove to be a very contraversing topic for readers, especially for my Muslim brothers who are reluctant to any reality which is in opposite direction to their belief. First of all i would like to say i'm a punjabi/urdu speaking person and English is not my mother tongue so kindly ignore my spelling or grammar or idiomatic mistakes. Now let me come to the topic.
>>           We people follow our religious leaders blindly without exploring their characters and morals. [by religious leaders i didn't mean the pious saints and prophets]. I have a relative who is much older than me but we are like friends because of similarity in our thinking. He was a very pious person and was a fan of Sadat Hasan Manto, a bold and dauntless writer of India-Pakistan. He read Manto critically and what he wrote in his works he decided to judge it's reality in his present situation. He was infect doing research on prostitutes and what force them to do such a vulgar job. Once he told me that once upon a time he went with his friend (I) to Qari Sakhi Muhammad Sealwi, a famous religious scholar of Punjab, Pakistan. [Literary, 'Qari' means one who recites
>> Quran]
>>
>> Their 'I' introduced him with Qari. After a brief introduction from both sides their 'ceremony' started and a 'twayef' (prostitute dancer) entered in the room and Qari stand up from the sofa and hug the lady and they both start dancing.[don't think they already know each other both were strangers for each other; infect she was booked for few hours for Qari and his guests]. He was shocked to see a molvi dancing and kissing and hugging a lady. Qari invited his quests to accompany him on which 'I' joined him but he remained seated but keep laughing since it was his first experience to see a molvi dancing……. This is incident of 1990's. One more thing which I would like to say that Qari was a property dealer in religion's cloak. He formed several madrasas (schools) in different locations of Punjab and especially in Lahore. Most of his madrasas are for female students and were upto 10th grade. Where only girls from poor families study. All beautifully
>>  girls of his schools were 'enjoyed' by him and his ally. He also used to supply girls to local bodies/ badmaash and political people.  that Qari died in 2008 and is now revered here as a 'holy man'.
>>            I have my several cousins in European countires. One of my cousins is in Germany. On his arrival to lahore he told me that while he was in a bar dancing with his girl friend he saw Maulana Fazul-al- Rehman, a religious and political leader of Paksitan, dancing in the club in full 'masti'. He was very surprised to see him but I was much surprised when I heared that.
>>            I know a trust worthy person 'X' who went to Saudia Arab with his colony-fellows for earning in 1985's. Their they were employed in an a construction firm located in Mecca. The 2 men from them were 'pakay zaani' (playboys). After spending few days in Mecca they started searching for a brothel. One day, they reached a brothel, located in a VIP's colony in a palace-like double story house, with a third person (which was older-settled in Saudia than the two). When they reached their, they saw a palace in the neighbor of that brothel. Out side the palace policemen and guards were on duty and to see them those 'two' start trembling while the third remained cool. They were further shocked when they read on the name plate of palace that it belong to Imam-e-Kaaba, the most respected and 'pious' personality of Muslim world. They decided to return since they thought the third person is fooling with them. The third one compel them to enter the
>>  brothel and say don't afraid go inside their every thing will be ok etc etc. but they didn't agree. Then the third one called (awaz lagana) in the brothel and a lady (nayeka, manager of that brothel) appeared in the teris/ balcony. The third one said to him your guest are afraid of your neighbour and have give-up the idea to stay here…. Then they both start laughing while that two remain still like idols. Then that lady welcomed her guests warmly and succeeded in overcoming their fear. At last they entered. On reaching inside the lady and third person start laughing to their will. The lady told them, don't afraid of that police since it was for your protection (then she laugh) and neither afraid of Imam(-e-Kaba) since he is over foremost 'gahak' (one who went to shop). When ever I had 'naya maal' (i.e., new girls) he is first to enjoy them……." The 'two' were so shocked that they can't utter a single world. Then they were provided by the lady a
>>  little refreshment and then their 'work' start…….
