[Reader-list] Fwd: Ayodhya, a simple matter of adjudication and courts and judiciary has failed the nation.

Tue Apr 14 15:37:17 IST 2009

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From: Rajen Uppinangadi <rajen882uppinangadi at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Ayodhya, a simple matter of adjudication and
courts and judiciary has failed the nation.
To: Rajen Uppinangadi <rajen882uppinangadi at gmail.com>

By the way, why bring in a region and a malayali about the idols in the
disputed site of Ayodhya, can you not see him as a culprit who acted on
behalf of psuedo secular agenda of the rulers in democratic India at that
time.?

 Would you see Com. Pinarayi Vijayan as corrupt malayali or a corrupt
comrade who has to get in to the wheels of just implementation of rue of
laws just as any deviant BJP or Congress leaders who flout rule of laws. The
issue here is rule of laws have always been bent to accommodate the
powerful, which is unacceptable in democratic governance.

Regards.
Rajen.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Rajen Uppinangadi <
rajen882uppinangadi at gmail.com> wrote:

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> From: Rajen Uppinangadi <rajen882uppinangadi at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Ayodhya, a simple matter of adjudication and
> courts and judiciary has failed the nation.
> To: Venugopalan K M <kmvenuannur at gmail.com>
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> Hi,
>       Venu,
>
>  the suggestion as to what Hitler did and the subsequent surmise that
> hindus are doing exactly that is the venom spread by leftist idiots have
> been spreading for too long, saying that RSS and BJP is fascist, if you feel
> that it is spade, it is your choice and freedom of expression, as to
> fascism, it is seen by me in close quarers in left trade unions by me in the
> way in which the movement is managed by left parties only to be rejected by
> workers as they see leaders living parasytical life on the subscription of
> the poor workers.
>   As far as I am concerned humans have human fault lines, and the least
> faults in public life is expected of those who are in governance, be it
> political leaders, babudom or media and judiciary, if they also indulge in
> corruption, nepotism and that too without ethics and morals, governance will
> not be that without discrimination. With choice limited to murder convicts,
> dacoits , robbers and pick-pockets the choive for the voter is to see that
> those elected will not be the most heinous.?
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> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Venugopalan K M <kmvenuannur at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> plz read the word "raided" in my earlier post as "raised"-sorry for the
>> typo
>> Venu..
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>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Venugopalan K M <kmvenuannur at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>> Thanks for your support to the idea of uniting the nation.
>>> However, I can't help reminding you that Hitler also wanted to "unite" by
>>> ridding of who didn't want to agree with his idea of unity.If you are an
>>> expert on this issue, please answer to the other ponts raided by me there.
>>> I have no dispute to your point that there might earlier have been
>>> dispute as well relating to the ownership of the land on which the masjid
>>> stood..but it doesn't invalidate my account of what happened since
>>> 1948,unless you specifically bring some contention. I only told that the
>>> masjis was having namaz till a few days consequent to the incident in which
>>> three idols were smuggled into the masjid by some anti-social elements and
>>> propagated the lie that these were "swayam bhu."
>>> And last but not least: -
>>> Where was "venom" in my post..whatever it is, I will tell you that I
>>> would rather, call a spade a spade, if you'd like it or not.
>>> Regards,
>>> Venu.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Rajen Uppinangadi <
>>> rajen882uppinangadi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Venu,
>>>>
>>>>  so much of venom and poisonous outburst are not good for anyones
>>>> health.Your hate is just plain and visible in the post.
>>>>
>>>>   In case your update is not helping you, the land dispute is much
>>>> earlier than 1948, it all started in 1873 for your information between two
>>>> cousins of the maharaja of that area, later, some others joned it, much
>>>> later muslim law board, all India Babri masjid committee etc were impleading
>>>> for joining in the suit matter.
>>>>
>>>>   As far as Advani is concerned, it was vote gathering tool for him,
>>>> this issue, same as the gate unlocking by Rajiv Pheroz Khan, who used this
>>>> to appease sections of hindus.! It s no different with left and its goon
>>>> cadres who happily rape and kill people in any area where they are in groups
>>>> to take over the property of the tiller, so stop playing games of holier
>>>> than thou type of posts.
>>>>
>>>>   Democratic governance of the nation is rule of laws without
>>>> discrimination and all political parties have failed miserably in this
>>>> aspect, only redeeming factor is BJP is trying to unite the hindu community
>>>> above the caste conundrums, you like it or not, while Congress divided the
>>>> sections of the society on castes, faith and regional dividers.
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Rajen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Venugopalan K M <
>>>> kmvenuannur at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What dispute? Who told you that Babrai Masjid belonged to Mr.Advani
>>>>> &Co?
>>>>> Who's he to be the (criminal )demolisher of the masid and the builder
>>>>> of ram temp le in the name of "all hindus" of India?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who told you that you and me should have any real stakes in  the
>>>>> destruction of that humble masjid(which had to stop namaz owing to the
>>>>> handiwork of few communalists and certain secularists like Nehru, who just
>>>>> wanted to stop trouble)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, a Malayali Nair( K.K.Nair) who had been the dist magistratre
>>>>> of Faizabad in 1948 and a sympathizer of the anti-national RSS and killers
>>>>> of M.K.Gandhi is believed to have conspired to smuggle idols of Ram,Seetha
>>>>> and Hanuman in the dead of a december night..precisely on Dec 22-23,though I
>>>>> have to check the exact date, and later claiming these idols as "swayam
>>>>> bhu"(originated divinely and without human agency)!
>>>>>
>>>>> Granted that you and me have the freedom to believe any trash as
>>>>> history. But authentic historical studies have shown that nowhere in
>>>>> Ayodhya, Ram Temples were existing even in the times of Thulasidas(16th
>>>>> century) who wrote Ramcharitmanas!
>>>>>
>>>>> Go with more and more of trash..plz don't try to impose on others in
>>>>> your service (though it is welcome, because it exposes rather than conceals
>>>>> your commitment to the politics of hatred)to the hidutwa bigots!
>>>>>
>>>>> Let  the sense of refinement prevail on you  thanks to your being a
>>>>> member of this discussion forum and to your willingness to communicate to
>>>>> instantly whatever you "think"!
>>>>> btw, thanks for providing the  exact information on the
>>>>> measurement of the land which is pending to be handed over to
>>>>> ---------, because of "spineless judges" sitting there.
>>>>> Certainly it is not you or me who are the holders of stake,I think..
>>>>> Nor is it the entire hindus of India...
>>>>> Who could it be then you are so passionately and so blindly taking
>>>>> wakalat for?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>> Venu.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Rajen Uppinangadi <
>>>>> rajen882uppinangadi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The issue is simply the matter of adjudication of issue of ownership
>>>>>> of land
>>>>>> of admeasuring 42 feet by 65 feet, by the court of India, judges have
>>>>>> fudged
>>>>>> for decades as spineless individuals waiting for their promotion and
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> this an emotive issue by the plitical parties for the vote banks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As to Advani and his rath yathra, it should be noted that rath yathra
>>>>>> did
>>>>>> not start the communal riots, but stoppage of Rathyathra by lalu yadav
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> vote gains of community in his winning combination of MY equation
>>>>>> started
>>>>>> the riots, the system of governance did nothing to punish those
>>>>>> indulgig in
>>>>>> riots but rewarded them with MLA and MP tickets, thus criminalisation
>>>>>> became
>>>>>> history of indian politics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What should have been disposed off as simple property suit, of a
>>>>>> scheduled
>>>>>> property, of a dilapidated structure, became masjid without prayers,
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> become birth point of Lord rama, as if all were the midwifes at the
>>>>>> time.?
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