[Reader-list] UK National ID card cloned in 12 minutes

[Murali V]

Who knows how many of our politicians have cuts from the fake currencies.

Who knows how many of our politicians have cuts from the illegal immigration
and infesting the country.

Who knows how many of our politicians have cuts from the the preacher /
dollar missions for the conversions.

Regards,
V Murali
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <
rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:

> *Dear all,**       *
> *
> *
> *     "CRIME IS ALWAYS ONE STEP AHEAD OF PREVENTION"*
>  does this mean that we should not have any tools to prevent crime.?
>
>  Does this mean we should not have rule of laws to deal with the
> criminals.?
>
>     If a neighboring nation can print high quality currency notes and use
> it for terror, to de-stabilize the economy of its neighbor, should we take
> note of it and see that our currency is better and methods of fake currency
> identification made easier to all citizens.?
>    Or to that matter our own citizens , many of them are easily lured with
> wealth, become easy sleeper cells of terror for wealth gains, for a faith
> to
> prove that they are "devout" to their faith  more than the society of the
> nation, be monitored and "freedom" to infest the nation with terror should
> be given human "rights" to terrorise the innocents and be happy that we are
> honouring the "rights " of inhuman  individuals who indulge in such
> anti-societal acts which are both illegal, immoral to the society and
> nation.?
>
>   It is well known that from these nations , our daughters get "grooms" to
> marry, then the groom settles down here in the nation, starts to earn with
> "business" many a times, illegal, like trafficker of arms, many a times be
> a
> sleeper cell for the logistic support for the trans-border fanatic.Many
> from
> these neighbor nations come to this nation, for studies , Karnataka has too
> many of them, but never return back, like many of Indians who go abroad,
> prefer to stay in that nation with green card or citizenship of that
> nation.
>
>  But, do we have in this nation, a system that works to identify a preacher
> who settles down to do good to tribal s by converting them?  .Do we have
> data of students and grooms who never return to their nations after
> marriage
> or studies.?In any other nation, they have immigration checks, do we have
> any.?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rajen.
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Taha Mehmood
> <2tahamehmood at googlemail.com>wrote:
>
> > Dear Anivar,
> >
> > Thank you for posting this story regarding cloning of a so called
> > impregnable technology. I am sure this post or news items like this
> > one, are going to polarize people who are following the Indian ID card
> > story.
> >
> > Here are some scenarios-
> >
> > There are those who may look at this story and think that simply
> > because someone was able to copy UK national ID card within minutes,
> > does not necessarily mean that samples of all the cards in the entire
> > world could be copied within minutes. They may also feel that GOI must
> > have taken all these things into consideration that is why they have
> > entrusted the responsibility of ID project to Nandan Nilekani. One can
> > expect arguments emanating from this section to come maybe in -denial
> > mode-
> >
> > Then there are those who are going to look at this story and express a
> > range of emotions from shock to concern, to deep concern, to paranoia,
> > to phobia, to maybe even panic tending towards mass-hysteria. People
> > ascribing to this view may present their thoughts laced with arguments
> > related to identity theft, loss of privacy, invasion of privacy,
> > private sector taking over the world, or even world becoming anarchic.
> > So one could expect the tone of arguments coming from this lot, to be
> > either deeply cautionary or celebratory.
> >
> > A few of us, would be actually wanting to meet the person who did
> > this. They may be interested in learning from Laurie, how he achieved
> > this feat. This knowledge transfer might have two broad implications,
> > either that knowledge may go to the government sector, to be used for
> > more stringent coding or consolidation of technological/software locks
> > or to the piracy sector to create, build, archive and ultimately share
> > knowledge of cracking this technology and then harvesting data and
> > subsequently selling it to smaller private buyers who may not have
> > deep pockets to legitimately buy it, over the counter, but
> > nevertheless share a desire to own and deploy such data or trade such
> > data with other members of the corporate tribe. And as is evidenced by
> > a recent submission of a minister in our parliament, we know now, how
> > truthful and deeply honest,  the captains of our industries are.
> >
> > Then there will be the policy crowd, who are of course, going to
> > downplay this story. They might even suggest that people like Laurie
> > routinely indulge in this type of stunts for cheap publicity. Before
> > we know, another event will take over, like, a news report or a study
> > or a report of perceptions of people expressing their total confidence
> > in the technology of Identity card or even calls may be made to those
> > news organization who are concentrating too much time on stories like
> > this, to act responsibly and to report keeping the national security
> > issues of a country in mind.
> >
> > However, I wish to thank you again, though, for bringing this
> > particular view to the consideration of readers of this list.
> >
> > Warm regards
> >
> > Taha
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