>> Here I remember poet Iqbal's verse:
>> Dayhati ho k shehri ho Musalman hai saada
>> Manind-e-butaan pujtay hain Kabay k Brehman
>>   [whether a Muslim is of city or village he is simple(i.e., Easy to be deceived). They worship the "Brahmins of Kaba" like idols (without looking at their characters etc)]
>>                The same 'X' went to Pakistan after ending his job in Saudia started investing his money in various works. At one time he bought few rickshaws (3 wheel vehicle used as taxi) and appointed drivers. The drivers took up his rickshaws in early morning and roam in the city in search for passengers and return the home in night where they give their  earning to the owner 'X' from which he gave them their payment. This was their daily routine. One of these (let 'R') drivers' earning was always greater than the others and he was always last one to come; sometime he came in midnight. The 'X' keeps an eye on his rickshaws, as other owners do, that whether his drivers are doing the job honestly or not. Once he was sitting at a chok (round about) with other owners counting the 'phairas' (routes) of his rickshaws.. He saw his rickshaw ( 'R') stopped  near a big black luxury car/cruiser. From the rickshaw a well-dressed girl appears and
>>  entered in the car. When the car passed near the chok he looked inside; it was being drived by Allama Sajid Nakwi, a religious scholar of Shia'muslims and a leader of a religious party. He was little bit confused and think it might happen that he couldn't see the person rightly and that person resembles with Sajid but not the Sajid himself. In evening, when all rickshaws came he enquired 'R' about that incident. He said if he is not wrong than that person in car was Sajid Nakwi? Driver was surprised and replied 'yes'. He admitted that without any hesitation and reluctance because 'X'  has very brotherly attitude with drivers. Then he opened the whole story. He told he is supplying 'butterflies' (i.e., girls) to Ulemas and local bodies which include Sajid Nakwi, Tahir-ul-Qadri, Qari Sakhi Mohammad, Al-Haaj Sheikh Rohil Asghar etc. for which he got very sufficient earning. He said he earn much large money than he provide to him in the end of day. Then he
>>  offered him to be a part of his net work which he refused. The story has a disastrous effect on 'X'. He asked 'R' "tu kisi din mujay phanswaye ga"(you will create a problem for me in future). On which 'R' replied, "aap to pehlay hi phansay huay hain..kabhi thanay main ja kar is rikshay ki report to daikhain, isay darjanoon dafa police nay pakrra hai magar isko churranay walay be 'wohi' hain" (you are already in problem. Your this rickshaw is caught several time by police of different stations but always 'they' themselves saved it etc).
>> Next day he went to local police station and show his rickshaw's number their and inquire about it. The police man revealed that we several time caught this rikshaw of this number for illegal works but whenever we took it to our station the very movement we are rang up by 'respected personalities''s calls so we had to leave it without further investigation etc. This confirmed 'R''s story.
>> Latter, 'X' sold his all rickshaws and free all drivers and start investing in properties.
>> Few days latter while he was in his home some one knocked at his door. He opened the door and was surprised to see Sajid Nakwi standing their. This shocked him very much. They shake hands and Sajid took him to his car. In his car he saw  Tahir-ul-Qadri, the religious scholar of Sunni'muslims and now know as Sheikh-ul-Islam[the greatest leader of muslims]. Sajid was informed by 'R' that 'X' is well known of their 'work'. So he came to pressurize him that if he disclosed anything he will create 'problem' for himself and his family. Sajid start discussion in friendly environment and ended in harsh words. When he ended, Tahir said, "Sahih tarhaan samja dea hai na?"(did you convince him rightly) and he replied "bilkul"(surley).and then they depart.
>> Here I'll quote a verse of Bulleh Shah
>> "Bahroon saaf hoyoon ke hunda jay diloon na gaye palitee”
>>  (physically you appear clean and from inside you are dirty)
>> I have these stories in my hearts from several years. One day I've to die and I don't want to take these 'heavy stones' with me so I decided to disclose it to you so that you could see we can't judge a personality from his physical look or worldly reputation since those who look physically pious are much vulgar than a prostitute!
>>
>> Anonymous
>>
>>
>>
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